Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare

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Arachnid1
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/22/call-of-duty-2014-first-image-revealed

We've got our first image. I haven't been hyped for a COD game in a long time, and am not hyped for this one. Hopefully they change that. Without zombies, this series is nothing to me. Do a stand alone zombie game with every map ever made. Do you have any idea the amount of money you would get for that?

Nemesis X
I know we're gonna get a Call of Duty every year but I can't help but cringe whenever I hear of a new one.

Zack Fair
LoL. Me too. Gave up on it a while ago. They should find a way to spice the multiplayer. Its grown too stale for me. I don't ask for something as awesome as Titanfall(Game is super fun. Everyone should effin' play it) As it stands I still like the CoD formula, but I'm bored to hell with it. Problem is if they change anything the fanbase will go nuts and it will implode. Kind of like what happened to Halo with Reach.

Impediment
I haven't even played Ghosts, yet. I dunno if I ever will. I still play Black Ops II semi-regularly.

The entire franchise needs tweaking, IMO.

Zack Fair
Or maybe a break. A year or two would be great. I despise yearly releases. Hated them in sports game and hate them in shooters/assassin's creed. Fact I got up to Modern Warfare 3 is proof how much I liked the addictive gameplay o CoD4's metagame. Oh...and knives need to go to hell lol. I will always hate that mechanic.

The S symbol
Too much. Too Fast. let the series rest for a while.

Kazenji
After what i heard about Ghosts, They need to go back to the early games to find out what made those ones great

even the whole dog that they were hyping up about was a let down too.

Smasandian
Go back to the early games?

They are all the same. The first Call of Duty plays the exactly the same as the last Call of Duty.

Zack Fair
Yeah. Im conflicted about the series. Thank Respawn for Titanfall thugh. Lets me get that arcadish, mindless addictive fun of CoD without feeling like I'm being ripped off.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Smasandian
Go back to the early games?

They are all the same. The first Call of Duty plays the exactly the same as the last Call of Duty.

What i'm trying to say is they need to pull it apart and look at the essence of COD, what makes COD COD? Which is the fast paced frantic online play, those action sequences that are exciting to be in.

Tzeentch
All of those things have been in every iteration of the game, though. The frantic online play, the exciting action set-pieces, it's all there in Ghosts and Black Ops 2.

The problem is just that... shit gets old. Unless it's some shitty Nintendo game like Mario, you can only keep the formula of a game going for so long.

Even with Nintendo's games, the only reason people still play Super Mario 2012943109313812 is because it only comes out once every three or four years, as opposed to semi-annually.

Smasandian
I agree. The Call of Duty franchise has played the same since Medal of Honor: Allied Assault.

It wouldn't be a problem if the release schedule happened every few years instead of every year.

But for some reason I still buy it because the game always comes out when I have a day off from work and would like to play some crazy SP shooter. I don't even bother with the MP because it will not be as good as BF.

BackFire
They actually changed quite a bit with Ghosts. They changed the way you level up, changed the way loadouts work, change the way you get new weapons. All of these changes didn't really work out very weoo. However, they also changed killstreaks and scaled them back, which was the one really good change they did in Ghosts. Unfortunately they also borked up the maps. There's a lot of bad maps in Ghosts. Many are too big and too open. You can go too long without encountering an enemy. Of course large maps like this also give way to annoying games where everyone is sniping. Most of the maps just don't flow as well as they did in Blops 2.

They really should stop with the annual releases. They won't - it's free money, but if they care about the longevity of the series they should. I think a bi-annual COD game would be good.

Smasandian
That' all MP related. I don't play it anymore. I stopped after MW3.

I agree, a bi-annual COD game would be good. Then again, I think bi-annual for any series is a good thing (looking at you Assassins Creed).
Just copy what EA is doing with the BF series. One game every two years and 4-5 substantial map packs.

Zack Fair
thumb up

Kazenji
Call of Duty use to be bi-annual until Treyarch came along.

Smasandian
Kind of.

The only time when CoD was bi-annual was between the first and the second.

