Yoda and Mace Windu Vs Palpatine(RotS)

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Fated Xtasy
what if the two most powerful Jedi masters of the Clone wars went in together to arrest the dreaded dark lord and fought in a Lightsaber only fight, NO prep, NO nexus, just an all out sword fight like on Corousant, who would win win Palpatine or the Jedi masters?

CHAOS GRIZZLY
Sidious solos.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by CHAOS GRIZZLY
Sidious solos.
you and me obviously don't get along due to my being Ant's friend and maybe even some other reason, but if we could both put that aside for a second, at least for today, could you please tell me your reasoning for sidious' soloing of Mace and Yoda?

CHAOS GRIZZLY
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
you and me obviously don't get along due to my being Ant's friend and maybe even some other reason, but if we could both put that aside for a second, at least for today, could you please tell me your reasoning for sidious' soloing of Mace and Yoda?
No, no, and no.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by CHAOS GRIZZLY
No, no, and no. you're such a troll you know that, still there is a certain charm to you and your bull, still your trolling amuses me even when I'm on the receiving end. whatever your reasons for trolling, I hold neither contempt nor anger towards you jack, if anything you've kinda grown on me.... like a tumor.

CHAOS GRIZZLY
lol

Galan007
Jedi stomp.

carthage
Likely the Jedi if they fight him at once.

DarthAnt66
If it's pure lightsaber combat, Mace can't use Vaapad's effects, and he goes down very quickly. Then it's just Sidious and Yoda, which can go either way.

Lord Stark
Yoda alone would has the advantage against Palpatine in his office imo. Throwing in Mace makes this massively unfair.

NewGuy01
Why can't Mace use Vaapad in a lightsaber duel? Sounds silly to me.

PTforthewin
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If it's pure lightsaber combat, Mace can't use Vaapad's effects, and he goes down very quickly. Then it's just Sidious and Yoda, which can go either way. mace disarmed sidious and then kicked him down and could have killed the emporer if it wasn't for anakin and plot convenience.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by PTforthewin
mace disarmed sidious and then kicked him down and could have killed the emporer if it wasn't for anakin and plot convenience.
there's a lot of evidence of Palpatine holding back against Mace, according to Nephthys and a few other sources

PTforthewin
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
there's a lot of evidence of Palpatine holding back against Mace, according to Nephthys and a few other sources movie canon is higher then the novel. and it looked a lot like windu was winning and palpatine was trying.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
If it's pure lightsaber combat, Mace can't use Vaapad's effects, and he goes down very quickly. Then it's just Sidious and Yoda, which can go either way.
On that tangent, Sidious can't empower himself with force speed.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Why can't Mace use Vaapad in a lightsaber duel? Sounds silly to me.

Vapaad's no longer canon.

Darth Martin
Both are superior swordsmen to Palpatine. He gets raped.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Vapaad's no longer canon.

By that logic so is the idea that Mace can't compete with Sidious without it.

Based
Originally posted by NewGuy01
By that logic so is the idea that Mace can't compete with Sidious without it.

And we can throw away Palpatine throwing the fight theories because that's not even implied once during the movie.

Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Galan007
Jedi stomp.

WildBantha88
I hold neither contempt nor anger towards you jack, if anything you've kinda grown on me.... like a tumor.

Chaos Grizzly is Jack?

carthage
Yes he is

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Chaos Grizzly is Jack?
Yeah, our friendly neighborhood troll's. Interped account was banned after the mods saw that he was spamming porn in some threads.

WildBantha88
hahaha good old jack, couldn't handle 4 people leaving his forum so he spams porn. He has a certain charm about him

CHAOS GRIZZLY
Proof that I spammed porn?

WildBantha88
twas either you or sith, doesn't matter. Btw my mom was looking at the computer screen when i scrolled down into the porn, so thanks because that was really fun explaining to her.

