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Can Doomsday bring down the God of Thunder?

If it's current Doomsday...Thor drives a hole through him with Mjlonir. Angrir ripped through Red Hulk like nothing while withstanding hits from him and Thor punched a hole clean through him with Mjlonir. Can see the same happening here.

Doomsday can lay the smackdown on Superman, so he would have zero troubles with Thor (who always struggles to fight a inferior character like Hulk) , there is nothing goldilocks can do to put him down.

In short, Thor cannot kill Doomsday, if the ugly **** goes hand to hand on thor, bye bye blondie.

Edit: Going by Superman Doomed; Thor would be reduced into ashes.

Doomsday kills him. He is no superman after all. Doomsday is already above him in strength and the longer fight would go, Thor would weaken and Doomsday would get stronger.

If Superman ripped the current Doomsday in half (I admit to not reading the story), there's no way he's beating Thor.

What a stupid logic, since NU Supes would also destroy Thor in a fight
Doomsday can give a guy who can lift 6000 metric tons a lot of trouble, what is Thor gonna do?

Originally posted by tkitna
If Superman ripped the current Doomsday in half (I admit to not reading the story), there's no way he's beating Thor.
Why? A weaker Doomsday ROFLstomped wonder woman, breaking her arms with a blocked punch.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16798925_Superman-Wonder_Woman_2013-_001-018.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16798926_Superman-Wonder_Woman_2013-_001-019.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16798927_Superman-Wonder_Woman_2013-_001-020.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16993615_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16993616_2.jpg

And was stated to be able to kill Superman in a larval state.

http://i.imgur.com/X5O5mkL.jpg

While it got stronger with every next appearance.

http://i.imgur.com/FOpEwrK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iZhqbFX.jpg

Superman killing Doomsday was a very high end feat for him, not a low showing for Doomsday. I don't see Thor being able to break Diana's arms with a blocked punch. Not even close.

Larval stage > Full power obviously.

If Thor hit Diana with Mjoinir at full force he'd probably splatter her.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Larval stage > Full power obviously.

If Thor hit Diana with Mjoinir at full force he'd probably splatter her.
That's some ass backward logic.

He wishes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's some ass backward logic.

He wishes.
I knew this was gonna happen too. Once Superman started to 'settle in' after the reboot, his status as elite DC herald was going to manifest.

As to the thread, it could go either way. I'd give Thor the slight majority though simply because of the exotic stuff he can whip out using Mjolnir.

Originally posted by zopzop
I knew this was gonna happen too. Once Superman started to 'settle in' after the reboot, his status as elite DC herald was going to manifest.

As to the thread, it could go either way. I'd give Thor the slight majority though simply because of the exotic stuff he can whip out using Mjolnir. Like that was ever in dispute. This is just the beginning, Pak is going to make him go in space and wreck some major shit after he transforms in doomsday.

Where are "wonder woman is more powerful/formidable than superman because Zod blah, blah and blah" bandwagon jumpers anyway?

Which he never does against brutes, he wants to challenge them for strength and in this case its suicidal since Doomsday would be amping on Thor's own strength.

Thor

Thor decapitates him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor decapitates him.
Doomsday rips Thor in half.

What strength feats does Doomsday have to support this?

Doomsday. If it's current DD, Thor wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What strength feats does Doomsday have to support this?
Breaking Diana's arms with a single blocked punch.

How does that prove that he can beat Thor, much less rip him in half?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does that prove that he can beat Thor, much less rip him in half?
Even sun amped Kryptonians who were explicitly above top tiers failed to break bones of diana.

Not to mention Doomsday got even stronger than that.

Me stating "Doomday rips thor in half" was just as true as you stating Thor would decapitate Doomsday. Neither is likely but Doomsday would beat Thor. The combination of strength+draining is too much.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How does that prove that he can beat Thor, much less rip him in half?

It's hia8 abhi, Superman related characters always win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's hia8 abhi, Superman related characters always win.
Oh look, snake-eyes is here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even sun amped Kryptonians who were explicitly above top tiers failed to break bones of diana.

Not to mention Doomsday got even stronger than that.

Me stating "Doomday rips thor in half" was just as true as you stating Thor would decapitate Doomsday. Neither is likely but Doomsday would beat Thor. The combination of strength+draining is too much.

You do realize that in the past you have outright said power levels fluctuate from comic to comic in order to ignore direct comparisons in regards to power?

