The Mandarin vs Red Skull
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Dr Will Hatch
If there were no heroes or bigger threats like Doctor Doom or Magneto around to stop them, which of these tyrants would take over Marvel Earth the fastest?
Sin I AM
Skrull...mandarin isn't a planetary threat imo
carver9
Before I get refuted, I would like to post these (thanks for the scans Rage).
http://s8.postimg.org/529rhgkq9/Iron_Man_v5_018_019.jpghttp://s8.postimg.org/v0ddnhq7l/Iron_Man_v5_018_020.jpg
http://s24.postimg.org/af73tmaup/Iron_Man_v5_020_003.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/q1yd6zomp/Iron_Man_v5_020_004.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/wtos9udm9/Iron_Man_v5_020_005.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/p282ba9gx/Iron_Man_v5_020_006.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/myxn3m9o1/Iron_Man_v5_020_007.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/f7gx525ip/Iron_Man_v5_020_008.jpg
carver9
All of this was done with ONE RING. Mandarin is most def Herald level. Probably high Herald.
http://s24.postimg.org/3jrgo95rl/Iron_Man_v5_020_009.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/xppv31coh/Iron_Man_v5_020_010.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/mrelkuo35/Iron_Man_v5_020_012.jpg
http://s28.postimg.org/wd1l1ld4p/Iron_Man_v5_020_017.jpghttp://s28.postimg.org/kp7j71nzt/Iron_Man_v5_020_018.jpghttp://s28.postimg.org/7z3atyg1l/Iron_Man_v5_020_019.jpg
Kazenji
Thing is The Mandarin is dead.
Bentley
Carver, would you please stop throwing around the words high heralds so easily?
Red Skull mindrapes. He's overall more dangerous than Mandarin, tough infinitely weaker on the get to go.
Sin I AM
Lol @ carver she's high meta at best and nothing in those scans suggest otherwise. High herald ha!
DarkSaint85
Yeah...Skull stomps this. Nothing in those scans suggest high herald, or planetary level power. At best, what we saw in those rings is Nova level. And not Worldmind Nova Prime level, but 80's Nova level.
pym-ftw
Skull wins the thread
VanMae
The Mandarin would conquer the world faster. He's smarter, has better tech, has his own mini-nation, just operates on another level.
Bentley
Originally posted by VanMae
The Mandarin would conquer the world faster. He's smarter, has better tech, has his own mini-nation, just operates on another level.
By most logical means Mandarin should be able to conquer the world more easily, comics prove otherwise though. Johan is like a Cosmic Cube magnet.
Kazenji
Lol at his own mini nation
he doesn't anymore, Stark is fixing the place up.
Igniz
Originally posted by Kazenji
Thing is The Mandarin is dead.
We don't know for sure if he's permanently dead.There were 2 scenarios were Mandarin was portrayed dead.In the Avengers Annual were he was exposed to the vacuum of space.But he was portrayed alive in later issues.And one were he died at Yellow Claw's hands, but came back when Yellow Claw's minion tried to use his rings.So who knows when will Mandarin come back.
Mshinu
Mandy. Skull is a nazi and nazis always fail.
Igniz
Originally posted by Mshinu
Mandy. Skull is a nazi and nazis always fail.
He can't even handle a simpleton with a shield(From Captain America:The First Avenger)
Kazenji
Originally posted by Igniz
We don't know for sure if he's permanently dead.There were 2 scenarios were Mandarin was portrayed dead.In the Avengers Annual were he was exposed to the vacuum of space.But he was portrayed alive in later issues.And one were he died at Yellow Claw's hands, but came back when Yellow Claw's minion tried to use his rings.So who knows when will Mandarin come back.
Well supposedly he died in Matt Fractions run from what i've read.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Skrull...mandarin isn't a planetary threat imo
Nice typo here
Yes, Skull usually is a bigger threat because of stuff like stealing the Cosmic Cube.
VanMae
That's a bit like saying Joker will win because he will con Mxyptlk into giving him omnipotence again.
On an average day, the Mandarin has every advantage on Skull, better tech, more resources, just on another level entirely.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by VanMae
That's a bit like saying Joker will win because he will con Mxyptlk into giving him omnipotence again.
On an average day, the Mandarin has every advantage on Skull, better tech, more resources, just on another level entirely.
Xavier level telepathy?
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Xavier level telepathy?
Clone.
Originally posted by VanMae
That's a bit like saying Joker will win because he will con Mxyptlk into giving him omnipotence again.
On an average day, the Mandarin has every advantage on Skull, better tech, more resources, just on another level entirely.
Let me rephrase it, then. RS is more successful as a villain and more popular.
I do like Mandy more, but Marvel loves to shit on him.
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