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This is Monarch when he took on all of the hero's in the Arena vs Depowered Tyrant.

Who comes out on top?

Monarch

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Monarch Based on ?

Hm. Arenarch only had one feat that might be perceived as 'poor', and that was when the GL of Earth-32 unlocked all the safeties on his ring--forcing it to go critical mass. When he then unleashed the totality of his ring's power on Arenarch, it opened up the faceplate of his armor, which made him uncontrollably release some of his energy:
http://imgur.com/IRJr5yO
http://imgur.com/MFUD3PZ
http://imgur.com/AAcQKpv
http://imgur.com/JGrvaiV
But as you can see, it was ultimately little more than a page-long inconvenience.

However, I found that showing somewhat inconsistent, given that later in the series, Arenarch willingly opened up his armor's faceplate(for several pages) for the very purpose of releasing controlled energy attacks whilst fighting the alternate Captain Atoms:
http://imgur.com/rTxFvur
http://imgur.com/IdsEniT
http://imgur.com/aYKLtHi
http://imgur.com/6fV2wYu
http://imgur.com/thKsAPO
http://imgur.com/HxwnQJO
http://imgur.com/eNkCz1r

He also removed his entire helmet in a completely unrelated comic without incident(Ion: GotU #10):
http://imgur.com/r1NKliM
http://imgur.com/1IhdxoD


So yeah...

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Aside from that, however, he was portrayed as nigh-unbeatable...

Effortlessly slapping away multiple Supermen--including one of the most evolved versions of Supes we've ever seen on panel(ie. Earth-16 Chris Kent):
http://imgur.com/ZEm0YY1

http://imgur.com/7et4b1W
http://imgur.com/dPUFziR
http://imgur.com/Obzt1CC

Swatting away a group consisting of versions of Superman, CA, WW, Flash, etc.:
http://imgur.com/D54wN7n
http://imgur.com/24MAwvn

Stomping multiple Green Lanterns:
http://imgur.com/SvnfHKG
http://imgur.com/ZTNXawy
http://imgur.com/IRJr5yO
http://imgur.com/MFUD3PZ

Stomping multiple Supermen+multiple Wonder Women:
http://imgur.com/wJ140VP
http://imgur.com/RWvkN21

Gesturely releasing continent-busting attacks... Just to press the intimidation factor:
http://imgur.com/atQAMpO
http://imgur.com/ce1EUkX

Owning every version of Captain Atom in the multiverse simultaneously:
http://imgur.com/RY29bZ2
http://imgur.com/dNSJV5w

http://imgur.com/TVxMUMe
http://imgur.com/5LeznLl
http://imgur.com/zzqOZpV
http://imgur.com/rTxFvur
http://imgur.com/IdsEniT
http://imgur.com/aYKLtHi
http://imgur.com/6fV2wYu
http://imgur.com/thKsAPO
http://imgur.com/HxwnQJO
http://imgur.com/eNkCz1r
http://imgur.com/rMev10s
http://imgur.com/bHzL9Jm


And just for a point of reference, the characters Arenarch so effortlessly owned were a collection of "the most powerful heroes and villains from throughout the multiverse.":
http://i.imgur.com/cAnP7Ca.jpg
ie. they weren't intended to be weak fodder(the ease in which Arenarch slew them notwithstanding.) They were intended to be the best of the best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Comics and common sense.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Comics and common sense. Far less than Tyrant breached Monarch's armor.

Evidence supports me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Far less than Tyrant breached Monarch's armor.

Evidence supports me.



I'm not really convinced either way so far, but I do want to point out that evidence involves presenting it, not just appealing to it. So far Galan's the only one that has presented evidence, or even a means of victory based on feats (referring to common feats would count, of course...no need to show every single scan)

Which isn't to say that Monarch wins. Just that you're not doing much that's convincing in rebuttal.

srug

Tyrant.