Your own warped logic is much more applicable here. For example:
A non-amped Zod broke Superman's arm without that much of a fuss but even when Sun-amped, did not do as much damage to him (Or Diana).

Your nonsense aside, Doomsday is strong, but breaking Diana's arm is irrelevant as she's not even on the same level as Thor in terms of power or durability.

Thor wins, far too powerful, strong and versatile. And he'd resist the radiation draining at least as well as Superman (Assuming he isn't outright immune due to being an immortal).

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't see Thor being able to break Diana's arms with a blocked punch. Not even close.

I don't see Superman doing it either.

I'm not sure what to think of those scans. I admit that its a pretty freaking ridiculous feat for Superman though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You do realize that in the past you have outright said power levels fluctuate from comic to comic in order to ignore direct comparisons in regards to power?

Your own warped logic is much more applicable here. For example:
A non-amped Zod broke Superman's arm without that much of a fuss but even when Sun-amped, did not do as much damage to him (Or Diana).

Your nonsense aside, Doomsday is strong, but breaking Diana's arm is irrelevant as she's not even on the same level as Thor in terms of power or durability.

Thor wins, far too powerful, strong and versatile. And he'd resist the radiation draining at least as well as Superman (Assuming he isn't outright immune due to being an immortal).
Under the same writer? Not that much.

Zod used skill to break Superman's arm from joint. Nothing indicated that he could directly break Superman's arm with a strike.


Who says she has to be Thor's level in strength and durability to make it impressive? I would like to see any brick breaking a top tier's armS with a blocked punch. She is top tier, right?

Thor would get his skull caved in. He isn't strong enough to deal with Doomsday here. And he rarely uses his versatility against such opponents.

And lulz @ being as resistant as Superman. Nobody was stated to be more resistant than Superman against the radiation on entire planet. Thor would get killed by Doomsday here.

Originally posted by tkitna
I don't see Superman doing it either.

I'm not sure what to think of those scans. I admit that its a pretty freaking ridiculous feat for Superman though.
Yeah, I don't see even Superman breaking diana's bones with a blocked punch in standard fight.

Tearing someone apart is ridiculously impressive. I recall these same posters shitting themselves when Sentry ripped Ares apart. But its not impressive for Superman for some reason.

Oh, its definitely impressive.

When I said I don't know what to make out of those scans, I was meaning that I don't want to automatically rate Superman as being many times more than I originally thought before I read the story. Not sure if it's Supes or a watered down Doomsday. I need to read the story.

Originally posted by tkitna
Oh, its definitely impressive.

When I said I don't know what to make out of those scans, I was meaning that I don't want to automatically rate Superman as being many times more than I originally thought before I read the story. Not sure if it's Supes or a watered down Doomsday. I need to read the story.
Doomsday was explicitly stronger than ever.

http://i.imgur.com/iZhqbFX.jpg

It was growing stronger with every life it had taken. And it had already killed millions.

http://i.imgur.com/FOpEwrK.jpg

came here to check ABHI's post, was not dissapointed.

Originally posted by 8swords
came here to check ABHI's post, was not dissapointed.


Rage's hypocrisy has always pissed me off.

the crowd seems to be leaning towards Doomsday. Hmmm very interesting

Originally posted by abhilegend
Under the same writer? Not that much.

Zod used skill to break Superman's arm from joint. Nothing indicated that he could directly break Superman's arm with a strike.


Who says she has to be Thor's level in strength and durability to make it impressive? I would like to see any brick breaking a top tier's armS with a blocked punch. She is top tier, right?

Thor would get his skull caved in. He isn't strong enough to deal with Doomsday here. And he rarely uses his versatility against such opponents.

And lulz @ being as resistant as Superman. Nobody was stated to be more resistant than Superman against the radiation on entire planet. Thor would get killed by Doomsday here.

Yes, under the SAME writer. I can literally quote you from like a few days ago.

Using your logic, no she isn't. Not if Doomsday who at that level was "Superman level in strength" was only able to knock Clark off his feet with a sucker punch but was able to break both her arms with a single punch.

Wonder Woman must have been having one of those famous fluctuation moments you ascribe to.

Of course he is. He's faced far stronger opponents and done far better and used Mjolnir on a variety of occasions.

And if Superman can incinerate him with heat vision, get completely run through by Diana's sword, he'd get wrecked by Thor's fists, much less Mjolnir.

What's so amusing? Thor has proven to be outright immune to certain radiation and exotic powers due to his heritage. Decay from the Exemplars could kill almost anything with his decaying touch but Thor was immune etc.

