Lucy (Elfen Lied) vs. Juri Han

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vansonbee
http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/5/44100.jpg vs. http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/9/90328.jpg

Juri Han can use her showings from the recent games. First fight will take place first in graveyard scene in Elfen Lied, the second fight will be KMC standard.

NemeBro
Is this end of series Lucy or standard?

The former stomps, the latter probably loses.

SSJGGogeta
While I'm glad someone finally made a thread about Elfen Lied, I'm sad it had to be a spite thread. Lucy dissects her within seconds without letting Juri even get a hit in.

NemeBro
Armour-piercing rounds can get through Lucy's vectors.

Juri one-shots Lucy.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
Armour-piercing rounds can get through Lucy's vectors.

Juri one-shots Lucy.

Armor-piercing rounds can get through early, undeveloped Nana's vectors. Early, undeveloped Lucy? She was able to re-direct the bullet from a barrette .50 cal sniper rifle. Later manga versions of Lucy have feats like lifting Chinook helicopters with ease, as well as cutting jets in half from several kilometers away, and creating vectors thousands of miles long. Juri Han gets eaten by Early Lucy that could stop armor piercing rounds from moving one centimeter. thumb up

Show one thing Juri could do to hurt Lucy. Seriously, I don't know that much about her. I'm just confident she can't hold a candle to Lucy. If you prove me wrong, I'm willing to change my opinion.

NemeBro
As I said, this depends on whether or not the fight is end of manga Lucy (Well, the one before she died) or not.

vansonbee
Originally posted by NemeBro
Is this end of series Lucy or standard?

The former stomps, the latter probably loses. Can I have both version fighting Juri? How much does Juri lose by the former by?

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
As I said, this depends on whether or not the fight is end of manga Lucy (Well, the one before she died) or not.

Ehh, from what I've seen of Juri, it would be more like mid-range Lucy that could block explosions and move FTS beating her, and end of manga Lucy it would be a stomp.

BloodRain
There's a possibly unquantifiable speed feat. Where Nyu is shot in the chest for Lucy to then take control and stop the bullet from reaching her heart. Centimeter length?

Early Lucy would.. tie? Juri's faster than most Lucy versions, still she's up against near invisible, intangible, supersonic arms. The mid up to Queen Lucy (pre suicide) would stomp.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by BloodRain
There's a possibly unquantifiable speed feat. Where Nyu is shot in the chest for Lucy to then take control and stop the bullet from reaching her heart. Centimeter length?

Early Lucy would.. tie? Juri's faster than most Lucy versions, still she's up against near invisible, intangible, supersonic arms. The mid up to Queen Lucy (pre suicide) would stomp.

Yeah, that vector stopping a bullet from moving an extra centimeter as soon as she was awakened is pretty impressive. I agree, Lucy stomps.

NemeBro
You all have no notion of how powerful Street Fighter characters are, lol.

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About 50 seconds in. Mid-fight, Chun-Li could bust out an attack that could do that.

Juri beat Chun-Li easily, and is on par with Bison, whom tanked said attack and proceeded to exceed it.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
You all have no notion of how powerful Street Fighter characters are, lol.

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About 50 seconds in. Mid-fight, Chun-Li could bust out an attack that could do that.

Juri beat Chun-Li easily, and is on par with Bison, whom tanked said attack and proceeded to exceed it.

You apparently have no notion of how powerful Elfen Lied characters are.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/105.0/compressed/12_143.jpg?v=11219953506

This shows Lucy visible vectors being as large as continents. In the previous pages, she was using smaller, weaker vectors than these to tear through steel like butter, and rip islands apart.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/104.0/compressed/12_113.jpg?v=11219443368

This is the result of Lucy's vectors slamming into cities. She can pretty much destroy entire towns just by waving her vectors over them.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/103.0/compressed/12_103.jpg?v=11218852967

Lucy's vectors easily blocking explosions from huge missiles that were confirmed by the director to be capable of tearing the entire building they're on to shreads. Easily blocking huge building busters like that puts her far above anything that dude did in the trailer, lol.

However, these are mostly high end Lucy feats. Let's look at some lower-end feats, shall we?

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/097.0/compressed/11_222_223.jpg?v=11215189852

Lucy's vectors destroying an entire island.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/088.0/compressed/11_010.jpg?v=11209662167

This is Nana, who has been blitzed casually by Lucy DOZENS of times, performing a speed feat by easily dodging and slipping past Mariko's vectors and senses. The same Mariko that blocked two multi-ton steel warheads after they were already inches from her face, blocked and dodged machine gun fire, was able to move her vectors faster than sniper fire, and was able to block expanding explosions from point-blank range. Lucy at this stage, around the middle of the series, would blitz Juri Han and decapitate her faster than she could even register that the fight had begun. thumb up

BloodRain
Neme is talking about pre-meltdown Lucy,

Would still say Lucy has the speed, cant be bothered to look much into it, though yes was overlooking the power SF possesses. Only that island feat would assist, if it really is normal Lucy.