Originally posted by Digi
I'm not really convinced either way so far, but I do want to point out that evidence involves presenting it, not just appealing to it. So far Galan's the only one that has presented evidence, or even a means of victory based on feats (referring to common feats would count, of course...no need to show every single scan)

Which isn't to say that Monarch wins. Just that you're not doing much that's convincing in rebuttal.

srug I have posted the scans many times prior but don't have access to them from my iPad. That is why I don't post as many scans as I used to.


I'd definitely battlezone this against Rao if he ever mustered up the courage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have posted the scans many times prior but don't have access to them from my iPad. That is why I don't post as many scans as I used to.


I'd definitely battlezone this against Rao if he ever mustered up the courage.

lol, fair enough. Like I said, posting each scan isn't necessary. Text references only would suffice. But to the many who are seeing this particular battle for the first time, "evidence supports me" won't be terribly convincing.

I think this is a close match. Both have multiple feats of wrecking top tier heralds by the handful. Monarch seems to have the more exploitable weakness with his suit, but I also think his collective body of feats is more impressive from a raw power standpoint.

Originally posted by Digi
lol, fair enough. Like I said, posting each scan isn't necessary. Text references only would suffice. But to the many who are seeing this particular battle for the first time, "evidence supports me" won't be terribly convincing.

I think this is a close match. Both have multiple feats of wrecking top tier heralds by the handful. Monarch seems to have the more exploitable weakness with his suit, but I also think his collective body of feats is more impressive from a raw power standpoint. A green lantern breached his armor which is true. Superboy Prime at his base levels defeated him.

Tyrant took on a well fed Galactus and was winning. I don't see this as even being close.

It strikes me as odd that none of Arenarch's other durability feats are being considered... That only a single 'low' showing is being cherry-picked over everything else. One thing is for sure: the 'critical mass' ring attack must have been insanely powerful, given the plethora of other attacks from very powerful beings Arenarch tanked w/o so much as a scratch to show for it.

It also strikes me as odd that the inconsistency of said 'low' showing is being overlooked. Arenarch purposefully removed his faceplate later on in the story, as well as in an entirely different series. Without incident.


But hey, whatever it takes to give Tyrant the win, I guess.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A weakened Tyrant took on a well fed Galactus and was winning. I don't see this as even being close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A green lantern breached his armor which is true. Superboy Prime at his base levels defeated him.

Tyrant took on a well fed Galactus and was winning. I don't see this as even being close.

Wasn't that pre-DP? Ah, wait, I remember what you're referring to. Yeah, that's the best point in his favor, no doubt. I'm not sure it makes this definitive, though I agree that no single feat of Monarch's matches it...but that's the type of specific reference that is needed to make the case.

Originally posted by Digi
Wasn't that pre-DP? Ah, wait, I remember what you're referring to. Yeah, that's the best point in his favor, no doubt. I'm not sure it makes this definitive, though I agree that no single feat of Monarch's matches it...but that's the type of specific reference that is needed to make the case. His powers increased after that not the durability of his suit which was still ripped wide open by prime. Above herald level power breaches it considering herald level power has done so as well.

Originally posted by Digi
Wasn't that pre-DP? Ah, wait, I remember what you're referring to. Yeah, that's the best point in his favor, no doubt. I'm not sure it makes this definitive, though I agree that no single feat of Monarch's matches it...but that's the type of specific reference that is needed to make the case.
Notice Galactus was VERY well FED :
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/579/silversurferv3106p08.th.jpg
While "DP" Tyrant was WEAKENED :
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/7974/silversurferv3106p10.th.jpg
That's what makes the showing even more impressive despite the sh|t writing.

I've seen the respect thread, but thanks. It just took me a minute to remember the feat. His initial, full-size clash with Big G and subsequent battle with the heralds is much more well-known.

lol did quan just challenge galan to a bz? i find that pretty hilarious for a variety of reasons....

Originally posted by zopzop


That settles it, you're Quanchi level!

Originally posted by leonidas
lol did quan just challenge galan to a bz? i find that pretty hilarious for a variety of reasons....

Nah it was Rao.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol did quan just challenge galan to a bz? i find that pretty hilarious for a variety of reasons.... It was for Rao. Not surprised you're lost.

