Revan/Companions vs Hero/Companions

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DarthAnt66
Since I found a loophole in the forum's rules, team 1 and 2 are allies while team 3 and 4 are allies. The characters are seen in their prime showings of that particular game unless noted otherwise.
Team 1: KotOR
Revan*, HK-47, T3-M4
Team 2: KotOR
Bastila Shan, Canderous Ordo*, Jolee Bindo
Team 3: TOR
Hero of Tython, T7-O1, Kira Carsen
Team 4: TOR
"Doc", Fideltin Rusk, Scourge

*This is Revan from "Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan"
*This is Ordo from "Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2"

DarthAnt66
I'm going with team one/two. HK and Mandalore can slaughter Doc and Rusk, tipping the balance in favor for KotOR guys. Bastila will also obviously engage Kira, the only other female Jedi, and beat her. You can see where I'm going with this...

Nephthys
Oh man, lets not go crazy now. Thats some radical stuff.

Team TOR IMO.

Hero > Revan
Scourge > Bastila
Kira = Jolee
and who cares about the rest.

DarthAnt66
You think Bastila will face Scourge instead of Kira? And you don't think HK and Mandalore can do some damage to Scourge?

Nephthys
Scourge and Bastila are the second most powerful on their teams, so I matched them up.

Though if you insist, I think Scourge could probably take on HK, Jolee and Canderous at the same time.

DarthAnt66
"Doc" and Rusk would get slaughtered in seconds, glad u agree on such.

Scourge can hold his own against HK, Jolee, and Canderous at the same time, but not defeat them as a whole. HK was good enough to take on a 4 manned Sith Strike team and Canderous is Mandalore with excellent regenerative features. I think they can hold their own against Scourge long enough for Bastila to kill Kira and aid them. If not, if you suggest Bastila fights Scourge, she will be backed up still by HK and Mandalore based on how much they despise Sith.

And honestly, I can see Revan vs Hero going on for a longgg time.

Nephthys
No, they survived the assault on the Dark Temple, they're not going out that easy.

I'd give him a better chance to defeat them than they do him. Especially with Rusks heavy gatling laser backing him up.

I'm not too sure Bastila would kill Kira. Kira is a Child of the Emperor, however unfinished, and has partially resisted one of her "brothers" Force Pushes. Also she has a better track record against swoop gangs then Bastila does. wink

Hmmm, Revan would do well yeah, but he's ultimately outmatched.

DarthAnt66
Canderous survived against Nihilus, and HK survives everything. They are going out easy.

As if HK and Canderous don't have heavy repeating blasters and extremely tough armor.

He would last long enough for aid.

Stealth Moose
Nihilus Force froze Canderous while fail-nom'ing Meetra. Pretty sure he didn't "survive" Nihilus anymore than T3 "survived" Vitiate.

However, heavy repeaters might be good for covering fire, but Scourge isn't a complete noob. He's got the most experience of any single fighter here, and is a certified badass by all rights. HoT and he pretty much make team two a contender. Revan is the only win card on his team.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
T3 "survived" Vitiate.
T3>Vitiate because:
T3>HK as seen in KOTOR2
HK>All meatbags as said in KOTOR1
Meatbags=Palpatine as shown in PT/OT
Palpatine>Vitiate as shown by canon
T3>Palpatine as shown by evidence above
T3>Vitiate by what is above ^

Stealth Moose
Somewhere, Socrates just spun in his grave at the logic abuse.

Also, Vitiate > Palpatine. It is true.

DarthAnt66
Palpatine>Vitiate. It is true.
I DECLARE, A PALPATINE VS VITIATE THREAD!

S_W_LeGenD
Very interesting contest. smile

Revan's team:-

- Bastilla Shan (Powerful Jedi)
- Juhani (Talented Force-user)
- Jolee Bindo (Veteran of Great Sith War; Jedi Consular)
- Carth Onasi (Firearms specialist)
- Canderous Ordo (Mandalore caliber warrior)
- HK-47 (Arguably the deadliest droid in history)
- T3-M4 (Heavily customized droid with decent offensive capabilities and combat experience)

Hero's team:-

- Lord Scourge (Virtually immortal; Emperor's Wrath; extraordinarily powerful and talented warrior; Master swordsman)
- Kira Carsen (Child of the Emperor; talented Force-user)
- Sergeant Fideltin Rusk (Firearms specialist; heavily armed)
- Doc (Brilliant combat surgeon and firearms specialist)
- T7-01 (Heavily armored and customized droid with decent offensive capabilities and massive combat experience)

I am not sure if Hero officially acquires HK-51 droid, would be handy in this contest.

