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Both DCnU. Who's the true most powerful being on DC Earth.

Constantine stomps.

The only way Superman could possibly defeat Constantine is if he were to speedblitz right out of the gate(John hasn't yet displayed a counter to super-speed.) Sans Clark stepping WAY out of character, however, Constantine wins. Every. Single. Time.

One word/gesture is all it would take. Literally.

I think John could counter a blitz via that dimension phase thing he did to Frankenstein's sword. But, yeah, John's been pretty crazy lately.

When he dead fished Frank with one word was probably one of the best DCnU combat feats yet.

It's possible that he could counter super-speed based on that pocket dimension stunt he pulled--still very debatable, though... Not that Superman(especially the DCnU iteration) has shown an affinity for speedblitzing, though. It's still WAY out of character for him.

Yeah, that was a particularly uber feat for Constantine, given some of the immensely powerful forces that Frank has shown immunity to thus far(namely a BlackBomb and The Rot.) ie. one syllable from Constantine>>>a universal force of nature. Lulz.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/JC_zpseb154650.jpg

I'd be absolutely shocked if DCnU Constantine didn't also have a similar type of spell in place.

Constantine has intel on every hero/villain on the earth. Or at least most of them. He should have protective measures against pretty much all of them. Cause that's how Constantine rolls.

I agree.

As for the question posed in the OP: excluding the cosmic/abstract-type, Constantine is the most powerful 'hero' on DC earth. Give him prep, and he becomes the most powerful being of them all. IMHO.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Constantine has intel on every hero/villain on the earth. Or at least most of them. He should have protective measures against pretty much all of them. Cause that's how Constantine rolls.
Originally posted by Galan007
I agree.

As for the question posed in the OP: excluding the cosmic/abstract-type, Constantine is the most powerful 'hero' on DC earth. Give him prep, and he becomes the most powerful being of them all. IMHO.


More talk like this and you guys will bring out he who shall not be named.









































Abhimort.

Superman blasts his head off.

/Thread

Constantine in a spite stomp

It would be good to see Constantine beating Doomsday.

vin

Superman just nearly broke the hemisphere while being severely weakened. I haven't yet seen Constantine pull off such a stunt.

Constantine snaps his fingers and Superman gets banished into the Phantom Zone.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's possible that he could counter super-speed based on that pocket dimension stunt he pulled--still very debatable, though... Not that Superman(especially the DCnU iteration) has shown an affinity for speedblitzing, though. It's still WAY out of character for him.

Yeah, that was a particularly uber feat for Constantine, given some of the immensely powerful forces that Frank has shown immunity to thus far(namely a BlackBomb and The Rot.) ie. one syllable from Constantine>>>a universal force of nature. Lulz.
Superman has blitzed several times in DCnU.

http://i.imgur.com/QN3MtgV.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3709117-2014-03-19+07-36-22+-+superman+unchained+%282013-%29+006-016.jpg

Such a blitz would phuck Constantine up.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Constantine snaps his fingers and Superman gets banished into the Phantom Zone.
Before or after Superman snaps his neck?

This is in character. When was the last time Supes snaped someones neck?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It would be good to see Constantine beating Doomsday.

vin

Superman just nearly broke the hemisphere while being severely weakened. I haven't yet seen Constantine pull off such a stunt.

Originally posted by Golgo13
This is in character. When was the last time Supes snaped someones neck?
Man of steel.

ha-somOriginally posted by JBL

Superman got your tongue?

Lol, anyone who thinks that Superman would EVER speedblitz right out of the gate in a CIS-on/non-bloodlusted environment is a complete idiot.

But yeah, Constantine owns Frankenstein with a single word, AND Superman is weak to magic.... Yet Superman is still beyond him, somehow. ElOhEl, absolutely ridiculous.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, anyone who thinks that Superman would EVER speedblitz right out of the gate in a CIS-on/non-bloodlusted environment is a complete idiot.

But yeah, Constantine owns Frankenstein with a single word, AND Superman is weak to magic.... Yet Superman is still beyond him, somehow. ElOhEl, absolutely ridiculous.
EVER?



Anyway there are as much chances of constantine beating Superman with a single word in a comic as Superman blowing his head off with an HV attack right out of the bat. Neither scenario is particularly likely. Frank is good, he isn't Superman though. Heck for all the supposed immunity to this and that, a tazer from Batman owned the **** out of him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has blitzed several times in DCnU.

http://i.imgur.com/QN3MtgV.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3709117-2014-03-19+07-36-22+-+superman+unchained+%282013-%29+006-016.jpg

Such a blitz would phuck Constantine up. Those are blitzs??? Kind of slow and the foe reacted quite well to that sneak attack and bull rush.

Originally posted by JBL
Those are blitzs??? Kind of slow and the foe reacted quite well to that sneak attack and bull rush.
Yeah those were speedblitzes. Parasite was draining Superman and Wraith is well..... wraith.

Oh and Superman shattered Phantom Stranger's body with one shot. Stranger bitchsmacked Consantine.