DarthAnt66
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Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by WildBantha88
hahaha good old jack, couldn't handle 4 people leaving his forum so he spams porn. He has a certain charm about him http://forums.riftgame.com/attachments/pvp-warfronts/10105d1301954626t-one-fight-6k-plat-ok-what-media_preview.jpg If by charm, you mean life less f'uck then yes he is quite charming....

WildBantha88
twas sarcasm

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by WildBantha88
twas sarcasm http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg

I know, dude...I know..i..was..also..being..sarcastic

CHAOS GRIZZLY
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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@ Darthsith : ant is gona
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@ Jack : give him power lol
@ Darthsith : agreed lol
@ Darthsith : dude why the ****
@ Darthsith : are emperor and flash on KMC?
@ Darthsith : makes no sense
@ Jack : flash made it in august last year dude
@ Jack : emperor just made his account
@ Jack : a fewdays ago
@ Jack : ant told him to do so lol
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KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait..... why is Vaapad no longer canon?

That makes Mace even more powerful than since he then can compete with Sidious without Vaapad and he's literally just that good and fast... Okay... sounds good to me

DarthAnt66
Vaapad is canon.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wait..... why is Vaapad no longer canon?

That makes Mace even more powerful than since he then can compete with Sidious without Vaapad and he's literally just that good and fast... Okay... sounds good to me


Yeah after Sidious Blitz 3 other Council Members first.

And don't kid yourself, Yoda still failed to defeat Sidious, who is as per Lucas more powerful than Mace.

So clearly Mace beating Sidious was either due to a serious clash of styles akin to Skywalker > Dooku >> Kenobi = Skywalker,

OR

It was simply a one off under those specific circumstances.


Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vaapad is canon.


How? It's an EU concept.

Based
Originally posted by DARTH POWER


And don't kid yourself, Yoda still failed to defeat Sidious, who is as per Lucas more powerful than Mace.


And Sidious didn't kill Yoda either but everyone conveniently ignores this.

carthage
He didn't kill Yoda, because Yoda ran like a *****.

JediMaster97
Originally posted by Based
And Sidious didn't kill Yoda either but everyone conveniently ignores this.

Actually, Sidious was the one who tried to stay away from Yoda. And what was Yoda supposed to do after he fell? He was to far away from Sidious and he had to escape when the clones started to search for him.

It was a draw at best.

Nephthys
I personally think Yoda would have lost eventually. Sidious would win out in through endurance imo. Yoda's fighting style uses up a lot of energy and he's older and more frail than Sidious is.

Based
Originally posted by carthage
He didn't kill Yoda, because Yoda ran like a *****.

"If so powerful you are, why leave?" Yeah Sidious is so badass here too.

PTforthewin
Originally posted by Based
"If so powerful you are, why leave?" Yeah Sidious is so badass here too. yoda is more arrogant then revan ,dooku, and anakin combined

carthage
Originally posted by Based
"If so powerful you are, why leave?" Yeah Sidious is so badass here too.

So what? He still beat Yoda in the end. He made him run like a *****. He's beaten him in every encounter they've ever fought in, whether it was his dream sequence, the fight, etc. He is stronger and better than Yoda.

Darth Martin
Disagree. If anything they tied in ROTS and the dream sequence Sidious only had the upper hand due to circumstance with Anakin being there.

Sidious was the one trying to leave, acting frustrated, and having the "Oh, shit!" look on his face throughout the fight. It's fair to assess that Yoda is a superior swordsmen due to either A.Palpatine was disarmed or B.He felt he couldn't best Yoda in a duel so he switched tactics to using the Force.

Palpatine may have stronger offensive Force powers but Yoda can hang. He's showed that he can counter his lightning with considerable effort.

Yoda and Palpatine as of ROTS are roughly equals with Palpatine perhaps having slightly more power in the Force and Yoda being a pretty reasonably superior swordsmen.