But.....there was an expansion pack called United Offensive, which was developed by Grey Matter that was released in 2004. Considering that United Offensive was about 6 hours long and had a different multiplayer (vehicles!), I would still consider CoD to be an annual game.

Kazenji
Well i wasn't taking into account the expansions and all that king of stuff.

Smasandian
I would agree but United Offensive is longer than most of the Call of Duty games.

If it was released in 2014, it would be a full Call of Duty title. It's only an expansion pack because that's what they did in 2004.

Also, Grey Matter merged into Treyarch as well.

Zack Fair
I just think the franchise would benefit from a break. 2 years between each release would make for really, really big hype.

Smasandian
Yes it would.

I was trying to think what they could do. They already done:

1. WW2 in Europe
2. WW2 in Pacific
3. Cold War
4. Modern warfare
5. Future warfare

What's next? No idea.

Tzeentch
Past warfare, obviously.

"Call of Duty: Trojan Ops". You know you want it.

Kazenji
I wouldn't mind them doing that sci-fi setting that got brought up.

Zack Fair
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Trailer and Details Leaked
Footage from 2014's Call of Duty surfaces ahead of planned May 4 reveal.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/02/call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-trailer-and-details-leaked?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

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Kazenji
Someones been watching Elysium.

Tzeentch
No.

Someone's been watching Titanfall.

Zack Fair
Agreed. Kevin Spicey is boss though.

Tzeentch
Yeah, he's a badass.

Not enough to get me interested in the game, though. It still looks like standard Call of Duty to me, perhaps with a little parkhour thrown into it. Plot looks dumb and generic.

idk. Frankly, I can't even think of what they could add to the game to make it fresh and worth buying. I'm just burnt out on shooters. Halo, CoD, Gears, etc.

All FPS's should take a nice, 5 year break or so after their third game.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Tzeentch
No.

Someone's been watching Titanfall.

Looks more Elysium to me with them suits.

Tzeentch
No, you're right.

I was poking fun at the notion of them adding in wall-scaling and the like.

Smasandian
Knowing me I will probably still buy it for the SP.

I'm getting a Killzone vibe for some reason.

Impediment
Meh. Couldn't be less interested. Just CoD trying to be Halo, Titanfall, Elysium, etc.

Kevin Spacey and the graphics look awesome, though.

Kazenji
Sledgehammer discusses a cancelled 3rd person Call of Duty title

http://www.playstationtrophies.org/news/news-13147-Sledgehammer-Discusses-Cancelled-Third-Person-Call-of-Duty-Title.html

wouldn't mind seeing that one be completed, Something different for the franchise.

KingD19
3rd person would have made me snatch it up in a heartbeat.

Zack Fair
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Smasandian
Even though I know it's going to be another CoD but I do like the future type warfare. I can't think of a lot of frantic shooters that have that type of setting.

Zack Fair
The graphics look really good and I like the gameplay. Wonder how all the additions and changes will workout in M, and if these changes will either make the franchise grow(is that even possible?) or piss off every single player.

dadudemon
Originally posted by BackFire
They actually changed quite a bit with Ghosts. They changed the way you level up, changed the way loadouts work, change the way you get new weapons. All of these changes didn't really work out very weoo. However, they also changed killstreaks and scaled them back, which was the one really good change they did in Ghosts. Unfortunately they also borked up the maps. There's a lot of bad maps in Ghosts. Many are too big and too open. You can go too long without encountering an enemy. Of course large maps like this also give way to annoying games where everyone is sniping. Most of the maps just don't flow as well as they did in Blops 2.

They really should stop with the annual releases. They won't - it's free money, but if they care about the longevity of the series they should. I think a bi-annual COD game would be good.

This post nicely sums up my thoughts, as well.

I really really really hate how wide open and large the maps are on Ghosts.

My son loved that single player, which is nice, I guess. I was shocked at the language, though...a bit rough for a 10 year old boy, imo.

Smasandian
I wonder if that was on purpose to compete with Battlefield.

I enjoy CoD single player. It's always a good 4-5 hours of fun. I always get Nov 11th off so I always get a day to run through the it.