Still its not so much the raw power as much as its intangible.

Impediment
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
While I'm glad someone finally made a thread about Elfen Lied, I'm sad it had to be a spite thread. Lucy dissects her within seconds without letting Juri even get a hit in.

I agree.

Anime Lucy kicks ass, but Manga Lucy annihilates. Manga Lucy's vectors are so massive, they can penetrate the atmosphere.

NemeBro
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You apparently have no notion of how powerful Elfen Lied characters are.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/105.0/compressed/12_143.jpg?v=11219953506

This shows Lucy visible vectors being as large as continents. In the previous pages, she was using smaller, weaker vectors than these to tear through steel like butter, and rip islands apart.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/104.0/compressed/12_113.jpg?v=11219443368

This is the result of Lucy's vectors slamming into cities. She can pretty much destroy entire towns just by waving her vectors over them.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/103.0/compressed/12_103.jpg?v=11218852967

Lucy's vectors easily blocking explosions from huge missiles that were confirmed by the director to be capable of tearing the entire building they're on to shreads. Easily blocking huge building busters like that puts her far above anything that dude did in the trailer, lol.

However, these are mostly high end Lucy feats. Let's look at some lower-end feats, shall we?
http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/097.0/compressed/11_222_223.jpg?v=11215189852

Lucy's vectors destroying an entire island.

You can't read, can you?

What did my first post in this thread say?

Also, what chapter is the "island destroying" feat from?



And Abel, one of the slowest characters in Street Fighter's roster, can react to and block Guile's mach 2 sonic booms.

And unlike Nana, he didn't need to catch the opponent off-guard to do his feat.

Lucy's vectors can't even block a modified Desert Eagle, as seen in her fight with Bando. She also, as you've forgotten to mention, has a range of two meters with her vectors, and her body happens to be not nearly as fast as her vectors.

Juri one-shots any Lucy but end of series "So strong my body is melting" Lucy. thumb up

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
You can't read, can you?

What did my first post in this thread say?

Also, what chapter is the "island destroying" feat from?



And Abel, one of the slowest characters in Street Fighter's roster, can react to and block Guile's mach 2 sonic booms.

And unlike Nana, he didn't need to catch the opponent off-guard to do his feat.

Lucy's vectors can't even block a modified Desert Eagle, as seen in her fight with Bando. She also, as you've forgotten to mention, has a range of two meters with her vectors, and her body happens to be not nearly as fast as her vectors.

Juri one-shots any Lucy but end of series "So strong my body is melting" Lucy. thumb up

You obviously can't read.

Lucy destroyed the island before the meltdown. It was right before actually, and probably one of the main things that caused the meltdown, but still before.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/088.0/compressed/11_009.jpg?v=11209662167

Does this look like Mariko was off-guard? It doesn't to me, considering she was the one who began attacking and was looking straight at Nana, who was sitting down, before she disappeared. Again, this happened to Mariko, who was reacted to bullets, missiles and explosions from centimeters away. That instantly puts Nana, whose speed is nothing compared to Lucy, at far above anything Juri has ever shown capable of. thumb up

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/084.0/compressed/elfen10_042.jpg?v=11205448249

Quite a bit before the meltdown, Lucy was able to destroy helicopters from dozens of meters away. This was about middle or late-mid Lucy.

Lucy's vectors could redirect a modified Desert Eagle's bullets even though they couldn't outright block them. Plus, that was like beginning Lucy, from like chapter 20. Her vectors got strong enough to destroy entire warships from far away, completely block machine gun fire, missiles and explosions, in around the 60th chapter, the middle of the series. thumb up

You still haven't shown a SINGLE feat that suggests Juri could do anything to Lucy. Or anyone from all of Street fighter for that matter. Bison was still visibly hurt from that attack, that made about a 10 foot crater. Lucy has blocked attacks from people that have demonstrated island busting abilities, like Mariko.

Diclonii use their vectors to propel themselves and enhance their physical abilities. They can move as fast as their vectors. This is demonstrated by one of the Mariko clones flying to an island from the town in just a few minutes. It's also demonstrated by what Nana did.

Yamcha
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You still haven't shown a SINGLE feat that suggests Juri could do anything to Lucy. Or anyone from all of Street fighter for that matter.

http://i60.tinypic.com/n3lsfb.jpg

Yamcha
Omg. I'm a ****ing idiot. **** **** ****.

I thought he meant no one in Street Fighter could take Lucy but he meant that evidence hasn't been shown that Juri could hurt Lucy or anyone in Street Fighter.

Apologies, I'm ****ing retarded.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2ccs4g9.jpg

NemeBro
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
You obviously can't read.