Oh yeah, I forgot. We can only list Constantine's high end feats here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It would be good to see Constantine beating Doomsday.

vin

Superman just nearly broke the hemisphere while being severely weakened. I haven't yet seen Constantine pull off such a stunt.

"Constantine has owned nearly everything he's come across ut let's see him nearly crack the hemisphere!

Two threads ago:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You mean being butchered and battered by a Trans level opponent or surviving the conditions of a Star (Which I highly doubt Diana can do personally)? Which one do you prefer we ignore exactly?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Both. Getting beaten up isn't a feat or Sodam Yat would be the most badass being ever. Stars and shit are ireelevant.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=594069&pagenumber=2



I like how the value of combat feats vs. cheese feats fluctuate from thread to thread.

Originally posted by abhilegend
EVER?



Anyway there are as much chances of constantine beating Superman with a single word in a comic as Superman blowing his head off with an HV attack right out of the bat. Neither scenario is particularly likely. Frank is good, he isn't Superman though. Heck for all the supposed immunity to this and that, a tazer from Batman owned the **** out of him.



Frank beat a guy that Superman himself said was physically stronger than him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"Constantine has owned nearly everything he's come across ut let's see him nearly crack the hemisphere!

Two threads ago:



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=594069&pagenumber=2



I like how the value of combat feats vs. cheese feats fluctuate from thread to thread.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"Constantine has owned nearly everything he's come across ut let's see him nearly crack the hemisphere!

Two threads ago:



http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=594069&pagenumber=2



I like how the value of combat feats vs. cheese feats fluctuate from thread to thread.
facepalm

I was using man of steel as a reference one post after that. Suffice to say I wasn't so serious with those. But yeah, post a combat feat as good as this for Constantine.

http://postimg.org/image/q7v7ca7nd/
http://postimg.org/image/nrxzc6eyh/
http://postimg.org/image/bztu2tf4v/

I just noticed he bitchsmacked ****ing Phantom Stranger and broke his force field like a twig. But yeah, Constantine is just going to own him.

Originally posted by carver9
Frank beat a guy that Superman himself said was physically stronger than him.
And? Superman says a lot of things. Frank has a few good feats but treating him like he's ****ing Doomsday or something is retarded.

http://i.imgur.com/bBQteYp.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

I was using man of steel as a reference one post after that. Suffice to say I wasn't so serious with those. But yeah, post a combat feat as good as this for Constantine.

http://postimg.org/image/q7v7ca7nd/
http://postimg.org/image/nrxzc6eyh/
http://postimg.org/image/bztu2tf4v/

I just noticed he bitchsmacked ****ing Phantom Stranger and broke his force field like a twig. But yeah, Constantine is just going to own him.



Yes, you were clearly joking. You can tell by the obvious humor.

That was sarcasm by the way. I don't want you getting confused.

I don't really care who wins this particular thread, but based on the scans I've seen posted, Constatine would b*tch stomp Superman into the ground if we compared combat records. Superman had a great feat against the Phantom Stranger* but Constatine's overall track record is amazing, and some of the legitimately terrible magical encounters Superman has had brings him down.

*Superman was amped by the hope/power of million of believers which is why he is so effective against the Stranger, so it's not really relevant here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? Superman says a lot of things. Frank has a few good feats but treating him like he's ****ing Doomsday or something is retarded.

http://i.imgur.com/bBQteYp.jpg

He didn't only SAY it, OMAC was literally overpowering him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
in a comic a.) This isn't an in-comic battle, thus your opinion of how the aforementioned might play out in said media is entirely irrelevant.

b.) Constantine is pretty much the most powerful magic-user in DC:
http://imgur.com/CWfsZyM
"Your strength. It's unprecedented."

c.) DCnU Superman is vulnerable to magic:
http://imgur.com/8C48tNp


d.) Frankenstein is an excellent character in which to gauge the potency of John's magics...

-Frank was immune to a fundamental force of death/deterioration(The Rot itself):
http://imgur.com/idznrAm
http://imgur.com/wJUrIB2
http://imgur.com/GBfpTbt
http://imgur.com/FXWBIjs
"Frankenstein does NOT Rot!!!"

-Displays immunity to The Rot on yet another occasion:
http://imgur.com/qhUm7Kn
http://imgur.com/ms11n2q
http://imgur.com/tZQlsg1
http://imgur.com/ybGVaj4
http://imgur.com/nGyMhZG
http://imgur.com/OLXWWLu

-Frank was also immune to a 'BlackBomb'--tech so powerful that it was capable of atomizing The Rot incarnate:
http://imgur.com/jbezdlY
http://imgur.com/GnGynlg
http://imgur.com/TUCaXyN
http://imgur.com/Z3Q0E7I
http://imgur.com/qIzPdzI

-Frank was even immune to the magical effects of the cross-dimensional planet called "Epoch"--effects of which were potent enough to affect Constantine himself(among several others):
http://imgur.com/BeEY6V0
http://imgur.com/flHb9gC


e.) Frankenstein's retardedly haxxed resistance to extremely potent forces is important because Consantine wtf-pwned him with a single word:
http://imgur.com/NblsTxa


So yeah, barring Superman stepping WAY out of character and blitzing immediately after the battle begins, Constantine wins every single time in a spitey fashion. Not even debatable.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, you were clearly joking. You can tell by the obvious humor.