Not to mention Thor's ability to soak up damage and injury is easily comparable to Superman's.

Oh yeah, Doomsday's "larvae form" also didn't one-shot kill or break all the bones of Kryptonian's (In their weapon suits) either:
http://s12.postimg.org/bccslwa2x/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/r1nxm3rih/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/7ijccqsqx/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/b0vc94tmx/image.jpg

I've seen Abhil argue with far less evidence that it wasn't a good showing for Thor, but a bad one for his opponent in the past.

Curious how a person's mindset can change. mhmm

I guess Diana getting her arms broken by a single punch by a herald level being described as "Superman level" in strength just reflects on how shitty she was before Soule started "giving in" to fanboys.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh yeah, Doomsday's "larvae form" also didn't one-shot kill or break all the bones of Kryptonian's (In their weapon suits) either:
http://s12.postimg.org/bccslwa2x/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/r1nxm3rih/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/7ijccqsqx/image.jpghttp://s12.postimg.org/b0vc94tmx/image.jpg

I've seen Abhil argue with far less evidence that it wasn't a good showing for Thor, but a bad one for his opponent in the past.

Curious how a person's mindset can change. mhmm

I guess Diana getting her arms broken by a single punch by a herald level being described as "Superman level" in strength just reflects on how shitty she was before Soule started "giving in" to fanboys.



Exactly. Especially looking at the fact that Diana did well against him during the second encounter...even thought she could beat it. Also...those must be some durable polar bears. Their bodies was still intact after receiving full fledge punches from Doomsday.

Originally posted by carver9
Also...those must be some durable polar bears. Their bodies was still intact after receiving full fledge punches from Doomsday.
Just like that human being that withstood multiple hits from the Karnilla powered Destroyer?

Originally posted by zopzop
Just like that human being that withstood multiple hits from the Karnilla powered Destroyer?



Don't have a problem with that. Now if the Destroyer broke Thor arms and then afterwards failed at incinerating some squirrels, I would be pissed.

If this is current Doomsday, then i'm closing the thread. He doesn't have nearly enough appearances to justify a vs thread.

The intent of the comic doesn't mean anything in this instance, so please, decide which Doomsday to use.

Carver and Abhi, you're both warned. Gonna suggest a week off for both of you for the way you've been ignoring mod directives.

Wait, Doomsday got ripped in half by Superman?

So naturally that means that we should defend Doomsday against Thor even though he lacks the feats to beat him... because that makes Superman ripping him in half even better!

Oh man, I gotta dl all the comics I missed. This should be a good one.

Originally posted by carver9


Exactly. Especially looking at the fact that Diana did well against him during the second encounter...even thought she could beat it. Also...those must be some durable polar bears. Their bodies was still intact after receiving full fledge punches from Doomsday.

How about Diana taking punches to the face from Doomsday with nothing but a bloody lip to show for it?

http://s23.postimg.org/saokzciw7/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_001_019.jpghttp://s23.postimg.org/7k61xru07/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_001_020.jpghttp://s23.postimg.org/pbhoc89ev/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_002_001.jpghttp://s23.postimg.org/phvdfbijr/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_002_002.jpg

I think it's safe to say that Diana's arms are just not very durable.

ha-som

All the Abhil level logic aside, it was clearly a very nice feat for Doomsday and meant to indicate that he is VERY STRONG and probably above Diana in sheer brute force.

I however don't subscribe to the idea that it definitely makes him above Herald level, much less subsequently proves that he beats up THOR in a fight when in the same series Zod did this to Clark:
http://s23.postimg.org/upggjrz57/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_005_019.jpg

And yet was unable to kill him or Diana while being powered up.

Guys, pick a Doomsday version. Last chance.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, pick a Doomsday version. Last chance.

Wait, any incarnation except the most recent?

Lol, that's definitely how this is going to go........

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait, any incarnation except the most recent?

Lol, that's definitely how this is going to go........

I'm just saying the current one isn't usable due to lack of appearances. So if it's the current one, I'll close it. I gave you guys the chance to pick so that It wouldn't seem like I was making a ruling, but if I need to, that's fine with me.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Wait, Doomsday got ripped in half by Superman?

So naturally that means that we should defend Doomsday against Thor even though he lacks the feats to beat him... because that makes Superman ripping him in half even better!

Oh man, I gotta dl all the comics I missed. This should be a good one.



@Pr...

I didn't even respond to ABHI in this thread.