Monarch,

Originally posted by Golgo13
Monarch, Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
A green lantern breached his armor which is true. Superboy Prime at his base levels defeated him.

Tyrant took on a well fed Galactus and was winning. I don't see this as even being close. both lies

Glad so see you back in form

Originally posted by Gecko4lif
both lies

Glad so see you back in form Both are undeniable truths. Asskicking is kinda my thing, sugar plumb.

Originally posted by Bentley
That settles it, you're Quanchi level!
You're lucky I <3 France, otherwise...............whip

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am willing to get this debate moded and who ever loses leaves KMC banned in shame forever with a note in the closed profile that says "banned for being a b1tch and a troll", are you game?

Originally posted by quanchi112


I'd definitely battlezone this against Rao if he ever mustered up the courage.

I find your "challenge" hillarious as you punk out last time, not even acknowledging my challenge, so don't try to act like a though guy, when we know you are a sissy.

Mre thinks you are just butt hurt from our last encounter.

It's on like Donkey Kong.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I find your "challenge" hillarious as you punk out last time, not even acknowledging my challenge, so don't try to act like a though guy, when we know you are a sissy.

Mre thinks you are just butt hurt from our last encounter. You never issued a challenge I was interested in and have always backed down to me.

You barely even post on here.


I will back Tyrant against Monarch in a battlezone fashion. Up for it ?

Monarch would have defeated De-powered Tyrant's foes as the very first of a 100 round gauntlet of high herald battles with sparse breaks to have his plot furthered. He had enough energy to change a universal landscape even if it was a chain reaction... Monarch wins 7/10 against dp Tyrant.

Quan amuses the phuck outta me...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Quan amuses the phuck outta me... Quit coming onto me while I am in battle.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit coming onto me while I am in battle.

Henceforth I will be the Jerry McGuire to your Rod Tidwell!! The ambassador of Quan approaches! !

Originally posted by quanchi112
You never issued a challenge I was interested in and have always backed down to me.

You barely even post on here.


I will back Tyrant against Monarch in a battlezone fashion. Up for it ?

You punk out so bad last time that you feel the need to redeem yourself?

This is AWESOME!!! I own your soul

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You punk out so bad last time that you feel the need to redeem yourself?

This is AWESOME!!! I own your soul So you're backing down again. You'll never do one. Just go back into the shadows where you belong.

Tyrant wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're backing down again. You'll never do one. Just go back into the shadows where you belong.

Tyrant wins.

Keep trying to save face Quani You punk out.

Monarch wins

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Keep trying to save face Quani You punk out.

Monarch wins The challenge is still up.

Do you accept or back down ?

Nah, prime power crushes him which is far lower than Tyrant.

Monarch wins. If we're using a GL opening up Monarch's face plate as a low showing, both Ganeymede and Terrax made Tyrant cry out in pain with one attack and he was KILLED in a solar system busting attack by ultimate nullifier. The funny thing is that Morg was later shown as completely whole while dead in Annihilation but Tyrant was totally annihilated. What a loser.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Monarch wins. If we're using a GL opening up Monarch's face plate as a low showing, both Ganeymede and Terrax made Tyrant cry out in pain with one attack and he was KILLED in a solar system busting attack by ultimate nullifier. The funny thing is that Morg was later shown as completely whole while dead in Annihilation but Tyrant was totally annihilated. What a loser. That is the kind of power which breached his armor. Prime power defeated him. That is less than Tyrants power.

Un doesn't matter as compared to collateral damage but it does nullify what it hits. That's the point.



Tyrant can withstand Prime but Monarch can't withstand the un.



Tyrant never lost in a fair fight while depowered unlike Monarch who went down to Prime.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Monarch wins. If we're using a GL opening up Monarch's face plate as a low showing, both Ganeymede and Terrax made Tyrant cry out in pain with one attack
And a Batkick made Spectre cry out in pain and he even drew blood.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2107814-1395955-batkick_super.jpg
But we saw both attacks were ultimately meaningless.