Adding Mace who is the second strongest Force-wielding Jedi and arguably the greatest duelist of the PT, who has already defeated Palpatine in lightsaber combat in his own right would guarantee death for Palpatine.

JediMaster97
Originally posted by carthage
So what? He still beat Yoda in the end. He made him run like a *****. He's beaten him in every encounter they've ever fought in, whether it was his dream sequence, the fight, etc. He is stronger and better than Yoda.

*facepalm*

Nalaniel
Originally posted by carthage
He didn't kill Yoda, because Yoda ran like a *****.

How was he supposed to win against Sidious and the Clones? He had to run.

CactusJoe
Originally posted by Jaggarath
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@ Darthsith : kmc user and info
@ Darthsith : yo
@ Jack : here
@ Jack : it is
@ Jack : Username: DestroyeOfWind Password: 55619902
@ Darthsith : nice HAHAHAHAHHA
@ Jack : lol
@ Jack : bwahahha
@ Darthsith : dude
@ Darthsith : ant is gona
@ Darthsith : BEG WATCH
@ Jack : yes LOL
@ Jack : dont ever
@ Darthsith : yo
@ Jack : give him power lol
@ Darthsith : agreed lol
@ Darthsith : dude why the ****
@ Darthsith : are emperor and flash on KMC?
@ Darthsith : makes no sense
@ Jack : flash made it in august last year dude
@ Jack : emperor just made his account
@ Jack : a fewdays ago
@ Jack : ant told him to do so lol
@ Darthsith : wtf
@ Darthsith : flash needs
@ Darthsith : to be more well KNOWN
@ Darthsith : TO POST LINKS
@ Jack : yes LOL
@ Darthsith : we have
@ Darthsith : markaragnos lol
@ Jack : LMAO
@ Jack : lets have two tho
@ Jack : yo
@ Jack : gtg man
@ Jack : lets spam
@ Jack : tomorrow tho
@ Jack : a few hours before this time
@ Jack : peace
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quanchi112
Originally posted by carthage
So what? He still beat Yoda in the end. He made him run like a *****. He's beaten him in every encounter they've ever fought in, whether it was his dream sequence, the fight, etc. He is stronger and better than Yoda. He was still cowardly and eventually barely got the better of him. He is Yodas equal in power. more cunning sure but not better with sabers either.

gold slorg
yoda was even noted in the script to disarm palpatine

imo yoda > palpatine in sabers since lucas

quanchi112
Originally posted by gold slorg
yoda was even noted in the script to disarm palpatine

imo yoda > palpatine in sabers since lucas Yodais better with sabers I agree. Equal power I give Sidious the edge in cunning and he used that to gain the advantage on the **** up yoda. Even as a ghost yoda still would get erections just thinking about evolving through failure.

Meatpants
Didn't Gillard say that with tier 9's, it came down to environment, and that Yoda had the advantage there in the podium? Not sure if I recall correctly, though.

NewGuy01
Gillard did say that about tier 9 fighters. I don't think he said anything about Yoda being in a position of advantage on the podium, although it's probably true.

Meatpants
Yeah, as I said, not entirely sure. Though it should be remembered that Sidious has fought two saber fights in a decade and nothing else, whereas Yoda presumably sparred often and fought actively in the clone wars. Sidious still retained his skill as a tier 9 duelist despite doing basically nothing to do with dueling for a decade.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Meatpants
Yeah, as I said, not entirely sure. Though it should be remembered that Sidious has fought two saber fights in a decade and nothing else, whereas Yoda presumably sparred often and fought actively in the clone wars. Sidious still retained his skill as a tier 9 duelist despite doing basically nothing to do with dueling for a decade. Speculative nonsense.

Freedon Nadd
It is like this post was written to trigger quan.

RealistRacism
Either of the two solo 8-9/10 individually, together they stomp lmao.

CactusJoe
Originally posted by Yellowfin
No, no, and no.
LMAO

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