That was sarcasm by the way. I don't want you getting confused.

I don't really care who wins this particular thread, but based on the scans I've seen posted, Constatine would b*tch stomp Superman into the ground if we compared combat records. Superman had a great feat against the Phantom Stranger* but Constatine's overall track record is amazing, and some of the legitimately terrible magical encounters Superman has had brings him down.

*Superman was amped by the hope/power of million of believers which is why he is so effective against the Stranger, so it's not really relevant here.
Of course you can. Its evident in everything.

Like you could ever do something like that.

Heh, we could always see the combat records of everyone against Superman and Constantine have fought directly. Ready?

And no, you repeating that ****ing same thing doesn't changes anything about him being "amped". Give it a rest already.

And Superman would bitchstomp Constantine, not the other way around. Its not vertigo Constantine anymore, this is just a shell of that character now.

Originally posted by Galan007
a.) This isn't an in-comic battle, thus your opinion of how the aforementioned might play out in said media is entirely irrelevant.

b.) Constantine is pretty much the most powerful magic-user in DC:
http://imgur.com/CWfsZyM
"Your strength. It's unprecedented."

c.) DCnU Superman is vulnerable to magic:
http://imgur.com/8C48tNp


d.) Frankenstein is an excellent character in which to gauge the potency of John's magics...

-Frank was immune to a fundamental force of death/deterioration(The Rot itself):
http://imgur.com/idznrAm
http://imgur.com/wJUrIB2
http://imgur.com/GBfpTbt
http://imgur.com/FXWBIjs
"Frankenstein does NOT Rot!!!"

-Displays immunity to The Rot on yet another occasion:
http://imgur.com/qhUm7Kn
http://imgur.com/ms11n2q
http://imgur.com/tZQlsg1
http://imgur.com/ybGVaj4
http://imgur.com/nGyMhZG
http://imgur.com/OLXWWLu

-Frank was also immune to a 'BlackBomb'--tech so powerful that it was capable of atomizing The Rot incarnate:
http://imgur.com/jbezdlY
http://imgur.com/GnGynlg
http://imgur.com/TUCaXyN
http://imgur.com/Z3Q0E7I
http://imgur.com/qIzPdzI

-Frank was even immune to the magical effects of the cross-dimensional planet called "Epoch"--effects of which were potent enough to affect Constantine himself(among several others):
http://imgur.com/BeEY6V0
http://imgur.com/flHb9gC


e.) Frankenstein's retardedly haxxed resistance to extremely potent forces is important because Consantine wtf-pwned him with a single word:
http://imgur.com/NblsTxa


So yeah, unless barring Superman stepping WAY out of character and blitzing immediately after the battle begins, Constantine wins every single time in a spitey fashion. Not even debatable.

OWNED!!! Next post, the magical teeth.

Originally posted by Galan007
a.) This isn't an in-comic battle, thus your opinion of how the aforementioned might play out in said media is entirely irrelevant.

b.) Constantine is pretty much the most powerful magic-user in DC:
http://imgur.com/CWfsZyM
"Your strength. It's unprecedented."

c.) DCnU Superman is vulnerable to magic:
http://imgur.com/8C48tNp


d.) Frankenstein is an excellent character in which to gauge the potency of John's magics...

-Frank was immune to a fundamental force of death/deterioration(The Rot itself):
http://imgur.com/idznrAm
http://imgur.com/wJUrIB2
http://imgur.com/GBfpTbt
http://imgur.com/FXWBIjs
"Frankenstein does NOT Rot!!!"

-Displays immunity to The Rot on yet another occasion:
http://imgur.com/qhUm7Kn
http://imgur.com/ms11n2q
http://imgur.com/tZQlsg1
http://imgur.com/ybGVaj4
http://imgur.com/nGyMhZG
http://imgur.com/OLXWWLu

-Frank was also immune to a 'BlackBomb'--tech so powerful that it was capable of atomizing The Rot incarnate:
http://imgur.com/jbezdlY
http://imgur.com/GnGynlg
http://imgur.com/TUCaXyN
http://imgur.com/Z3Q0E7I
http://imgur.com/qIzPdzI

-Frank was even immune to the magical effects of the cross-dimensional planet called "Epoch"--effects of which were potent enough to affect Constantine himself(among several others):
http://imgur.com/BeEY6V0
http://imgur.com/flHb9gC


e.) Frankenstein's retardedly haxxed resistance to extremely potent forces is important because Consantine wtf-pwned him with a single word:
http://imgur.com/NblsTxa


So yeah, barring Superman stepping WAY out of character and blitzing immediately after the battle begins, Constantine wins every single time in a spitey fashion. Not even debatable. Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

I was using man of steel as a reference one post after that. Suffice to say I wasn't so serious with those. But yeah, post a combat feat as good as this for Constantine.

http://postimg.org/image/q7v7ca7nd/
http://postimg.org/image/nrxzc6eyh/
http://postimg.org/image/bztu2tf4v/

I just noticed he bitchsmacked ****ing Phantom Stranger and broke his force field like a twig. But yeah, Constantine is just going to own him.