Wrong.

Tyrant's body was decimated from UN strikes when Morg was wielding the Nullifier. Then the Nullifier started overloading and Morg cut off his arm and made a run for it.

The Nullifier exploded and everyone in the surrounding area was presumed dead. It was later revealed that Galactus teleported himself and his heralds to safety in another dimension right before the Nullifer went off, where he stayed to heal up after his fight with Tyrant.

EDIT -
Also the reason the Nullifier explosion was "only" solar system wide was because Galactus locked down his worldship to contain the blast lest it wreck havoc on the rest of the universe.

Originally posted by zopzop

And a Batkick made Spectre cry out in pain and he even drew blood.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/103530/2107814-1395955-batkick_super.jpg
But we saw both attacks were ultimately meaningless.


Wrong.

Tyrant's body was decimated from UN strikes when Morg was wielding the Nullifier. Then the Nullifier started overloading and Morg cut off his arm and made a run for it.

The Nullifier exploded and everyone in the surrounding area was presumed dead. It was later revealed that Galactus teleported himself and his heralds to safety in another dimension right before the Nullifer went off, where he stayed to heal up after his fight with Tyrant.

EDIT -
Also the reason the Nullifier explosion was "only" solar system wide was because Galactus locked down his worldship to contain the blast lest it wreck havoc on the rest of the universe.
Spectre later clarified it was due to him lowering his defenses to let Batman vent some frustrations. I don't know what that's supposed to mean, a normal human has split Spectre's head open with a bat. He's made out of ectoplasma, its not the most durable thing in the world and its entirely meaningless to harm the body of spectre.

So? The robot of Tyrant made Morg stay with the UN and Tyrant was still killed by a solar system busting blast. How did Morg end up dead in Annihilation BTW?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre later clarified it was due to him lowering his defenses to let Batman vent some frustrations. I don't know what that's supposed to mean, a normal human has split Spectre's head open with a bat. He's made out of ectoplasma, its not the most durable thing in the world and its entirely meaningless to harm the body of spectre.
The point is, stupid sh|t happens in comics all the time. Like Spider-man owning Firelord or Hulk.


Wrong. Morg cut off his hand/arm and made a run for it right before the blast went off. And it was only because of Galactus' quick thinking that the nullification blast was contained to "only" a solar system.

The reason why Tyrant couldn't flee like Galactus is because Morg wrecked his body with the Nullifier. He was dissolved down to just a piece of his upper body.

Morg ended up dead in Annihilation because Annihilus' scientists killed him while trying to dissect him to discover the secret of the Power Cosmic (or something like that).

Originally posted by zopzop

The point is, stupid sh|t happens in comics all the time. Like Spider-man owning Firelord or Hulk.


Wrong. Morg cut off his hand/arm and made a run for it right before the blast went off. And it was only because of Galactus' quick thinking that the nullification blast was contained to "only" a solar system.

The reason why Tyrant couldn't flee like Galactus is because Morg wrecked his body with the Nullifier. He was dissolved down to just a piece of his upper body.

Morg ended up dead in Annihilation because Annihilus' scientists killed him while trying to dissect him to discover the secret of the Power Cosmic (or something like that).
You can throw all the stuff you know about lower tier heroes beating a herald or what not but it wouldn't mean shit. Terrax or Ganeymede didn't knock out Tyrant, they made him feel pain which characters do all the time in comics to upper tier characters. Quit bitching.

It was just a force blast which killed Tyrant BTW. Surfer survived its concussive force with just being knocked out.

http://imgur.com/WChSvIz
http://imgur.com/2A4P4Q8
http://imgur.com/qfumN8j
http://imgur.com/ELbFYV0

Tyrant was killed by a solar system level blast. Undeniable Fact.

And Annihilus' scientist found Morg inside a tomb already dead. They couldn't extract PC from his body because of that.

Since when did getting hit by the UN in any shape, form, or fashion become a low showing? Too much emphasis is placed on what would happen if Tyrant forcibly breaches the armor and I don't see why because that =s a automatic loss for Monarch anyway.