Arachnid1
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/30/zombies-mode-leaked-in-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare

And just like that, I'm interested. This comes out next week, and it just managed to get onto my radar with this leak.

Zombies is back!

Zack Fair
Nice. I got this for PS4. Download half way finished

Arachnid1
Oh cop out. After some research, I've found that its a extra wave in exo survival mode.

Its not the actual zombies mode. Hype instantly gone.

Thank god. Now I can use that money for the Master Chief collection

dadudemon
How is this game, Zack?

I thoroughly enjoyed Black Ops 2. I don't care about single player. big grin

Zack Fair
Originally posted by dadudemon
How is this game, Zack?

I thoroughly enjoyed Black Ops 2. I don't care about single player. big grin Haven't played it yet. Gotta wait until tuesday 12 am. I haven't seen much. To be honest I don't care much about CoD campaigns after Modern Warfare/2/BLOPs1 I saw some campaign footage and it looked visually stunning. Not sure how the MP will look. There have been some additions to the meta game that will change the way we play the game. Such as added verticality. THis can be either really good because it will add a much needed breath of fresh air, or it will split the fanbase and piss off a lot of old school fanboys like Reach did with Halo.

Either way I don't care.Originally posted by Arachnid1
Oh cop out. After some research, I've found that its a extra wave in exo survival mode.

Its not the actual zombies mode. Hype instantly gone.

Thank god. Now I can use that money for the Master Chief collection Give me your GT now. 131

Arachnid1
Turns out they are adding zombies mode.

As paid DLC. :/

For years, its been included in vanilla. Now they're using it as a bargaining chip to force their customers into buying their sh*tty DLC. F*cking stupid.

I miss Treyarch.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/03/cod-advanced-warfare-season-pass-confirms-zombies-mode

And I just sent you my gamertag Zack!

KingD19
As they aren't Treyarch, and this game isn't Black Ops, them making Zombies a free part of the game would have been nice, but not necessary on their end as they aren't Treyarch and this isn't Black Ops 3.

Zack Fair
thumb up

Good Arachnid.

I was wrong. I can play this today. Will be doing the campaign. Will probably beat it in 5 hours. Will give input later.

Zack Fair
I'm liking the campaign thus far. Not sure if it is because it has been a while since I last played a heavily scripted campaign like CoD or if I'm just having too much fun with the way the exo suit makes scripted events much cooler.

Looks good too. Not BF4esque good, but the 60 FPS make up for it.

Impediment
My wife is going to pick this up for me today while I'm at work.

More than likely, my job on the oil field will rain out today or tomorrow due to Hurricane Vance creeping up from the Pacific towards Texas. I'll have plenty of time to play the campaign first and then multi. I'm actually pretty excited for this game, and all of my friends have been raving about it.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by KingD19
As they aren't Treyarch, and this game isn't Black Ops, them making Zombies a free part of the game would have been nice, but not necessary on their end as they aren't Treyarch and this isn't Black Ops 3. I'm not following this line of reasoning.

Yes, its not Treyarch, but it is the same exact same franchise. This franchise has always included zombies in the vanilla game, and sold more maps for it as paid DLC. It was a tried and true formula. The new company coming in, removing it, and selling it as paid DLC is plain bullshit, and a slap to everyone who's been playing zombies for years.

KingD19
Originally posted by Arachnid1
I'm not following this line of reasoning.

Yes, its not Treyarch, but it is the same exact same franchise. This franchise has always included zombies in the vanilla game, and sold more maps for it as paid DLC. It was a tried and true formula. The new company coming in, removing it, and selling it as paid DLC is plain bullshit, and a slap to everyone who's been playing zombies for years.

It's still Call of Duty. But it's not Call of Duty: World at War/Black Ops. And the company is not Treyarch.

If Treyarch had made this game and put zombies as paid DLC I'd be really upset as they've made it included for 3 titles over the span of 4 years. So at this point people rightfully expect zombies to be in the game and for free, but from Treyarch.

But this is Sledgehammer, not Treyarch. They aren't even obligated to put Zombies in the game as Zombies is a Treyarch thing. But since they did put it in, they also aren't obligated to make it part of the game purchase.

