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Obi Wan Kenobi: "You can't kill me! I have plot immunity you don't stand a chance! Maul: "Oh crap! I serve no importance in the original trilogy I could get killed here and now!" Obi Wan: "That's right ***** now get me a beer". Takes place in dantooine fields Kenobi doesn't get any help from Hondo and maul and savage get no help aswell

Maul and Savage obviously. But for the sake of the plot thet won't kill him and they won't cut off any limbs, or inflict any kind of serious damage.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Maul and Savage obviously. But for the sake of the plot thet won't kill him and they won't cut off any limbs, or inflict any kind of serious damage. wasn't Kenobi winning against maul and Savage on florrum?

Originally posted by PTforthewin
wasn't Kenobi winning against maul and Savage on florrum?
He was holding out, but I wouldn't say he had the upper hand there.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
He was holding out, but I wouldn't say he had the upper hand there. he cut of savages's arm

It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.

Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall.

^ Yeah.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.

Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall. End of ROTS Kenobi would take them though

Yes to DMB, according to Darth Maul: Shadow Conspiracy:
1. Kenobi did a all out offensive when they expected a defensive.
2. The close quarters where they are fighting made the brothers "get in each other's way."
However it should be noted Maul was on a "animal rage", meaning he he was kinda amped in a way: Against them the Sith's attacks were raw and vicious-animal rage amplified and focused by the dark side of the Force."

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.

Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall.


^ This plus Savage didn't/couldn't use his beastly Force Waves without possibly hitting Maul, and Kenobi was extra determined to take them down due to Savage killing Adi. It also might be a factor that Maul wanted to take Kenobi alive.

Basically it was a peak performance for Kenobi, and probably an under performance for the Brothers, all context specific.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
wasn't Kenobi winning against maul and Savage on florrum?


And what about all the times each of the Brother's has beaten Kenobi? Are we just going to ignore those?

Heck even in the same episode Maul and Kenobi had a fairly long one on one, in which neither seemed superior.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
End of ROTS Kenobi would take them though


No chance. Look how easily Dooku took him out in ROTS while fighting off Skywalker. You think Dooku would take out Maul and Savage that easily? No way. Savage and Ventress have given Dooku trouble.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ This plus Savage didn't/couldn't use his beastly Force Waves without possibly hitting Maul, and Kenobi was extra determined to take them down due to Savage killing Adi. It also might be a factor that Maul wanted to take Kenobi alive.

Basically it was a peak performance for Kenobi, and probably an under performance for the Brothers, all context specific.




And what about all the times each of the Brother's has beaten Kenobi? Are we just going to ignore those?

Heck even in the same episode Maul and Kenobi had a fairly long one on one, in which neither seemed superior.




No chance. Look how easily Dooku took him out in ROTS while fighting off Skywalker. You think Dooku would take out Maul and Savage that easily? No way. Savage and Ventress have given Dooku trouble. if obi wan defeated anakin who wasn't holding back but obi wan was holding back and anakin killed dooku which means mustafar Kenobi can defeat dooku

Lol.
Anakin was extremely unstable in his fight against Kenobi on Mustafar.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lol.
Anakin was extremely unstable in his fight against Kenobi on Mustafar. unstable anakin would have easily killed dooku plus he "unstable" anakin was the only reason operation knightfall was successful not to mention that he killed like 5 jedi masters at a time including Cin drallig and sera kota

Originally posted by PTforthewin
if obi wan defeated anakin who wasn't holding back but obi wan was holding back and anakin killed dooku which means mustafar Kenobi can defeat dooku


Don't be silly. Kenobi fought Dooku in the same movie, as well as in TCW. He's been completely outmatched against Dooku everytime he's fought him.

Dooku spent energy fighting 2 opponents and KO'ing 1 of them whilst outclassing both then just underestimated the power of Anakin's full controlled rage. Plus Dooku was trying to turn Anakin as per Sidious's orders.

Kenobi on the other hand knew Anakin power and moves inside and out, and was prepared and ready to take him down.

Also with Anakin we don't know how much of his true potential came out against Dooku when he defeated him. Remember this is the same guy who one time overpowered The Son and Daughter. Doesn't mean ROTS Kenobi could do that LOL.

End of Anakin vs Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku were 2 completely different fights and can not/should not be compared to one another.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Don't be silly. Kenobi fought Dooku in the same movie, as well as in TCW. He's been completely outmatched against Dooku everytime he's fought him.