Too bad Monarch doesn't have razor sharp or piercing type weapons like Ganymede or Terrax. As it stands, blunt force and energy projection that was barely fazing a trans level being with a fading amp isn't going to cut it....no pun intended.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Since when did getting hit by the UN in any shape, form, or fashion become a low showing? Too much emphasis is placed on what would happen if Tyrant forcibly breaches the armor and I don't see why because that =s a automatic loss for Monarch anyway.

Too bad Monarch doesn't have razor sharp or piercing type weapons like Ganymede or Terrax. As it stands, blunt force and energy projection that was barely fazing a trans level being with a fading amp isn't going to cut it....no pun intended.
Because the blast hit surfer too and he wasn't atomized? Morg wasn't atomized either as shown later in Annihilation? Only Tyrant was totally atomized.


Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the blast hit surfer too and he wasn't atomized? Morg wasn't atomized either as shown later in Annihilation? Only Tyrant was totally atomized.


Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon. Tyrant was blasted by the un. You make no sense whatsoever. By your goofy logic their durability is greater than tyrants. Makes no sense. Prime beat him so he was an idiot.

Once the armor is breached he loses. A monitor easily tanked the attack as did his shields.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because the blast hit surfer too and he wasn't atomized? Morg wasn't atomized either as shown later in Annihilation? Only Tyrant was totally atomized.


Also Tyrant was killed by a solar system level attack. IF Tyrant can breach Monarch's armor he would score a draw. Funny thing is, Monarch was literally toying with a trans level character in SMP. Tyrant fought with a team consisting of Terrax, Jack of Hearts, Ganeymede and Legacy for pages and had to attack several times t just down Terrax and Jack Of Hearts. Monarch would laugh at that team.

Also crylaugh @ piercing weapons. Ganeymede's staff is now a piercing weapon.

So WTH are you saying? That Surfer or Morg can tank UN energies if directly hit?
Not that Monarch toying with Prime shit again. A trans with a amp knows he faces certain death against Tyrant. A trans with no amps is proven to be a Monarch buster. The best Monarch can hope for is for Tyrant to breach so he can at least earn a stalemate.

Whatever Ganymede's staff is....Monarch is phucked because he ain't got it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can throw all the stuff you know about lower tier heroes beating a herald or what not but it wouldn't mean shit. Terrax or Ganeymede didn't knock out Tyrant, they made him feel pain which characters do all the time in comics to upper tier characters. Quit bitching.

It was just a force blast which killed Tyrant BTW. Surfer survived its concussive force with just being knocked out.

http://imgur.com/WChSvIz
http://imgur.com/2A4P4Q8
http://imgur.com/qfumN8j
http://imgur.com/ELbFYV0

Tyrant was killed by a solar system level blast. Undeniable Fact.

And Annihilus' scientist found Morg inside a tomb already dead. They couldn't extract PC from his body because of that.
What are you talking about?

Tyrant's body was destroyed by the Nullifier's blasts prior to the Nullifier overloading. That's why he couldn't tp himself to safety like Galactus did with his heralds.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/tyrantgalactus6.jpg

Surfer wasn't anywhere near the nullification aura yet he was still knocked for a loop by the concussive force from the aftermath of the blast. It's not like he survived nullification.

And I could have sworn Annihilus' forced capture Morg and he died during experimentation. Can anyone confirm this?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Spectre later clarified it was due to him lowering his defenses to let Batman vent some frustrations. I don't know what that's supposed to mean, a normal human has split Spectre's head open with a bat. he lied to save face. the blood and the scream of pain is all i need to see

Originally posted by Sundipped
So WTH are you saying? That Surfer or Morg can tank UN energies if directly hit?
Not that Monarch toying with Prime shit again. A trans with a amp knows he faces certain death against Tyrant. A trans with no amps is proven to be a Monarch buster. The best Monarch can hope for is for Tyrant to breach so he can at least earn a stalemate.