So yeah, Superman oneshots him. Or is Constantine more powerful than Phantom Stranger now? In that case, ElohEl.Originally posted by carver9
He didn't only SAY it, OMAC was literally overpowering him.
He wasn't.

Originally posted by carver9
OWNED!!! Next post, the magical teeth.
Heh, never change carver.

...Because somehow, in your world, Superman punching PS and making his nose bleed means Constantine's magics would just bounce off him, right? Lol, Christ Almighty... facepalm

Anyway, in a forum battle, where Superman is fighting in character, he is never beating Constantine. Incontrovertible. However, even IF Supes were to step VASTLY out of character and bum-rush John immediately after the battle commenced, he could simply teleport out of his way then proceed to one-shot him:
http://imgur.com/IbvwXGT
http://imgur.com/o826j6R

...Not that we'd need to worry about that here, though. Like I said: Superman rarely ever blitzes whilst fighting in character.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So yeah, Superman oneshots him. Or is Constantine more powerful than Phantom Stranger now? In that case, ElohEl.
He wasn't.

He wasn't what?

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, anyone who thinks that Superman would EVER speedblitz right out of the gate in a CIS-on/non-bloodlusted environment is a complete idiot.

But yeah, Constantine owns Frankenstein with a single word, AND Superman is weak to magic.... Yet Superman is still beyond him, somehow. ElOhEl, absolutely ridiculous.
Owning C, D, and F listers is great and all but Superman is in a different league.

He doesn't even need to speedblitz that overrated c0cksucker's head off. He could just fry him to death or freeze him solid in less than a second.

Superman wins.

/Thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
...Because somehow, in your world, Superman punching PS and making his nose bleed means Constantine's magics would just bounce off him, right? Lol, Christ Almighty... facepalm

Anyway, in a forum battle, where Superman is fighting in character, he is never beating Constantine. Incontrovertible. However, even IF Supes were to step VASTLY out of character and bum-rush John immediately after the battle commenced, he could simply teleport out of his way then proceed to one-shot him:
http://imgur.com/IbvwXGT
http://imgur.com/o826j6R

...Not that we'd need to worry about that here, though. Like I said: Superman rarely ever blitzes whilst fighting in character.
Nah, him shattering PS's body with one shot implies that he would oneshot Constantine. You are so offended by the mere notion of Constantine losing to superman that he's never going to beat a character with human level durability?

facepalm

And yeah, look how slow Superman is compared to teleporting from Pluto to Earth.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat1y3uc7.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat2xjuyq.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat3x3u20.jpg

Honestly, Superman could finger flick and knock John out. No need to speedblitz or anything. I don't know why the idea is so offensive to you. Constantine is only a human after all. He doesn't has even auto shields to protect him.

And a huge lulz @ Constantine oneshotting Superman. He just recently took blasts from a moon sized uber magical being and was totally fine.

Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't what?
Overpowering Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


*Superman was amped by the hope/power of million of believers which is why he is so effective against the Stranger, so it's not really relevant here.

He wasn't amped by prayer, all it did was allow superman to grasp the metaphysical form of the stranger. It was all of superman's power that shattered him. The PS explained how Superman was able to affect his metaphysical form not the physical. So if superman was able to shatter his physical form using his own power, it stands to reason that he could shatter the metaphysical as long as he had something that allowed him grab it. Like Superboy punching a wall to break dimensional barriers.

What tier would you place the Phantom Stranger?

There are legit instances of trans level characters who were unable to even budge Odin's arm but here superman did the impossible, Phantom Strangers own words and shattered his form when the phantom stranger was ready and waiting to stop superman.
In DC, there is nothing physically impossible for Superman.

As to this thread. If Constantine is ready for superman, he will win as long has he has precautions in place.

But if they get into a ring not knowing who their opponent is, Superman can move faster than thought and can knock him out with a flick of his finger for the win.


Originally posted by Golgo13
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/JC_zpseb154650.jpg
Like in the 3rd panel, what's to stop superman from flicking his finger to ko Constantine instead of just grabbing his arm.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, him shattering PS's body with one shot implies that he would oneshot Constantine. Given the chance, I'm sure Supes could kill Constantine. But since he is fighting in character per forum rules, Supes would simply never get that chance. Simple.

One word and Superman dies, or at the very least is BFR'd. Simple.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Honestly, Superman could finger flick and knock John out. No need to speedblitz or anything. I don't know why the idea is so offensive to you. Constantine is only a human after all. He doesn't has even auto shields to protect him. You are the only one who is getting 'offended'--same adolescent BS you pull in EVERY Superman thread. Stop deflecting.

Tantrums aside: show me how many times a non-bloodlusted/in-character DCnU Superman has speedblitzed his opponent immediately after the battle begins. Given how adamant you are that he'd do something like that right away here, surely there are a plethora of scans to support you, right?

We'll start there.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And a huge lulz @ Constantine oneshotting Superman. Ignoring dozenS of scanS, ftw.

Never change, abhi.

Just for a frame of reference regarding PS, John did have him chained up in his back room.