Is it a dick move to bring back a much loved mode that Treyarch perfected, then make bonus cash by making it paid DLC? Absolutely. But this isn't Treyarch, and it's not Infnity Ward(Ghosts) with the zombie-esque Extinction mode.

The point is, you can't expect one company to follow the model of another to the letter just because they had a working formula. They saw an opportunity to make more money and they took it.

Smasandian
Doesn't matter who developed it because Activision makes the decisions on what to include in every Call of Duty game.

For instance, I have no problem if they don't release a zombies mode (never really got into it) but if they do as paid DLC then it's bullshit.

Usually, Treyarch games included Zombies while IW games included Spec Op's missions.

Impediment
Picked up my copy for PS4 last night and played for about 90 minutes on both campaign and multiplayer.

Some people on MP are already prestiged. I don't know if that's sad or skill or both.

Anyway, the game is solid. I plan to absorb myself in this game this weekend.

Zack Fair
Campaign was solid, although it doesn't ever stray away from the formula. Having said that Kevin Spicey was godlike in it.

BlackZero30x
So this guy I know wasn't home last night but his cousin was playing advanced warefare(not the digital copy) and was split screening using my friends gamertag as the second player. After he was done playing he got his disc and shut off the system. This morning my friend wakes up turns on his system and sees Advanced Warefare on a tab showing he has played it. Thinking this was weird he clicked it and it installed the digital copy for free. Lucky @$$hole lol

Zack Fair
Possible exploit right there mmm

Impediment
Jesus, I SUCK at this game, but it's still a lot of fun.

Some of these CoD veteran players are TOO GOOD. F*ck's sake, man, put down the controller once in a while! Ha ha.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Campaign was solid, although it doesn't ever stray away from the formula. So it's ass?

KingD19
Originally posted by Impediment
Jesus, I SUCK at this game, but it's still a lot of fun.

Some of these CoD veteran players are TOO GOOD. F*ck's sake, man, put down the controller once in a while! Ha ha.

Tell me you're on XB1. I'll school you son. big grin

Impediment
PS4.

KingD19
Damn. Too bad. I wanted to show you how us vets really get down. 28-1 on a bad day.

dadudemon
Originally posted by KingD19
Damn. Too bad. I wanted to show you how us vets really get down. 28-1 on a bad day.

I always dominate like a motherf*cker on new CoD games. It's because I can memorize the maps in 1 or 2 plays and people are still running around, like idiots, while I kill them. smile

When people start learning the maps, though, I don't do super amazing but I am definitely above average even among veteran players.

Gonna get the XIM4. no expression

So tired of controllers when I want a keyboard and mouse.

Tzeentch
Why not get it for PC?

I probably would if my rig could run it.

ares834
Hackers.

KingD19
Originally posted by dadudemon
I always dominate like a motherf*cker on new CoD games. It's because I can memorize the maps in 1 or 2 plays and people are still running around, like idiots, while I kill them. smile

When people start learning the maps, though, I don't do super amazing but I am definitely above average even among veteran players.

Gonna get the XIM4. no expression

So tired of controllers when I want a keyboard and mouse.

I basically just have really good twitch reflexes and I use my Turtle Beach headphones to the fullest of their potential. I usually hear anybody before they get too close. Besides that, even if you run, watch your corners and be ready to duck. It'll save your life. A lot.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why not get it for PC?

I probably would if my rig could run it.

And what Ares said. Even on the consoles hacking is still a problem like in MW3 I played a guy who was invisible. He went 45-1 in the match, and I only killed him because I heard his footsteps and saw a red name just floating in the air.

On PC they've got stuff like wireframe mods where you can see people through walls and stuff so people go like 50-0 every time because they know people are coming.

Smasandian
I'm looking forward to next Tuesday (I get Nov 11th off for Remembrance Day) and I always play the new CoD that day.

Doing it this year!

I also feel like playing the MP. I haven't played CoD MP in a very long time. Will probably be murdered a thousand times.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Why not get it for PC?

