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Midnighter

vs.

The Gorgon

Match Stipulations:
Gorgon is not allowed to use his gaze attack.
Gorgon has a normal Katana (no magic weapons).
Midnighter has standard equipment.
No Prep. No BFR.
Morality/Personality is on.

Scenario 1: Gorgon vs. Wildstorm Midnighter
Scenario 2: Gorgon vs. DC/Current Midnighter

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Who takes it?

Right now, Gorgon in both, but Gorgon might end up jobbing to Shang Chi in a few weeks. I really hope he doesn't.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Right now, Gorgon in both, but Gorgon might end up jobbing to Shang Chi in a few weeks. I really hope he doesn't.

Do tell? In what comic will said fight occur?

The guy who got oneshotted by Daredevil vs Midnighter?

mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
The guy who got oneshotted by Daredevil vs Midnighter?

mmm

The guy who one shotted a speedster, and tanked being pummeled by a 30ft tall Stonewall.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The guy who got oneshotted by Daredevil vs Midnighter?

mmm

One and the same.

Gorgon appears to be trending towards Street Level.
He was stalemated by Iron Fist, then jump kick KOd by Daredevil.
And now he appears to be about two weeks away from finding a solid match at the hands of Shang Chi.

Midnighter's chances are looking pretty good to me...

Whose to say Daredevil loses against Midnighter though? mmm

Originally posted by KingD19
The guy who one shotted a speedster, and tanked being pummeled by a 30ft tall Stonewall.
So basically every street level character? Midnighter has also taken out speedsters and taken blows from Apollo who is a confirmed class 100.Originally posted by jaxthejester
One and the same.

Gorgon appears to be trending towards Street Level.
He was stalemated by Iron Fist, then jump kick KOd by Daredevil.
And now he appears to be about two weeks away from finding a solid match at the hands of Shang Chi.

Midnighter's chances are looking pretty good to me...


I want shang to push Gorgon's shit in. I like seeing stilt suffer.

uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
So basically every street level character? Midnighter has also taken out speedsters and taken blows from Apollo who is a confirmed class 100.


I know. I read that fight. He also took Apollo out by smacking him in the eardrums.

But to say Midnighter is street level in terms of durability is hilarious. He's been kicked for miles by The Doctor and shrugged it off, took hits from Apollo, etc, etc... And he's fast too. Far faster than an average street level portayal.

Indeed. Midnighter is eight kinds of badass.

Originally posted by KingD19
I know. I read that fight. He also took Apollo out by smacking him in the eardrums.

But to say Midnighter is street level in terms of durability is hilarious. He's been kicked for miles by The Doctor and shrugged it off, took hits from Apollo, etc, etc... And he's fast too. Far faster than an average street level portayal.
I'm confuzzled. Whose side are you on?

I'm not arguing for either side. I actually think it'd be a very good fight and going with the averages, highs, and lows that I know of, I'm not sure who'd win. I'm just pointing out that neither of these guys are street level. Anytime they appear so is because of bad writing usually.

At one point Midnighter spit a tooth at a man's skull and it exploded. I doubt any street could do that.

1. Midnighter.
2. Split, slight edge to Gorgon.

DCnU Mids has been impressive, overall. Finding Martian Manhunters weak spot and even surprising him and taking it to two Red Lanterns.

I haven't read any Nu-52 Mids. Is he that good?

Nah. MM wasn't discomforted by Mids strike, and he hasn't racked the feats preboot Mids has.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Nah. MM wasn't discomforted by Mids strike, and he hasn't racked the feats preboot Mids has.

Are you thinking of the same instance? MM had to shapeshift in order not to die.

it depends if nutella is involved in this fight IMO.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Are you thinking of the same instance? MM had to shapeshift in order not to die.

Yah, and its his basic powerset. He could have also gone intangible, tanked it, used his TK to stop the punch...

That's like saying Hulk can kill Juggernaut, except Juggy has to use his enchantment in order not to die.

Or Batman can kill Superman, except Superman has to use his durability to survive.

Or Harley with a gun can kill Wolverine, except etc etc you get it lol.