^ Constantine has also gesturely BFR'd PS on another occasion as though he were a feeb:
http://imgur.com/crvRH7y

...But pretty much everything John's done is being selectively ignored by a few people in this thread. Par for the course, really.

Originally posted by Galan007
Given the chance, I'm sure Supes could kill Constantine. But since he is fighting in character per forum rules, Supes would simply never get that chance. Simple.

One word and Superman dies, or at the very least is BFR'd. Simple.

You are the only one who is getting 'offended'--same adolescent BS you pull in EVERY Superman thread. Stop deflecting.

Tantrums aside: show me how many times a non-bloodlusted/in-character DCnU Superman has speedblitzed his opponent immediately after the battle begins. Given how adamant you are that he'd do something like that right away here, surely there are a plethora of scans to support you, right?

We'll start there.

Ignoring dozenS of scanS, ftw.

Never change, abhi.

I have no doubt that because of superman's weakness to magic, that Constantine can kill him with a word. But superman should be faster than Constantine's thought. IF Constantine doesn't have prep, he shouldn't come ready with magical forcefields erected around him.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Constantine has also gesturely BFR'd PS on another occasion as though he were a feeb:
http://imgur.com/crvRH7y

...But pretty much everything John's done is being selectively ignored by a few people in this thread. Par for the course, really.

I agree Constantine is awesome, he placed those 7 seals on a door that he said even the presence would have had trouble breaking through.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I have no doubt that because of superman's weakness to magic, that Constantine can kill him with a word. But superman should be faster than Constantine's thought. IF Constantine doesn't have prep, he shouldn't come ready with magical forcefields erected around him. Superman should definitely be able to move faster than John's(human) thoughts--not saying otherwise. However, it is a very, very, very rare occurrence for a standard/non-bloodlusted Superman to use his speed in such a way that he blitzes/one-shots his opponent immediately after the battle starts. That's why I have an extremely hard time believing he'd start doing it here for some inextricable reason.

Constantine only needs time to say one word--make one gesture--and the battle is over.

Originally posted by Galan007
Given the chance, I'm sure Supes could kill Constantine. But since he is fighting in character per forum rules, Supes would simply never get that chance. Simple. And why would be that? I posted him blitzing Parasite and Wraith. I could do the same for him doing it against Orion. Simple fact, you're using forum rules as the way you want, not the way the rules are written. Characters fight to the best of their abilities in character and I posted him blitzing in character.

Simply put constantine gets phucked up. And he likes it.



One finger flick and Constantine dies.

Heh, I didn't say Constantine could never beat Superman, did I?

Like wise I could ask you, how may times John has killed or banished a fellow hero with a single word? Superman has blitzed more than that. And the way you are wanking John here, he must've had more than a single showing of beating someone on Superman's level of physical power with one word?

We won't. Not the way you're talking.

Frankenstein isn't in this thread. You could post all the immunity he has to this or that due to his undead nature, it would matter little.

Likewise to you Galan.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman should definitely be able to move faster than John's(human) thoughts--not saying otherwise. However, it is a very, very, very rare occurrence for a standard/non-bloodlusted Superman to use his speed in such a way that he blitzes/one-shots his opponent immediately after the battle starts. That's why I have an extremely hard time believing he'd start doing it here for some inextricable reason.

Constantine only needs time to say one word--make one gesture--and the battle is over.

Totally agree, that one word, gesture and the battle is over. But superman should be aware of this right? if that's the case, superman should be thinking, knock him out before he can speak or raise an arm to make a gesture.
Superman doesn't have to be bloodlusted as long as he knows what's at stake and fights smart. Since this isn't to the death, all he needs is a kO, superman should come out "super fast" and flick his finger for the win.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Constantine has also gesturely BFR'd PS on another occasion as though he were a feeb:
http://imgur.com/crvRH7y

...But pretty much everything John's done is being selectively ignored by a few people in this thread. Par for the course, really.
And stranger has bitchslapped Constantine like a whore.

http://i.imgur.com/Ldwy7JD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9hniWpQ.jpg

After breaking out of chains John conjured.

http://i.imgur.com/0qrlcrn.jpg

That literally made me laugh.

It goes both ways. I don't doubt Constantine could banish Superman, its all he does nowadays. But pretending it will always happen against Superman because Superman is an idiot or something is retarded.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And why would be that? I posted him blitzing Parasite and Wraith. I could do the same for him doing it against Orion. Simple fact, you're using forum rules as the way you want, not the way the rules are written. Characters fight to the best of their abilities in character and I posted him blitzing in character. Nice dodge.

Just as I figured would be the case, you failed to provide any scans of standard/non-bloodlusted Superman blitzing an opponent immediately after the battle began, like I specifically asked for. Although I suppose it was a rhetorical question, because I know such instances do not yet exist.

So in a nutshell: you incessantly acting like Supes would blitz/kill John right after the bell rings and this battle commences, is nothing but completely baseless, opinionated drivel. He's never done it, therefore he won't do it here. Conversely, Constantine has owned multiple characters with a single word/gesture, therefore it is very much in character for him to own Supes with a snap of his fingers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Frankenstein isn't in this thread. You could post all the immunity he has to this or that due to his undead nature, it would matter little. Ah, but it does matter, abhi. The immunity showings are part of Frankenstein's character. This is important because John's magic was powerful enough to supersede Frank's inherent immunity and own the bejesus out of him.