This battle ends the way all battles between Thor and non-lightspeed Class 100s end. Dimension Dump

And if its new 52 Doomsday, Thor justs blasts a hole through him

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, under the SAME writer. I can literally quote you from like a few days ago.

Using your logic, no she isn't. Not if Doomsday who at that level was "Superman level in strength" was only able to knock Clark off his feet with a sucker punch but was able to break both her arms with a single punch.

Wonder Woman must have been having one of those famous fluctuation moments you ascribe to.

Of course he is. He's faced far stronger opponents and done far better and used Mjolnir on a variety of occasions.

And if Superman can incinerate him with heat vision, get completely run through by Diana's sword, he'd get wrecked by Thor's fists, much less Mjolnir.

What's so amusing? Thor has proven to be outright immune to certain radiation and exotic powers due to his heritage. Decay from the Exemplars could kill almost anything with his decaying touch but Thor was immune etc.

Not to mention Thor's ability to soak up damage and injury is easily comparable to Superman's.
I would like to see the quote bro.

So? Superman is exceptionally durable for top tiers.

He's also faced very few characters at this level and done very poorly.

Bwhahaha, Superman at that level would tear Thor to pieces.

You think Thor is more immune than the whole DC earth and its heroes? Wait, don't answer that.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh yeah, Doomsday's "larvae form" also didn't one-shot kill or break all the bones of Kryptonian's (In their weapon suits) either:


I've seen Abhil argue with far less evidence that it wasn't a good showing for Thor, but a bad one for his opponent in the past.

Curious how a person's mindset can change. mhmm

I guess Diana getting her arms broken by a single punch by a herald level being described as "Superman level" in strength just reflects on how shitty she was before Soule started "giving in" to fanboys.
facepalm

http://i.imgur.com/iZhqbFX.jpg

Getting stronger with each appearance. You are just butthurt at this point.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How about Diana taking punches to the face from Doomsday with nothing but a bloody lip to show for it?



I think it's safe to say that Diana's arms are just not very durable.

ha-som

All the Abhil level logic aside, it was clearly a very nice feat for Doomsday and meant to indicate that he is VERY STRONG and probably above Diana in sheer brute force.

I however don't subscribe to the idea that it definitely makes him above Herald level, much less subsequently proves that he beats up THOR in a fight when in the same series Zod did this to Clark:
http://s23.postimg.org/upggjrz57/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_005_019.jpg

And yet was unable to kill him or Diana while being powered up.
Breaking bones with skills and leverage=/=breaking them with a strike. Go home rage, you're just babbling nonsense at this point.

Hm.

I say doomsday takes 7/10

Thor could possibly defeat doomsday with his magic arsenal, but physically he would be curb stomped.

thor is powerful, I'd say he's marvels counterpart to superman in a way and their base powers are close.

Thor has very powerful energy manipulation, and doomsday evolved to become immne to certain things, and being from dcu wouldn't have encountered asgardian magic.

Thor would run through doomsday, really nothing doomsday can do that thor hasn't fought tougher. His position shit probably won't do much or work. He fought Gorr for godsake you can't compare anything from this doomsday to what Gorr has done or could do. He hurt Wonder woman and that about it for new feats and of course getting ripped in half. Thors fought against invulerable and immortal viking, a planet made of thor clones from ego the living planet. Even new thor who can't fight for shit lost a good amount of fights still hurt glory, mikaboshi, and of course Gorr.

Wasn't it stated that no one on earth could fight doomsday except for superman? The no one on earth includes Black Adam, Diana and other high heralds.

That's enough to include Doomsday into that tier or above.

Another reason why he has to be included in this tier is that his brute strength was just too much for wonder woman's superior fighting skill to handle. That superior skill allowed her to hang with 2 kryptonians but was useless against Doomsday's brute strength.

Finally, when was the last time some high herald broke a blocking high herald's arm with a single punch?

All this solidly puts doomsday physically in high herald or above tier.

I know why some few have a difficult time believing this because then, it will put superman on an entirely different level

Originally posted by Diesldude
Wasn't it stated that no one on earth could fight doomsday except for superman? The no one on earth includes Black Adam, Diana and other high heralds.

That's enough to include Doomsday into that tier or above.

Another reason why he has to be included in this tier is that his brute strength was just too much for wonder woman's superior fighting skill to handle. That superior skill allowed her to hang with 2 kryptonians but was useless against Doomsday's brute strength.

Finally, when was the last time some high herald broke a blocking high herald's arm with a single punch?

