Initiation: Art or feminist porno?

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Epicurus
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/02/05/art-or-pornography-controversy-erupts-over-racy-student-video-shot-at-columbia/

Epicurus
Some additional quotes from Young:


http://www.uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2014/02/nude-college-girls-filmed-porn-columbia-library-art/

Epicurus
Additional info:
http://gawker.com/some-nude-college-girls-filmed-a-feminist-porno-in-colu-1515084075

Bardock42
Why can't it be both?

Tzeentch
lol modern art

Mindship
I hope art is not their major.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why can't it be both?
That depends. Do you consider a bunch of women randomly stripping and making out in a public place to be art?
Originally posted by Mindship
I hope art is not their major.
It is of one of the co-creators of the film(she also starred in it), and probably of one of the actresses as well.

Epicurus
I find it ironic that in the name of protesting/satirizing Columbia University's alleged patriarchal academic/social structure, these women end up playing straight into their hands.

This quote from one of the links I provided drives home the point:

Bardock42
Originally posted by Epicurus
That depends. Do you consider a bunch of women randomly stripping and making out in a public place to be art?

I definitely think it could have artistic merit in some contexts, yes.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Epicurus
This quote from one of the links I provided drives home the point:

"What is a parody?"

"Correct."

"I'll take basic literally concepts for 200, please."

"Oh, you've hit the daily double. How much will you wager?"

"All of it."

"Okay. If you double that would give you a total of $200 if you win and $0 if you lose. You ready for the question?"

"Yes."

"Through this literally or art form, it is possible to critique a fetish while indulging in it."

"What is satire?...wait...wasn't that the same as the first?"

"Correct. And, yes. Don't question it! You now have $200."

Epicurus
Originally posted by dadudemon

"What is a parody?"

"Correct."

"I'll take basic literally concepts for 200, please."

"Oh, you've hit the daily double. How much will you wager?"

"All of it."

"Okay. If you double that would give you a total of $200 if you win and $0 if you lose. You ready for the question?"

"Yes."

"Through this literally or art form, it is possible to critique a fetish while indulging in it."

"What is satire?...wait...wasn't that the same as the first?"

"Correct. And, yes. Don't question it! You now have $200."
Not sure whether to roll my eyes, facepalm or just have a plain old confused look on my face.

Or all 3 of the above. Combos are the best afterall.roll eyes (sarcastic)confusedfacepalm

Also, your quote function is slightly off.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Epicurus
Not sure whether to roll my eyes, facepalm or just have a plain old confused look on my face.

Or all 3 of the above. Combos are the best afterall.roll eyes (sarcastic)confusedfacepalm

Also, your quote function is slightly off.


You would have been better off using another childish spelling or grammar come back.

"That's not how you spell literary!"

Epicurus
Originally posted by dadudemon
You would have been better off using another childish spelling or grammar come back.

"That's not how you spell literary!"
You would have been better off not posting in this thread at all tbh.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
That depends. Do you consider a bunch of women randomly stripping and making out in a public place to be art?
...

Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know.

Stealth Moose
Everything is art according to the laziest and most inclusive definition.

But good art is more selective. This just looks like stupid college idiocy at its finest.

Tzeentch
thumb up

NemeBro
None of you have an educated opinion on what qualifies as fine art.

The only way to judge it is to post it so I can watch it.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by NemeBro
None of you have an educated opinion on what qualifies as fine art.

The only way to judge it is to post it so I can watch it.

http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/221.jpg

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by NemeBro
None of you have an educated opinion on what qualifies as fine art.

The only way to judge it is to post it so I can watch it.

I have a degree in fine arts. Now that doesn't mean I am qualified to judge fine art, but I do know what they teach in art school.

ArtificialGlory
Originally posted by NemeBro
None of you have an educated opinion on what qualifies as fine art.

The only way to judge it is to post it so I can watch it.

Exactly. I require more material for, uhhh, artistic research. With my dick.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
http://cdn2.holytaco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/221.jpg Got me rock hard.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Epicurus
You would have been better off not posting in this thread at all tbh.


You mean you didn't like me answering your question with the obvious answer that clearly escaped you, tbh. big grin

Can I also be frank?