...Although I don't blame you for trying to ignore those showings. All they do is help solidify the fact that Constantine can, and would, one-shot you precious boy-toy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It goes both ways. I don't doubt Constantine could banish Superman, its all he does nowadays. But pretending it will always happen against Superman because Superman is an idiot or something is retarded. I never once said that Superman is 'an idiot'--that's the adolescent BS I referred to earlier putting nonsensical words in my mouth. But yes, it would happen. I've proven why. I've proven how.

This isn't my childlike opinion talking. This is fact talking. Learn from me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, him shattering PS's body with one shot implies that he would oneshot Constantine. You are so offended by the mere notion of Constantine losing to superman that he's never going to beat a character with human level durability?

facepalm

And yeah, look how slow Superman is compared to teleporting from Pluto to Earth.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat1y3uc7.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat2xjuyq.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_speedfeat3x3u20.jpg

Honestly, Superman could finger flick and knock John out. No need to speedblitz or anything. I don't know why the idea is so offensive to you. Constantine is only a human after all. He doesn't has even auto shields to protect him.

And a huge lulz @ Constantine oneshotting Superman. He just recently took blasts from a moon sized uber magical being and was totally fine.


Overpowering Superman.

Lol...Superman face was being pressed against the wall. It was obvious who was stronger and Superman admits this himself after being held up against the wall unwillingly.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nice dodge.

Just as I figured would be the case, you failed to provide any scans of standard/non-bloodlusted Superman blitzing an opponent immediately after the battle began, like I specifically asked for. Although I suppose it was a rhetorical question, because I know such instances do not yet exist. Any scans? He did it right out of the bat here.

http://i.imgur.com/QN3MtgV.jpg

Way to go galan. He did it here too, punch Orion really hard and blitz the **** out of him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15900526/2013-05-22_07-52-56_-_Superman_2011-_020-006.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15900534/2013-05-22_07-53-01_-_Superman_2011-_020-007.jpg.html

John is no Orion.



In a nutshell: you want Constantine to win. So he would. Nothing wrong with that.

He is immune to magic? Because he was immune to Rot specifically because of his undead nature.

Not likely. But you can always dream about your own boy toy.



You've just expressed your opinion without an facts and as always expect everyone to kneel against your wisdom. Sorry bro. You're essentially saying that Superman will never use his speed despite him doing it several times. So yeah either Superman is an idiot IYO or John has Hulk like ability to make everyone as stupid as himself.

Oh the irony.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...Superman face was being pressed against the wall. It was obvious who was stronger and Superman admits this himself after being held up against the wall unwillingly.
Nope. Read the comic again.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Both DCnU. Who's the true most powerful being on DC Earth.
Anyway this is about who is more powerful. I would start the ball rolling with statements.

"Most powerful being on earth."

http://imgur.com/4nGh91j

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y257/butterfingers158/SM7_zps6288b9d7.jpg

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13067013/Superman_Annual-Zone-011.jpg.html

I'm sure Constantine is on earth.

vin

So Constantine teleporting while Spectre tries to cheap shot him doesn't indicate speed?

Maybe Spectre moves at the speed of a turtle I guess

Constantine wins.

What I find funny is that Galan hasn't seen Superman blitzing anybody right off the bat when Superman's very first appearance had him blitzing the shit out of Hal.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/8893084_25.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/8893106_26.jpg


But nope, he never blitzes people.

This thread is designed for an Abhi/Darksaint showdown.

If Abhi wants characters to fight to the BEST of their ability, in character, then all the speed blitz won't work.

Because in character, to the BEST of his ability, John would have prepped. forum rules be damned, he would have auto shields or Wonder Woman trapped in some mystical dimension of the souls of the Kents tied up somewhere.

Constantine wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This thread is designed for an Abhi/Darksaint showdown.

If Abhi wants characters to fight to the BEST of their ability, in character, then all the speed blitz won't work.

Because in character, to the BEST of his ability, John would have prepped. forum rules be damned, he would have auto shields or Wonder Woman trapped in some mystical dimension of the souls of the Kents tied up somewhere.

Constantine wins.
And Superman would still win.

uhuh

Superman gets owned just like he did against magic lightning and teeth.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/ML_zps08897573.jpg

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MT_zpsae883b39.jpg

"So yeah, barring Superman stepping WAY out of character and blitzing immediately after the battle begins, Constantine wins every single time in a spitey fashion. Not even debatable. thumb up"

-this-

Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman gets owned just like he did against magic lightning and teeth.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/ML_zps08897573.jpg

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/MT_zpsae883b39.jpg
Or he could resist it like he did against Lexus who was shown destroying planets and the blast would've killed Pax Galactica. A single member of Pax was strong enough to break a continent sized worldship apart in a single strike and match Superman in strength.

http://i.imgur.com/xkfT3kF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UNv1dRW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jOkb4GM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/podSZ5P.jpg

Although he was temporarily KOED, he was unaware that the blast was magical to begin with.

http://i.imgur.com/NGyNqYp.jpg

And Lexus was powerful enough to destroy dozen of planets when he was just learning his powers.

http://i.imgur.com/TdhNlLG.jpg

So not seeing how its just that easy for John to beat Superman here when Superman can take blasts from planet busters.