I probably would if my rig could run it.

None of my friends play on PC. Seems like hardly anyone plays on PC, really.

sad

Smasandian
I do. Don't touch the console versions. Call Of Duty was an PC game....years ago.

Wei Phoenix
Am I the only one who thinks this game is crappy? The campaign was boring and generic. Online, at least for the PS3 is completely laggy, I'm not really a fan of many of the perks, the game has temporary clothing items that disappear after a certain time, I find that to be stupid since they don't give you any boosts or anything. What is the point of giving me some goggles that I can only wear for 30 minutes?

I will say that I love the new mode Search and Rescue. I'm not really a fan of the Exo suits either. The maps are horrendous and they all feel the same. They're all big squares/circles with every path pointing to the center.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Am I the only one who thinks this game is crappy? The campaign was boring and generic. Online, at least for the PS3 is completely laggy, I'm not really a fan of many of the perks, the game has temporary clothing items that disappear after a certain time, I find that to be stupid since they don't give you any boosts or anything. What is the point of giving me some goggles that I can only wear for 30 minutes?

I will say that I love the new mode Search and Rescue. I'm not really a fan of the Exo suits either. The maps are horrendous and they all feel the same. They're all big squares/circles with every path pointing to the center. I thought the campaign was fun.

I'm digging the exo suit because it spices up the stale MP. Maps have been like that since MW3. Still..doing somewhat shitty. Been 3 years since I played CoD. Hilarious to crawl back into the multiplayer with the extremely short time to kill. Might get sometime to get used to. No wonder kids get destroyed in Destiny lol.

Wei Phoenix
Spacey and Cormack were the only characters that really stood out for me.

The weapons seem very imbalanced. Shotguns, snipers and Heavy weapons all seemed to do poorly. Online it's AR or bust, especially the BAL. I don't necessarily like the Exo suits because for CoD games I prefer the lack of super movement and cloaking ability. I play Halo and other shooters for that.

Smasandian
Just finished the campaign. I agree with Wei, the guns are all over the place. They are so generic. In my opinion, they all feel the same and look the same as well (except for the M14 and AK). Wasn't very impressed with them.

But.....the grenades are awesome. It felt like each type of a purpose and there were scenarios that allowed you to change the grenade type up. I thought it was pretty cool(took nearly 3/4 of the campaign to really get comfortable and automatic when changing the grendades).

The missions are fun. I felt like the middle part of the campaign had some excellent structure and were very fun, especially the level where you get some freedom to sneak around. As well, the Antartica level was also stellar. But.....the last few missions were mediocre, especially the last two. I was bored and the devs seriously need to stop having the same ****ing objective over the last 10ish games and have us disable some sort of AA gun.....

Overall, it was a fun game but I really think they need to step away from the "follow me" script and give us some ****ing freedom. Also, why can't we have a setup area that allows us to run through the weapons range, grenade range and test out weapons......

Tzeentch
> Call of Duty

> "Too generic"

> "Too linear"

> "Assault rifles better than everything else"

Zack Fair
Assault Rifle master race. People need to get over it. They also need to stop hating on Shotguns.

Tzeentch
Just be thankful CoD shotties don't operate like Halo's does... lol.

Nemesis X
Blaxel, I think you mean Gears of War's shotties. Those are the worst. The ones in Halo and CoD gave me less headaches.

Tzeentch
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/blaxican_templar/callofdutyadvancedwarfare_zps559767de.jpg~original


Is this real? haermm

Zack Fair
yep 131

Nemesis X
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Arachnid1
http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/01/26/ign-live-presents-first-look-at-call-of-dutys-havoc-dlc

Cut to 1:12:30 for zombies.

It's perfect. They got it perfect.

Kazenji
This game is a weird one

i brought the game physical, I pop it into the PS4 and it says i don't have enough space, Yet i have over 800 GB....

So i deleted some games which i haven't used, The game decides to install...no expression

Jmanghan
This game sucks.

Its one of the worst CODs ever made.

Kazenji
As much flak Infinite Warfare got before it got released, I've been enjoying that one.

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