Whatever Ganymede's staff is....Monarch is phucked because he ain't got it.
Apparently yes. Tyrant sucks that much.

Why not? Monarch wasn't paying much attention to SMP, he beat the guardian amp out of him while merely toying with him. Thanos with some portion of morg's power=SBP with Guardian amp? Monarch can't beat Tyrant because he doesn't have Ganeymede's useless staff which surfer was able to endure without much trouble or Terrax's axe? Hahaha. You done clowning yet?Originally posted by zopzop
What are you talking about?

Tyrant's body was destroyed by the Nullifier's blasts prior to the Nullifier overloading. That's why he couldn't tp himself to safety like Galactus did with his heralds.
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/tyrantgalactus6.jpg

Surfer wasn't anywhere near the nullification aura yet he was still knocked for a loop by the concussive force from the aftermath of the blast. It's not like he survived nullification.

And I could have sworn Annihilus' forced capture Morg and he died during experimentation. Can anyone confirm this?
How the hell getting your legs atomized stops someone from teleporting?

Now you're flat out lying.

http://i.imgur.com/2A4P4Q8.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/qfumN8j.jpg

Surfer wasn't at ground zero but he was hit by the very same energy blast which killed Tyrant albeit buffeted.

Originally posted by Galan007
It strikes me as odd that none of Arenarch's other durability feats are being considered... That only a single 'low' showing is being cherry-picked over everything else. One thing is for sure: the 'critical mass' ring attack must have been insanely powerful, given the plethora of other attacks from very powerful beings Arenarch tanked w/o so much as a scratch to show for it.

It also strikes me as odd that the inconsistency of said 'low' showing is being overlooked. Arenarch purposefully removed his faceplate later on in the story, as well as in an entirely different series. Without incident.


But hey, whatever it takes to give Tyrant the win, I guess. You realize cherry picking and lowballing are Quan's mo, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend

How the hell getting your legs atomized stops someone from teleporting?
It wasn't just "his legs" the nullifier blasts from Morg left only the extreme upper portion of his body. He was wrecked and bleeding energy. The fact that Tyrant even survived a direct hit from the nullifier and didn't outright die is impressive as hell.


No he wasn't. He was hit by the concussive force of the aftermath of the nullification of Galactus' world ship.

I'm starting to realize that was one poorly written arc mmm

Lets see this

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I am willing to get this debate moded and who ever loses leaves KMC banned in shame forever with a note in the closed profile that says "banned for being a b1tch and a troll", are you game?

Your response was:

Originally posted by quanchi112
The end of yours is a rant which has nothing to do with the debate itself.



You punk out

http://cdn.niketalk.com/0/04/500x1000px-LL-04d1e204_gdyblaugh.gif

Keep trying to get my attention, is amusing how much I consume you.

Originally posted by zopzop

It wasn't just "his legs" the nullifier blasts from Morg left only the extreme upper portion of his body. He was wrecked and bleeding energy. The fact that Tyrant even survived a direct hit from the nullifier and didn't outright die is impressive as hell.


No he wasn't. He was hit by the concussive force of the aftermath of the nullification of Galactus' world ship.
And the nullification energy was only directed at his legs. If it was directed at his whole body, he would've died like he did at the end.

Morg survived too and he was at the ground zero.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And the nullification energy was only directed at his legs. If it was directed at his whole body, he would've died like he did at the end.
Nope, he was hit at LEAST twice. Here's Morg nullifying his arm(s) :
http://s16.postimg.org/hwnamijo1/arms_nullified.jpg


Didn't he cut off his arm, punch a hole in Galactus's ship, and make a run for it?

Originally posted by zopzop

Nope, he was hit at LEAST twice. Here's Morg nullifying his arm(s) :
http://s16.postimg.org/hwnamijo1/arms_nullified.jpg


Didn't he cut off his arm, punch a hole in Galactus's ship, and make a run for it?
And that excuses his ability to teleport away? Coming to think, did Tyrant showed anything other than strength, blasts and bio-energy absorption?