Constantine stomps

And the guys who were about to get killed when Superman saved them from a magical blast? One of them did this to a ship this huge.

http://imgur.com/yI4iyFt
http://imgur.com/wycpZpF


http://i.imgur.com/x72aPPK.jpg

Split it into half with a single strike and kick it away like a damn football!

And he's certainly not blitzing Shazam here at the start of the fight.

http://i.imgur.com/gCJKfRI.jpg

No sir, he's not.

I admit, ABHI is making valid arguments about the blitz. Superman usually does it during the beginning of the fight. He did it against Mongul as well. Now an argument needs to be shown that Constantine can counter a blitz or already have something prepared for it.

Superman also takes several attacks from Multitude, magical weapon from 5th dimensional which killed Mxy's older form in one attack and destroyed 230 worlds instantly.

http://i.imgur.com/tZcjkT0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8MPLjbE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SVzfcLz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GqSAju0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KLqc4vb.jpg

But MAGICAL LIGHTNING, TEETH LOL!!!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Any scans? He did it right out of the bat here.

http://i.imgur.com/QN3MtgV.jpg Lol, you're showing me an in-battle scene against one of his enemies. You're not showing a scan of him blitzing immediately as the battle begins, which is what I asked for.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Way to go galan. He did it here too, punch Orion really hard and blitz the **** out of him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15900526/2013-05-22_07-52-56_-_Superman_2011-_020-006.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15900534/2013-05-22_07-53-01_-_Superman_2011-_020-007.jpg.html ABHI, YOU ARE A LIAR WHO PURPOSELY WITHHOLDS EVIDENCE IF IT DOESN'T SUIT YOUR ARGUMENT.

Superman only began 'blitzing' Orion in that scene AFTER Orion had already started attacking him:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18677637_2013-05-22_07-52-48_-_Superman_2011-_020-004.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18677638_2013-05-22_07-52-52_-_Superman_2011-_020-005.jpg http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/18677704_2013-05-22_07-52-56_-_Superman_2011-_020-006.jpg

He did NOT blitz him right away as you'd tried lying about.

...And you wonder why people don't take you seriously?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is immune to magic? Yes, Frank has demonstrated immunity to magical effects that even Constantine himself was susceptible to. I already posted pertinent scans a few pages ago. This is how I know you ignore my posts during your childish tirades.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You've just expressed your opinion without an facts and as always expect everyone to kneel against your wisdom. Says the guy who intentionally LIES about scenes if they don't mesh with his ideology. Lol.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And he's certainly not blitzing Shazam here at the start of the fight.


No sir, he's not.

Lol, seriously? Superman's mind was phucked up on k-nite at the time--he certainly wasn't operating in character during that scene. I can say this with confidence because a few pages later he did this to Dr. Light:
http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/18677695_Justice_League_2011-_022-025.jpg http://s5d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/18677696_Justice_League_2011-_022-026.jpg

A standard Supes in his right mindset would NEVER do that.

But yeah, keep lying.

Originally posted by carver9
I admit, ABHI is making valid arguments about the blitz. Superman usually does it during the beginning of the fight. He did it against Mongul as well. Now an argument needs to be shown that Constantine can counter a blitz or already have something prepared for it. Thing with abhi, carver, is that you cannot trust a damn thing he says. He fancies lying, you see. He will do whatever it takes to make Superman look good, and troll anyone who disagrees.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol, you're showing me an in-battle scene against one of his enemies. You're not showing a scan of him blitzing immediately as the battle begins, which is what I asked for.

Now everything is invalid.

No need to shout bro. Why so pissed?

Orion sucker attacked him and punched him while he was down. That's what I said, he punched Orion and then blitzed him. Reread what I said.

facepalm

Constantine is a human, he doesn't has a built up immunity to magic. So pardon me if I don't take that as impressive as you do.

"Lies, lies and lies". Is that what you are reduced to now?

No co relation to that scene and attacking shazam. He attacked Shazam without any provocation and was holding back the entire time as he said in the fight.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What I find funny is that Galan hasn't seen Superman blitzing anybody right off the bat when Superman's very first appearance had him blitzing the shit out of Hal.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/8893084_25.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/8893106_26.jpg


But nope, he never blitzes people.



Make up some more excuses about it.

Damn you get pissed when people disagree with you. But as I showed Superman can take magical attacks from being who can destroy planets. He's not going to fold against Constantine just because you want.

Originally posted by Galan007
Thing with abhi, carver, is that you cannot trust a damn thing he says. He fancies lying, you see. He will do whatever it takes to make Superman look good, and troll anyone who disagrees.

Yeah, I just read your previous post and I take back my statement. This will basically be the last time I take his post serious.

Also, during the time Superman blitzed Mongul, he did it because he thought Mongul killed Batman.

