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All-out war between the Federation from the JJ-Abrams verse and Asgard from the MCU.

- The Federation is lead by Admiral Marcus . Khan and his people are part of Starfleet in this battle.

-The Dark Elves has allied themselves with Asgard to face a mutual threat.

Two Conditions.

1. The Federation attacks Asgard
2. Asgard Attacks Earth


Who wins?

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Federation would have enough problem with cloaked ships as they always have, add in Odin/Thor/Heimdal/ and all of Asgard. It would be a tough battle but Asgard/Elve's would win.

The Federation is pretty damn big, hundreds of worlds. I think the Federation does have the tech advantage. However Earth has shit for security and I can see Odin & company doing some serious damage, if they can land on the planet.

Originally posted by playa1258
The Federation is pretty damn big, hundreds of worlds. I think the Federation does have the tech advantage. However Earth has shit for security and I can see Odin & company doing some serious damage, if they can land on the planet.

I actually was thinking about watching Thor 2 again tonight, I'll pay closer attention to the star ships weapons.

If Malekith has the Aether or Jane has it, that could be big problem as well.

Heimdal took down a ship with a dagger and Thor was pretty confident on his hammer doing the same when he tossed it at one of the ships, that hammer would wreck it even worse with the way he can manipulate it.

Also the lightning he was using in Avengers was wrecking the leviathans, where as Iron Man's laser could not.

Federation shields is another thing to think about. Although they have never been very effective in any movie and seem to be the first thing disabled so that prolly won't be that big of a deal in this fight, their shields are pretty weak.

Originally posted by playa1258
The Federation is pretty damn big, hundreds of worlds. I think the Federation does have the tech advantage. However Earth has shit for security and I can see Odin & company doing some serious damage, if they can land on the planet.

Also I think Odin can land anywhere with the Bifrost. Its explained as a inter dimensional portal so any earth's defenses could not be able to stop them landing, plus they are pretty good at landing on earth or anywhere else for that matter

As for Federation attacking Asgard with the whole fleet, they are probably screwed. Khan would sneak in and team up with Loki and find the shield generator and take it down, and then the fleet would wreck them by sheer numbers.

Only ace in their whole would be the Destroyer.

Federation shields are weak to Trek weapons which are more powerful than what we have seen so far from Asgard.

Future Spock sends Red Matter at the ships. Chaos ensues. All the Marvel people die.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Also I think Odin can land anywhere with the Bifrost. Its explained as a inter dimensional portal so any earth's defenses could not be able to stop them landing, plus they are pretty good at landing on earth or anywhere else for that matter

As for Federation attacking Asgard with the whole fleet, they are probably screwed. Khan would sneak in and team up with Loki and find the shield generator and take it down, and then the fleet would wreck them by sheer numbers.

Only ace in their whole would be the Destroyer.

That's assuming Loki would side with Khan. Heck, if Khan tries to make a bargain with Loki, Loki might just kill him on the spot, and Khan won't be able to do anything about it.

Thread derailed in 3..2...1... LOL

Originally posted by playa1258
Federation shields are weak to Trek weapons which are more powerful than what we have seen so far from Asgard.

Who knows how their shields would hold up against the powers of Thor or Odin or the Destroyer or say a Bifrost blast

Originally posted by KingD19
Future Spock sends Red Matter at the ships. Chaos ensues. All the Marvel people die.

I wonder what is more powerful, red matter or the Aether.

Originally posted by FrothByte
That's assuming Loki would side with Khan. Heck, if Khan tries to make a bargain with Loki, Loki might just kill him on the spot, and Khan won't be able to do anything about it.

He would side with whoever is trying to kill Thor, make Odin look bad, and shame Asgard

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He would side with whoever is trying to kill Thor, make Odin look bad, and shame Asgard

He didn't side with the dark elves...

Originally posted by FrothByte
He didn't side with the dark elves...

He did actually, Loki serves himself and plays both sides. He sided with them to take down Asgard's shields, then faked his death and usurped Thor from taking his seat at the throne. He sides with whatever chance he gets to try and kill Thor, keep him from getting the throne, make Odin get more grey, and it works every time.

Do you think Thor's lightning attacks ,Iron Man's weapons are more powerful than phasers or photon torpedoes?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
He did actually, Loki serves himself and plays both sides. He sided with them to take down Asgard's shields, then faked his death and usurped Thor from taking his seat at the throne. He sides with whatever chance he gets to try and kill Thor, keep him from getting the throne, make Odin get more grey, and it works every time.

He didn't side with them to take down Asgard's shields. Kurse brought the shields down on his own and Loki was still in his cell until Thor came and let him out.

Originally posted by KingD19
He didn't side with them to take down Asgard's shields. Kurse brought the shields down on his own and Loki was still in his cell until Thor came and let him out.

He told him how to get out of the prison and find the shields. Cmon now. I just watched the movie again.

Federation wins, their weapons are just too powerful!!

The Federation wins, their weapons and technology are too advanced. Plus there's a lot more of them.

Guess we have a consensus.

Dude Asgard has magic, **** tech. Plus Asgard gets the Avengers. Hulk solos

Hulk was pinned down by Chitauri blasters. A single photon torpedo wrecks him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Who knows how their shields would hold up against the powers of Thor or Odin or the Destroyer or say a Bifrost blast

We kinda do:

The Enterprise's shields withstood the power of a super-massive black hole, where a tiny one was capable of obliterating a planet.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Dude Asgard has magic, **** tech. Plus Asgard gets the Avengers. Hulk solos

Nope. The full Federation fleet is >>> Asgard. We're talking about thousands of ships.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Dude Asgard has magic, **** tech. Plus Asgard gets the Avengers. Hulk solos

lol no.

I didn't want to say this but I say , Federation is out of Asgard and dark elves league, they are extremely advanced and and it has many planets which every one of them has their own troops.

Well I gave a good fight for Asgard. I guess they fell due to sheer numbers and raw power. Maybe the fight would have been better with not the whole fleet of thousands of ships.

It's not just numbers.

Kirk > Thor

Originally posted by ares834
lol no.

I'm glad you enjoyed my Quan impression.

Realistically, Federation has too much firepower for Asgard to handle.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's not just numbers.

Kirk > Thor


But Thor is Kirk's dad.

Originally posted by KingD19
But Thor is Kirk's dad.

True

Originally posted by KingD19
But Thor is Kirk's dad.

Touche'

The Federation wins

Originally posted by Psychotron
The Federation wins, their weapons and technology are too advanced. Plus there's a lot more of them.

And yet Compared to the Asgard/Dark Elves they've been around longer even before the The Federation got formed.

Federation has Red Matter. Which does what the Elves wormhole grenades did, but on a planetary scale. A single drop obliterated Vulcan.

No they don't

that was from another timeline which Spock had.

Originally posted by Kazenji
No they don't

that was from another timeline which Spock had.

Good call man!