Good feat, but compared to what preboot did? Not THAT impressive.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50639/3515760-midnighter+vs+martian+manhunter.jpg
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It doesn't work that way. MM showed he was fast strong enough to kill a Martian with a single hit. J'onn surviving because he pulled a Toguro doesn't take away from that.

Originally posted by KingD19
It doesn't work that way. MM showed he was fast strong enough to kill a Martian with a single hit. J'onn surviving because he pulled a Toguro doesn't take away from that.

No, like I said, nice feat. I'm not taking away from it, but does it stack up against preboot?

It actually goes pretty well against his fight with Apollo. Using his strength/speed combined with his battle computer(whatever this new one has) and skills to use a superhuman blow to take down a Superman-esque opponent rather easily.

And even though MM survived, he did make J'onn bleed.

That's the thing. Does he have a battle PC?

I think this one's got muscle enhancements that basically let him do the same thing.

Assuming we are going off of the pre-boot (Wildstorm) version...

Any thoughts on how Gorgon's telepathy would stack up against Midnighter's battle chip?

I'm also curious how folks feel these two match up physically (speed, durability, strength).

The way it was described top me was that it was more like Madame Webs prescience,

Preboot yes, dunno about DCnU though.

Plus preboot was more willing to use doors in a battle.

When is Gorgon going to job to Shang?

Shang is doing well against him but what I am getting from it is, Gorgon is letting Shang hit him like that. Testing him. I could be wrong.

Originally posted by carver9
Shang is doing well against him but what I am getting from it is, Gorgon is letting Shang hit him like that. Testing him. I could be wrong.

Interesting idea, Carver.

Are you going off of the preview alone, or did someone let slip a few extra tid-bits about the upcoming issue?

I'm looking forward to their fight. I've always liked Shang Chi.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When is Gorgon going to job to Shang?

In a couple weeks. Though I'm hoping the fight isn't too one-sided (from either man).

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/RaphaelsArticles/news/?a=93393

Gorgon should lose the Shang....he's just that good

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Gorgon should lose the Shang....he's just that good

It will certainly boost Shang on the Street Level food chain if takes out Gorgon.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
Interesting idea, Carver.

Are you going off of the preview alone, or did someone let slip a few extra tid-bits about the upcoming issue?

I'm looking forward to their fight. I've always liked Shang Chi.

The preview. Gorgon isn't even fighting back. He's just standing there which is unlike Gorgon.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
It will certainly boost Shang on the Street Level food chain if takes out Gorgon.

Boost him past who? Hes already top tier

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Boost him past who? Hes already top tier

I'm not arguing.

But the majority of posts (that I've seen) trend towards the notion that characters like Wolverine are a step above Shang.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The guy who got oneshotted by Daredevil vs Midnighter?

mmm

Bendis bullshit.

I prefer this one;

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4658/gorgonvswolverine1.th.jpghttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4959/gorgonvswolverine2.th.jpg

Daredevil oneshotted wolverine too.

mhmm

He was amped, he had a dumbbell.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
I'm not arguing.

But the majority of posts (that I've seen) trend towards the notion that characters like Wolverine are a step above Shang.

Only due to powers

But isn't Shang as high as he is due to powers?(Chi Amping)

Originally posted by KingD19
But isn't Shang as high as he is due to powers?(Chi Amping)

No even without chi amping he's high street

Originally posted by jaxthejester
I'm not arguing.

But the majority of posts (that I've seen) trend towards the notion that characters like Wolverine are a step above Shang. That's because the majority of posts are stupid.

Originally posted by ODG
That's because the majority of posts are stupid.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
He was amped, he had a dumbbell.
Throat chop bro.

mhm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Throat chop bro.

mhm

300 lbs of adamantium @ 100 mph> flying kick> throat chop> WWH's punches?

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
300 lbs of adamantium @ 100 mph> flying kick> throat chop> WWH's punches?


Hulk is a pussy.

Damn straight.

Haters be hate'n.

Originally posted by carver9
Shang is doing well against him but what I am getting from it is, Gorgon is letting Shang hit him like that. Testing him. I could be wrong.


I think you're right. It isn't a Hulk comic afterall.