Lol, not taking the time to intelligibly respond to an exposed LIAR. You may continue trolling anyone who doesn't choose Superman in this thread. I wash my hands of this idiocy.



Cue the inevitable last word in 3....2....1....


Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, I just read your previous post and I take back my statement. This will basically be the last time I take his post serious.

Also, during the time Superman blitzed Mongul, he did it because the thought Mongul killed Batman.

Apparently stating what actually happened on panel makes you a liar. Using a totally different situation to invalid a showing which was never even mentioned is totally cool though.



Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, I just read your previous post and I take back my statement. This will basically be the last time I take his post serious.

Also, during the time Superman blitzed Mongul, he did it because he thought Mongul killed Batman.
@ this nuthugging though.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8893084/25.jpg.html

I wonder, is that lying? Must be.

mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Or he could resist it like he did against Lexus who was shown destroying planets and the blast would've killed Pax Galactica. A single member of Pax was strong enough to break a continent sized worldship apart in a single strike and match Superman in strength.

http://i.imgur.com/xkfT3kF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UNv1dRW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jOkb4GM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/podSZ5P.jpg

Although he was temporarily KOED, he was unaware that the blast was magical to begin with.

http://i.imgur.com/NGyNqYp.jpg

And Lexus was powerful enough to destroy dozen of planets when he was just learning his powers.

http://i.imgur.com/TdhNlLG.jpg

So not seeing how its just that easy for John to beat Superman here when Superman can take blasts from planet busters.

Constantine stomps those beings and Superman at the same time.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Constantine stomps those beings and Superman at the same time.
Yeah, sure. Whatever you say bro.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, sure. Whatever you say bro.

Glad we agree.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Glad we agree.
Careful bro, someone can say you're a liar on THAT too.

No one stomps anyone here. Especially in a comic.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
No one stomps anyone here. Especially in a comic.

Good to have you back buddy.

Isn't a blitz multiple super speed attacks?

Originally posted by carver9
Good to have you back buddy.

Thanks ^^. How are you?

Abhi's stance that Orion had to be amped seems to be more logical(at least on the surface) but Galan's evidence is better and more clearly presented. Orion's portrayed power and feats were therefore just that; a storyline-limited outlier performance. Nothing more, nothing less.

Heh........

A werewolf nearly killed superman. Constantine will wipe him out.

Welp, constantine is probably the most skillful magic user I know of in DC..

He has tricked god, batman, superman, and proly tons more into doing what he wanted.


This means he could outwit the spectre, who is omnipotent, and clark wouldn't be too hard, so I wouldnt be suprised if he lures him close and 1 shots with some curse.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/3147279-justice+league+dark+%282011-%29+020-011.jpg
Outreacting a speeding Flash. Pretty insane feat.

Being prepared

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/113883/3147279-justice+league+dark+%282011-%29+020-011.jpg
Outreacting a speeding Flash. Pretty insane feat.

Woah, when was that?

BTW, Constantine still wins.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Woah, when was that?

BTW, Constantine still wins.

Happened during one of the earlier issues of Justice League Dark. That scene was weird to me...I didn't get it.

Galans argument and Abhis poor stance has convinced me, John wins

Sans plot induced stupidity the more powerful character should win, IMO

"I don't know what Batman was thinking, my heat vision will burn you to primordial ash"

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_search_02_007_zpsb0a9c7bf.jpg

"Now, how about letting me get me feet outside this ridiculous circle"

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_search_02_011_zpsfde3da51.jpg

"Supes to burn of the infection, Swampy to shield me from the heat"

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_search_02_015-016_zps692b5e7a.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_search_02_017_zpse720ad7d.jpg

While Constantine is a resourceful cunning bastard, it is clear that Superman has the power to turn John into paste.

What if John had prep? Which he always does?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if John had prep? Which he always does?

That is not entirely true, his "prep" is like Batman's prep, it happens to be there because the plot needs it.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_BDATS_1_Oroboros_CPS_004_zpse00fd4ab.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_BDATS_1_Oroboros_CPS_005_zps0ea23b8e.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_BDATS_1_Oroboros_CPS_027_zps829ffccb.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/th_BDATS_1_Oroboros_CPS_028_zpsede50736.jpg

He pulls amazing crap because of it, but in the end is the Batman effect. IMO

Constantine>>>Batman in prep.

^I don't think that just because writers favor a character with prep plot that makes them more powerful than others, be that Doom, Reed, Constantine or Batman.

While I can def see Constantine coning Superman or tricking him into some situation, I also can see Superman not being stupid enough to let any of this things happening in a fight with Constantine and just turn him into primordial ash, imo.

Why is Rao Kal El posting scans of Pre-DCnU Constantine?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
^I don't think that just because writers favor a character with prep plot that makes them more powerful than others, be that Doom, Reed, Constantine or Batman.

While I can def see Constantine coning Superman or tricking him into some situation, I also can see Superman not being stupid enough to let any of this things happening in a fight with Constantine and just turn him into primordial ash, imo.

If you can see Constantine tricking Superman, then you can see Constantine doing this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/11/113883/3148987-turnabout.jpg