It all happened at once, Morg tried to run but he was hit by the blast.

http://i.imgur.com/WChSvIz.jpg

Is Abhi doing his stupid routine again... How the **** is getting hit with a UN blast and NOT dying a low feat? This is bordering on stupid.. even for Abhi. Monarch would've been WTF pwned and killed by the same blast. Tyrant even survived a UN blast and now that is used to say he has weak durability LMAO... Damn the stupidity is strong in this thread.

Tyrant wins.. and it wouldn't be overall difficult.

Hey buddy, first tell us how DOS Doomsday and H/P Doomsday are about same in strength, these kind of arguments are above your paygrade.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=245390.0

As it is, I'm not going to waste my time with you.

Ohh right people saying HP is a totally different beast.. means he is... My point wasn't whether HP or DOS Doomsday were the same strength.. my point is... How is Doomsday breaking supermans arm or him doing anything to superman overly impressive? Do you know how many times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb... Tossed around.. KO'd.. One shot.. punked... It's happened more times than I can count... So why does HP get so much credit for doing something many others have done? That is the point... I asked you to prove HP is significantly stronger than DOS Doomsday.. You never backed up your case.

Ya know.. I think I'm going to compile a list of comments directed at your piss poor reading comprehension of scans and overall stupidity you exhibit and how it's commented on ALL the time. I know it will take me awhile to compile them.. but damn it's gonna be funny eh Abhi?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ohh right people saying HP is a totally different beast.. means he is... My point wasn't whether HP or DOS Doomsday were the same strength.. my point is... How is Doomsday breaking supermans arm or him doing anything to superman overly impressive? Do you know how many times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb... Tossed around.. KO'd.. One shot.. punked... It's happened more times than I can count... So why does HP get so much credit for doing something many others have done? That is the point... I asked you to prove HP is significantly stronger than DOS Doomsday.. You never backed up your case.

Ya know.. I think I'm going to compile a list of comments directed at your piss poor reading comprehension of scans and overall stupidity you exhibit and how it's commented on ALL the time. I know it will take me awhile to compile them.. but damn it's gonna be funny eh Abhi?


You could repeat "FEEB, FEEB" all your life and it wouldn't mean anything.

Originally posted by abhilegend
SBP destroyed Earth 15 universe too.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b3/8b/8e/b38b8e769eff1bf9a836a8923f9333ad.jpg

Can Tyrant destroy a universe?

mmm

Originally posted by Sundipped
Since when did getting hit by the UN in any shape, form, or fashion become a low showing? Too much emphasis is placed on what would happen if Tyrant forcibly breaches the armor and I don't see why because that =s a automatic loss for Monarch anyway.

Too bad Monarch doesn't have razor sharp or piercing type weapons like Ganymede or Terrax. As it stands, blunt force and energy projection that was barely fazing a trans level being with a fading amp isn't going to cut it....no pun intended.

Ganymede's weapon was specifically stated to have been made with properties that could hurt Tyrant. All off the Spinsters possessed this weapon. Just wanted to put that out there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can Tyrant destroy a universe?

mmm

Hulk destroyed a Universe and Tyrant would still stomp him.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk destroyed a Universe and Tyrant would still stomp him.
Where did Hulk destroy anything but a pocket universe of nightcrawler?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did Hulk destroy anything but a pocket universe of nightcrawler?

A Universe and we have no clue of the size. So again, I'm not understanding the meaning of your post.

Tyrant wins.

Is amazing how things have changed.

But I still think Monarch wins

Originally posted by carver9
A Universe and we have no clue of the size. So again, I'm not understanding the meaning of your post.
It's a full on universe with galaxies and all that.

Don't be dumb.

Is carver going crazy again?

Originally posted by Galan007
Hm. Arenarch only had one feat that might be perceived as 'poor', and that was when the GL of Earth-32 unlocked all the safeties on his ring--forcing it to go critical mass. When he then unleashed the totality of his ring's power on Arenarch, it opened up the faceplate of his armor, which made him uncontrollably release some of his energy:
http://imgur.com/IRJr5yO
http://imgur.com/MFUD3PZ
http://imgur.com/AAcQKpv
http://imgur.com/JGrvaiV
But as you can see, it was ultimately little more than a page-long inconvenience.