Revan's team is larger and Bastilla Shan can afford to perform BM to augment her team. This is tough.

In Hero's team; T7-01 (possibly) > T3-M4; Lord Scourge is legitimate heavyweight besides Hero of Tython (Hero can take on Revan and Scourge can take on multiple opponents from Revan's team); Sergeant and Doc can keep Carth Onasi and Canderous Ordo busy; Kira Carsen have the option to engage either HK-47 or one of the Jedi.

I think that both teams can win but Hero's team have superiority, thanks to Lord Scourge and Hero himself.

The_Tempest
Er... T3 was blown to smithereens; Canderous walked out alive. Does the presence of quotation marks around a word radically alter its definition?

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Somewhere, Socrates just spun in his grave at the logic abuse.

Also, Vitiate > Palpatine. It is true.

Originally posted by PTforthewin
because you hate everything after the old republic era

DarthAnt66
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Stealth Moose
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Palpatine>Vitiate. It is true.
I DECLARE, A PALPATINE VS VITIATE THREAD!

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130302074633/glee/images/1/1f/Hell-No.gif

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Er... T3 was blown to smithereens; Canderous walked out alive. Does the presence of quotation marks around a word radically alter its definition?

Derp. Canderous only survived because Nihilus weakened himself by trying to nom the Exile. Otherwise, Nihilus effectively neutralized the entire boarding party - including Canderous - with a gesture.

Learn 2 Pay Attention.

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Nephthys
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Canderous survived against Nihilus, and HK survives everything. They are going out easy.

As SM said, Canderous was owned by Nihilus. He survived weakened Nihilus. Doc and Rusk fought through Kaas City before helping to storm a temple with a dark side nexus so strong that blasters don't work on it, filled with Imperial Guard and Sith.

HK gets destroyed in Swtor. stick out tongue

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
As if HK and Canderous don't have heavy repeating blasters and extremely tough armor.

Heavy gatling laser/blaster cannon >

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He would last long enough for aid.

Which he wouldn't receive. Also none of these guys are a serious threat to the HoT other than Revan.

DarthAnt66
@Stealth Moose Your gifs have so much makeup in them they would suffocate the entire TOR galaxy.


Interjection: He is later rebuilt by Malgus.

The_Tempest
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Derp.

Precisely. Canderous did in fact survive Nihilus whereas T3 did not survive Vitiate. Concession accepted bro.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Precisely. Canderous did in fact survive Nihilus whereas T3 did not survive Vitiate. Concession accepted bro.

Canderous did not survive Nihilus by virtue of being himself but by the timely intervention of Walking Plot Device Meetra "NOM NOM LOL" Surik.

Therefore, the point which you attempted to white knight in a pitiable attempt to discredit me, your archnemesis, has backfired.

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Stealth Moose
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Stealth Moose Your gifs have so much makeup in them they would suffocate the entire TOR galaxy.


Interjection: He is later rebuilt by Malgus.

U jelly.

The_Tempest
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Canderous did not survive Nihilus by virtue of being himself but by the timely intervention of Walking Plot Device Meetra "NOM NOM LOL" Surik.

So... what you're saying is... Canderous survived Nihilus?

DarthAnt66
As if Nihilus couldn't solo the entire Kaas City in seconds.

Nephthys
As if your FACE couldn't solo your mom in seconds.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by The_Tempest
So... what you're saying is... Canderous survived Nihilus?

So you're saying.... context is irrelevant?

Okay. Handless Vader after being beaten down by Luke >>>> RotJ Sidious.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
As if Nihilus couldn't solo the entire Kaas City in seconds.

Canderous' performance against Nihilus is inadmissable as evidence, because in the canon cutscene prior to Nihilus being drastically weakened, Canderous was powerless to do anything.

The_Tempest
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
So you're saying.... context is irrelevant?

Okay. Handless Vader after being beaten down by Luke >>>> RotJ Sidious.

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Didn't say Canderous defeated Nihilus or whatnot. Merely corrected you on a technical issue.

for dark pleasure

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by The_Tempest
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Didn't say Canderous defeated Nihilus or whatnot. Merely corrected you on a technical issue.

for dark pleasure

Dark Pleasure I assume is Mace Windu's IM handle?

The_Tempest
I'm handling Mace's dark pleasure?

Stealth Moose
That sounds about right.

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