(Hellsing) Alucard Vs Cain ( Vampire the Masquerade)

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EmptyHearted
After learning small amount of Cain.

Can he beat Alucard from Hellsing.


This Alucard without schrodinger powers.

EmptyHearted
Keep this in mind.

Tell how would somebody wins.

Don't just say alucard or Cain wins.

Nephthys
Without Shrodingers power Alucard has no chance.

NemeBro
With Schrodinger's power Alucard has no chance, lol.

Alucard at his best couldn't fight an Antediluvian, much less Caine.

Caine is pretty much all-powerful. Malkav, the Malkavian Antediluvian, is so powerful that he or she manages to exist as an incorporeal presence called the Madness Network, which is basically a massive psychic network that connects and powers the Dementia abilities of all Malkavian vampires.

Stealth Moose
The rulebook basically says this for fighting Caine:

You lose.

I mean, Antediluvians, two generations removed from Caine, have level 10 disciplines that are basically described as 'plot devices'. The Ravnos one soaked a spirit nuke, kuei-jin, and the power of the sun redirected by orbital mirrors, IIRC, and Caine scares him.

EmptyHearted
Originally posted by NemeBro
With Schrodinger's power Alucard has no chance, lol.

Alucard at his best couldn't fight an Antediluvian, much less Caine.

Caine is pretty much all-powerful. Malkav, the Malkavian Antediluvian, is so powerful that he or she manages to exist as an incorporeal presence called the Madness Network, which is basically a massive psychic network that connects and powers the Dementia abilities of all Malkavian vampires.


Hey Nemebro you seem to know more about Caine. What rank of power would you rank him?

xSoulSlayerx
Caine is the Dues Ex Machina of Vampire the Masquerade. His powers are beyond the scope of stats altogether. However, assume that the he has multiple vampiric disciplines at 10, and has numerous I win "Plot Device" mechanics for you to work with. Then there is that nasty curse God placed on him, kinda of goes like this:

Anyone who hurts Caine takes 7 times more damage and anyone who kills cain dies 7x harder.

Whitewolf did make a statement on what happens when you fight him and the poster above mentioned "You Lose".

The Power Level is ridiculous imo, but that's Caine for you. I'm an Alucard Fan, but he loses here.

Fun Fact: Ravnos Tanked a "few" spirit nukes (Designed to WIPE OUT supernatural beings) and he survived the nuclear explosions. Fortitude 9 (Vampire Discipline) allows you to make a part of your body indestructible for a certain amount of time. Fortitude 10 "Plot Device" can do anything you need it to do as long as it fits the vampiric power it's assigned to, hence with Fortitude, it is the ability to soak an incomprehensible amount of damage. Caine would have numerous 10's to work with.

Utrigita
^That and it's speculated that Caine having the age that he has, has advanced the Disciplins beyond that, and can create new ones on the fly. As I read that it means that if he doesn't think he has what is required in his arsenal to deal with a threat he makes a new disciplin to handle the problem.

What the others have said, Alucard dies.

We have not even touched upon Blood magic and the possibilities that gives him.

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