However, I found that showing somewhat inconsistent, given that later in the series, Arenarch willingly opened up his armor's faceplate(for several pages) for the very purpose of releasing controlled energy attacks whilst fighting the alternate Captain Atoms:
http://imgur.com/rTxFvur
http://imgur.com/IdsEniT
http://imgur.com/aYKLtHi
http://imgur.com/6fV2wYu
http://imgur.com/thKsAPO
http://imgur.com/HxwnQJO
http://imgur.com/eNkCz1r

He also removed his entire helmet in a completely unrelated comic without incident(Ion: GotU #10):
http://imgur.com/r1NKliM
http://imgur.com/1IhdxoD


So yeah...

_______


Aside from that, however, he was portrayed as nigh-unbeatable...

Effortlessly slapping away multiple Supermen--including one of the most evolved versions of Supes we've ever seen on panel(ie. Earth-16 Chris Kent):
http://imgur.com/ZEm0YY1

http://imgur.com/7et4b1W
http://imgur.com/dPUFziR
http://imgur.com/Obzt1CC

Swatting away a group consisting of versions of Superman, CA, WW, Flash, etc.:
http://imgur.com/D54wN7n
http://imgur.com/24MAwvn

Stomping multiple Green Lanterns:
http://imgur.com/SvnfHKG
http://imgur.com/ZTNXawy
http://imgur.com/IRJr5yO
http://imgur.com/MFUD3PZ

Stomping multiple Supermen+multiple Wonder Women:
http://imgur.com/wJ140VP
http://imgur.com/RWvkN21

Gesturely releasing continent-busting attacks... Just to press the intimidation factor:
http://imgur.com/atQAMpO
http://imgur.com/ce1EUkX

Owning every version of Captain Atom in the multiverse simultaneously:
http://imgur.com/RY29bZ2
http://imgur.com/dNSJV5w

http://imgur.com/TVxMUMe
http://imgur.com/5LeznLl
http://imgur.com/zzqOZpV
http://imgur.com/rTxFvur
http://imgur.com/IdsEniT
http://imgur.com/aYKLtHi
http://imgur.com/6fV2wYu
http://imgur.com/thKsAPO
http://imgur.com/HxwnQJO
http://imgur.com/eNkCz1r
http://imgur.com/rMev10s
http://imgur.com/bHzL9Jm


And just for a point of reference, the characters Arenarch so effortlessly owned were a collection of "the most powerful heroes and villains from throughout the multiverse.":
http://i.imgur.com/cAnP7Ca.jpg
ie. they weren't intended to be weak fodder(the ease in which Arenarch slew them notwithstanding.) They were intended to be the best of the best.

2014 galan was so optimistic and not as jaded as 2017 galan

You know, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that... I'm really just a piece of shit these days.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's a full on universe with galaxies and all that.

Don't be dumb.

Scans showing these Galaxies.

Holy shit. facepalm

Originally posted by Galan007
You know, I was thinking the exact same thing when I read that... I'm really just a piece of shit these days.

As s Canadian I cannot officially be rude but I'm slowly nodding my head right now

Is the Carvatar appearing?

Scans?

Do you have scans of Carvatar appearing?

Originally posted by carver9
Scans showing these Galaxies.
What the ****?

We had a previous discussions about Universes and i want you to stay consistent please. This is why I am asking you these questions.

Originally posted by carver9
We had a previous discussions about Universes and i want you to stay consistent please. This is why I am asking you these questions.
facepalm

Lol at Carver wanting to stay consistent.

Originally posted by carver9
This is why I am asking you these questions.

IMxWLuOFyZM

Start watching from 2:00.

Originally posted by -K-M-
As s Canadian I cannot officially be rude but I'm slowly nodding my head right now

So, how's Trudeau treating you guys?