Dooku spent energy fighting 2 opponents and KO'ing 1 of them whilst outclassing both then just underestimated the power of Anakin's full controlled rage. Plus Dooku was trying to turn Anakin as per Sidious's orders.

Kenobi on the other hand knew Anakin power and moves inside and out, and was prepared and ready to take him down.

Also with Anakin we don't know how much of his true potential came out against Dooku when he defeated him. Remember this is the same guy who one time overpowered The Son and Daughter. Doesn't mean ROTS Kenobi could do that LOL.

End of Anakin vs Kenobi and Anakin vs Dooku were 2 completely different fights and can not/should not be compared to one another. it doesn't matter TCW maul can not defeat obi wan on his own maul even admitted it stating "we Are 2 and your no match for us both".

Originally posted by PTforthewin
it doesn't matter TCW maul can not defeat obi wan on his own maul even admitted it stating "we Are 2 and your no match for us both".


You missed the part where he said "surrender." Maul was talking from the context of wanting Kenobi alive.

Maul and Kenobi fought one on one that same episode. They were pretty even in Sabers, with perhaps Kenobi having the edge. But Maul has shown more power in the Force, and has dominated Kenobi with his superior Force powers a few times now.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You missed the part where he said "surrender." Maul was talking from the context of wanting Kenobi alive.

Maul and Kenobi fought one on one that same episode. They were pretty even in Sabers, with perhaps Kenobi having the edge. But Maul has shown more power in the Force, and has dominated Kenobi with his superior Force powers a few times now. so what? Force pushing and throwing Kenobi around isnt a big feet. Kenobi did the same type of force push on grievous in episode 3. Plus Maul was killed by Owen Lars and he lost to obi in that dual near the Lars homestead.

Kenobi pushing Grievous showed Kenobi was more powerful than him. So of course Maul pushing Kenobi favours Maul as an argument.

The whole Lars dual you refer to is not canon.

The brothers SLAUGHTERHOUSE

Originally posted by PTforthewin
so what? Force pushing and throwing Kenobi around isnt a big feet. Kenobi did the same type of force push on grievous in episode 3. Plus Maul was killed by Owen Lars and he lost to obi in that dual near the Lars homestead.
Grievous can't use the force. He has no telekinetic defense.

Also the fight you refer to on tatooine is noncanon.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Grievous can't use the force. He has no telekinetic defense.

Also the fight you refer to on tatooine is noncanon. proof it give me a source

Originally posted by PTforthewin
proof it give me a source
Prove what? Grievous can't use the force or Old Wounds is noncanon?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Prove what? Grievous can't use the force or Old Wounds is noncanon? old wounds

Firstly is completely contradicted by TCW so would automatically be rendered Non-Canon.
Secondly, it was never canon in the first place, it was part of a "what if" line which had things like "what if Luke failed to blow the Death Star."
Thirdly even in that Non-Canon comic Maul had Kenobu first but decided to gloat, before Kenobi beat Maul. Not that it matters though as it's not canon.

Actually, Old Wounds was once canon until Leland Chee stated it was not.

Both brothers have made Kenobi their ***** with their force attacks. Kenobi isn't really that great of a swordsmen, half of his notable duels have all been done as the plot demands and are PIS. He could probably take 50/50 on Savage, but in a duel dependent on actual skill and not George Lucas's idiotic plot contrivances Maul would kill Kenobi with mid difficulty. Add both brothers and Kenobi is dead within a minute possibly less

Originally posted by Emperordmb
It was taking everything Obi-wan had to hold off Maul and Savage on Florrum, and he had two advantages. One was dual blades, which were clearly useful in fending off both adversaries. The other was the relatively cramped environment of the cave, which Kenobi could take advantage of with Sokan, Maul and Savage could attack him from fewer directions, they had less space to coordinate, and the relative lack of space was certainly a hindrance to a fighter of Savage's size and armament.

Without these advantages here Kenobi would fall. It shouldn't even matter what small advantages Kenobi had. Its a 2 on one situation. If its that Kenobi vs machine legged Maul & Savage, then Kenobi again has a chance of winning. It's not as "obvious" as Darth Power says it is.

Originally posted by mnat801
It shouldn't even matter what small advantages Kenobi had. Its a 2 on one situation. If its that Kenobi vs machine legged Maul & Savage, then Kenobi again has a chance of winning. It's not as "obvious" as Darth Power says it is.


Yes it is. Their combined Force powers are way too much for him. Heck their individual Force powers are probably enough to take him out. They both have beastly TK, and Kenobi has never done well against powerful TK attacks.