Lucy destroyed the island before the meltdown. It was right before actually, and probably one of the main things that caused the meltdown, but still before.

All right, I finally found what you are talking about.

You're still referring to end of series Lucy, just before her power began degrading her body.



Yes actually, Mariko stupidly not paying attention to Nana, allowing her to lose her, and then attacking her from behind is in fact attacking Mariko while she is off-guard. thumb up



Juri is faster than all. thumb up

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/084.0/compressed/elfen10_042.jpg?v=11205448249

Quite a bit before the meltdown, Lucy was able to destroy helicopters from dozens of meters away. This was about middle or late-mid Lucy.

What is with you and not citing the chapter you're posting about?

Anyway, found it already, that's from chapter 84, still after Lucy's vectors grew more powerful than what she had for most of the series. thumb up

As seen by the scientist being incredulous that she can destroy something from that range.



You're thinking of her first fight with Bando. The second one occurs in the late middle part of the series.

"Around the 60th chapter", nope. thumb up



An attack of that potency would kill Lucy.



> 10 foot crater

Make your trolling less obvious coward.



Mariko never busted an island, first of all, but perhaps more important is the fact that Mariko beat the ****ing shit out of Lucy.



Neither move as fast as Juri though.

Anyway, Juri one-shots any Lucy save, eh, chapter 80ish and later.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
All right, I finally found what you are talking about.

You're still referring to end of series Lucy, just before her power began degrading her body.



Yes actually, Mariko stupidly not paying attention to Nana, allowing her to lose her, and then attacking her from behind is in fact attacking Mariko while she is off-guard. thumb up



Juri is faster than all. thumb up

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/084.0/compressed/elfen10_042.jpg?v=11205448249

Quite a bit before the meltdown, Lucy was able to destroy helicopters from dozens of meters away. This was about middle or late-mid Lucy.

What is with you and not citing the chapter you're posting about?

Anyway, found it already, that's from chapter 84, still after Lucy's vectors grew more powerful than what she had for most of the series. thumb up

As seen by the scientist being incredulous that she can destroy something from that range.



You're thinking of her first fight with Bando. The second one occurs in the late middle part of the series.

"Around the 60th chapter", nope. thumb up



An attack of that potency would kill Lucy.



> 10 foot crater

Make your trolling less obvious coward.



Mariko never busted an island, first of all, but perhaps more important is the fact that Mariko beat the ****ing shit out of Lucy.



Neither move as fast as Juri though.

Anyway, Juri one-shots any Lucy save, eh, chapter 80ish and later.

The unlimited stupidity of idiots that feel the need to go down with their sinking ship on the internet is ridiculous. I almost laughed at that post until I realized you were being serious.

Do you not have any common sense? Mariko was TALKING to Nana. She was LOOKING straight at her. This even happened several other times after the initial counter-attack Nana effortlessly landed. Here's some scans.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/088.0/compressed/11_011.jpg?v=11209662167

Was she caught off-gaurd here? In the middle of a fight? If you think it does, we might as well just say that anyone who has even been beaten up in a battle was caught off-gaurd. Your stupidity is literally about to make me cry. thumb up

I meant 100 foot crater. That attack was pretty big, I'll admit. However, it still doesn't compare to island busting.

http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/29/057.0/compressed/ElfenLied_v06_c057_p157.jpg?v=11192527603

Mariko even saying that she was perfectly on guard, but that Nana was too fast for her. This is from chapter 57. thumb up

Mariko beat the **** out of Lucy because she was protecting Kurama and Nana. Lucy beat the shit out of Nana easily, but when Nana even heard Mariko mention that she would kill Kurama, Nana suddenly shat on her no problem, even though she was previously getting beaten like a rag doll. I've already said this before. The diclonii get stronger the angrier they get. A perfect example of this are Nana raping Mariko effortlessly after getting tortured by her, jut because she said she'd kill Kurama. Another is when Lucy saw Kouta get shot and she expanded her range instantly from 2 meters to 200 meters, and was then able to get even madder to blow up islands, make her vectors vibrate so fast they were visible(that's what she said), make her vectors bigger than entire towns, and block pretty much anything, including the explosions from multiple high powered missiles. If Mariko made Lucy angry by saying she'd kill Kouta, Lucy would have shat on her.

Unless you've forgotten, there are 107 chapter, ranging from 12 to 46 pages a chapter, lol. Doing the math, chapter 84 is late middle of the series Lucy, like I said. thumb up

Explain how Juri is so much faster. What has she done that would point to her being capable of doing shit that even Mariko, the weakest of the main three diclonius(because of her slowness), has done with no trouble at all?

You already agreed with what I said though. Juri gets shat on by chapter 80-ish Lucy, which is middle of the series Lucy. thumb up

God Cloth Seiya
Lucy Rips her a new one.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Lucy Rips her a new one.

See Nemebro? This guy gets it.

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