And what should I do with this 2 cents?

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by dadudemon
You mean you didn't like me answering your question with the obvious answer that clearly escaped you, tbh. big grin

Can I also be frank?

And what should I do with this 2 cents?

We don't know where those pennies have been. wink

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know.
It's a bunch of college coeds taking off their clothes, doing lewd things to each other(which me likeys), and running around in their undies in the hallways carrying a dead chicken and rubbing it on the walls, and beating each other with it. It also consists of them applying egg yol/albumen on each other's hair/bodies as if it were everyday body lotion.

So tell me, do you consider it to be "good art"?

Epicurus
Originally posted by NemeBro
None of you have an educated opinion on what qualifies as fine art.

The only way to judge it is to post it so I can watch it.
Originally posted by Epicurus
Additional info:
http://gawker.com/some-nude-college-girls-filmed-a-feminist-porno-in-colu-1515084075

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
It's a bunch of college coeds taking off their clothes, doing lewd things to each other(which me likeys), and running around in their undies in the hallways carrying a dead chicken and rubbing it on the walls, and beating each other with it. It also consists of them applying egg yol/albumen on each other's hair/bodies as if it were everyday body lotion.

So tell me, do you consider it to be "good art"?

"Good Art?" What in the hell is good art? I know what great art is, but I don't care about "good art". Many artists that can't make great art, make crappy art to get their names known. Think about it, we are now talking about their crappy art. People all over the world are talking about their crappy art.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"Good Art?" What in the hell is good art?
That's an interesting question. You should ask this guy, since he brought it up:
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know.

Lord Lucien
Burn.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
That's an interesting question. You should ask this guy, since he brought it up:

You are confused. You mistakenly think that art has to be good.

ArtificialGlory
I'll answer that for you guys: no, it's not good art. It's shite.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
That's an interesting question. You should ask this guy, since he brought it up:

Originally posted by Epicurus
...So tell me, do you consider it to be "good art"?

You are the person who asked me the question, and now you are saying I brought it up.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are the person who asked me the question, and now you are saying I brought it up.
You brought up the idea of whether it was "good art" or not, which is why I asked said question. I quoted the very post you mentioned it in as well.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Think about it, we are now talking about their crappy art. People all over the world are talking about their crappy art.
I agree.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
You brought up the idea of whether it was "good art" or not, which is why I asked said question. I quoted the very post you mentioned it in as well.

"Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know."

This was in response to your question. You asked if it was good art.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know."

This was in response to your question. You asked if it was good art.
Actually, that was in response to my 1st question; whether or not you considered this to even be art to begin with. You brought up "good art" in response to that, to which my 2nd question(So tell me, do you consider it to be "good art"? ) was aimed. I hope that clears things up.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
Actually, that was in response to my 1st question; whether or not you considered this to even be art to begin with. You brought up "good art" in response to that, to which my 2nd question(So tell me, do you consider it to be "good art"? ) was aimed. I hope that clears things up.

NO!

Here are all of my posts in this thread in order:

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have a degree in fine arts. Now that doesn't mean I am qualified to judge fine art, but I do know what they teach in art school.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We don't know where those pennies have been. wink

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"Good Art?" What in the hell is good art? I know what great art is, but I don't care about "good art". Many artists that can't make great art, make crappy art to get their names known. Think about it, we are now talking about their crappy art. People all over the world are talking about their crappy art.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are confused. You mistakenly think that art has to be good.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are the person who asked me the question, and now you are saying I brought it up.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know."

This was in response to your question. You asked if it was good art.

My first post was in response to your second question. So, I did NOT bring up good art, you did!
You must be confusing me with someone else.

Epicurus
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My first post was in response to your second question. So, I did NOT bring up good art, you did!
You must be confusing me with someone else.
This proves you wrong:
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Epicurus
That depends. Do you consider a bunch of women randomly stripping and making out in a public place to be art?
...
Yes, it can be art. Art is communication of ideas. Now, is it good art? I don't know.

Epicurus
Here's a screen shot for further proof:
http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/shakya_confusion_zpsedc5d8b1.jpg

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