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Lets see if these two can take him down. Sauron has his body and the ring.

Sauron wins.

Sairon is supposed to be more powerful bit honestly in the movie verse neither him nor any of the mages have showings that make one think they are incredibly powerful. And unless you have read the novels, they were probably outshined by Legolas.

But in the novels, I think it is stated the maiar never truly unleashed their full power in the lotr.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Sairon is supposed to be more powerful bit honestly in the movie verse neither him nor any of the mages have showings that make one think they are incredibly powerful. And unless you have read the novels, they were probably outshined by Legolas.

But in the novels, I think it is stated the maiar never truly unleashed their full power in the lotr. Did you miss the Desolation of Smaug ?

Yes. I haven't seen it yet. But in the novels, gandalf doesn't do anything spectacular that I can remember, but then again legolas wasn't even in the hobbit so I'm guessing they changed something.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Sairon is supposed to be more powerful bit honestly in the movie verse neither him nor any of the mages have showings that make one think they are incredibly powerful. And unless you have read the novels, they were probably outshined by Legolas.

Uh, no.... Hell Gandalf kicked Legolas's ass.

Oh no. Don't get me wrong. I didn't mean that legolas is stronger than them. Hell no. I meant to the general audience who have never read the novels that Legolas jumping around and killing stuff might seem more impressive than some of the things Gandalf did.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Yes. I haven't seen it yet. But in the novels, gandalf doesn't do anything spectacular that I can remember, but then again legolas wasn't even in the hobbit so I'm guessing they changed something. You need to rewatch the films.

Gandalf takes on the Balrog while Legolas flees due to not being able to affect him in the slightest.

I know. But most of that is off screen. I know, and you know, and anyone who has read the novels know this. I'm talking about someone who just saw the movie and never read the books. Legolas had just as many parts in the movies where he did something cool or badass as Gandalf did. And while, him shooting arrows is obviously not as powerful as magic he "shined" in the movies just as much. Not sure if y'all see where I'm coming from or not. I may just not be explaining it very well. Oh well.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I know. But most of that is off screen. I know, and you know, and anyone who has read the novels know this. I'm talking about someone who just saw the movie and never read the books. Legolas had just as many parts in the movies where he did something cool or badass as Gandalf did. And while, him shooting arrows is obviously not as powerful as magic he "shined" in the movies just as much. Not sure if y'all see where I'm coming from or not. I may just not be explaining it very well. Oh well. His feats were far less impressive than Gandalf's and were mostly down against fodder unlike Gandalf.

Gandalf falls down a ravine in the earth and manfights the Balrog in freefall.

Legolas did not look more impressive to anyone, lol.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Gandalf falls down a ravine in the earth and manfights the Balrog in freefall.

Legolas did not look more impressive to anyone, lol.

It was only that Balrog fight that Gandalf was impressive at. Everything else he did was outclassed by Legolas.

But as far as the match goes, I know Sauron is supposed to be this badass and all but he's seriously lacking in movie feats. He looked nothing more than a big bruiser, and Gandalf and Saruman could probably just levitate him and thrown him around the room till they knock his ring off.

He casually defeated Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn at the same time.

Legolas had trouble with a big orc in Desolation, Gandalf fought Sauron personally.

What are you even talking about?