All this solidly puts doomsday physically in high herald or above tier.

I know why some few have a difficult time believing this because then, it will put superman on an entirely different level

No one could fight him because of the poison. Crazy thing is Diana fought him right after that and brushed the poison off. She even thought she could beat him and damaged him to the point that he was on the ground coughing up blue poison. If Diana can withstand that poison...Thor can as well.

It was also stated that Superman can only be in range of the poison for 10 min.

Originally posted by carver9
No one could fight him because of the poison. Crazy thing is Diana fought him right after that and brushed the poison off. She even thought she could beat him and damaged him to the point that he was on the ground coughing up blue poison. If Diana can withstand that poison...Thor can as well.
How did that fight end? Easy to underestimate your opponent


Originally posted by carver9

It was also stated that Superman can only be in range of the poison for 10 min.

Only superman can last 10 mins.. everyone else was even less than 10 mins. Meaning superman is in a separate class than everyone on dc earth. But I'm not arguing superman's status, I'm arguing doomsday's tier when it is stated that the only being on the planet, possibly the galaxy that can hope to stop him is superman.


Side note, We now know that they were lowballing superman here because he did more then just stop him.

Originally posted by Diesldude
How did that fight end? Easy to underestimate your opponent




Only superman can last 10 mins.. everyone else was even less than 10 mins. Meaning superman is in a separate class than everyone on dc earth. But I'm not arguing superman's status, I'm arguing doomsday's tier when it is stated that the only being on the planet, possibly the galaxy that can hope to stop him is superman.


Side note, We now know that they were lowballing superman here because he did more then just stop him.

It ended in a stalemate because Superman showed up.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769654/1315339.jpg.html

Yes...only Superman could last 10 minutes because the poison would have killed anyone else much faster.

It never said anything about him being the only person in the Galaxy to stop him. It said that he have the most raw energy on the planet, possibly Galaxy for Doomsday to feed off of.

Diana ripped a hole through him and her battle scream gave Doomsday pause, to the point that he ran off (as shown per the scan above).

No one Is lowballing Superman. I just wish Doomsday had more showings we could use to base his power off of. We really don't know anything about the character.

Originally posted by carver9
It ended in a stalemate because Superman showed up.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/18769654/1315339.jpg.html

Yes...only Superman could last 10 minutes because the poison would have killed anyone else much faster.

It never said anything about him being the only person in the Galaxy to stop him. It said that he have the most raw energy on the planet, possibly Galaxy for Doomsday to feed off of.

Diana ripped a hole through him and her battle scream gave Doomsday pause, to the point that he ran off (as shown per the scan above).

No one Is lowballing Superman. I just wish Doomsday had more showings we could use to base his power off of. We really don't know anything about the character.

You are. Now stop ****ing lying.

==

Pak intended to make Doomsday a threat only Superman could take down. That was his (rather obvious) intent. People like Carver taking a steaming shit on it just because they don't like it, doesn't change that.

That said, Doomsday doesn't have enough feats for us to gain a true gauge of his level. So it's rather pointless to have THAT Doomsday going up against someone like Thor.

Pick another version guys, or I will.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You are. Now stop ****ing lying.

==

Pak intended to make Doomsday a threat only Superman could take down. That was his (rather obvious) intent. People like Carver taking a steaming shit on it just because they don't like it, doesn't change that.

That said, Doomsday doesn't have enough feats for us to gain a true gauge of his level. So it's rather pointless to have THAT Doomsday going up against someone like Thor.

Pick another version guys, or I will.

I agree with you and never said anything different. I'm basically telling him what Luthor was referencing during that scene.

Trololol. The Thor lowball is real.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you and never said anything different. I'm basically telling him what Luthor was referencing during that scene.

No, you aren't.

So you're either lying, or you didn't read the comic. Which is it.
Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Trololol. The Thor lowball is real.

You're surprised?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I would like to see the quote bro.

So? Superman is exceptionally durable for top tiers.

He's also faced very few characters at this level and done very poorly.

Bwhahaha, Superman at that level would tear Thor to pieces.

You think Thor is more immune than the whole DC earth and its heroes? Wait, don't answer that.
facepalm

Lol, are you implying Thor isn't? And while Superman is more durable than Diana, the entire arc with Zod makes it clear that at the very least on average, his edge over her in raw durability is not that huge.

Not even close man.

I don't get it, is that intended to be a counter point? So because Diana, Steel and other members of the Justice League are unable to resist Doomsday's radiation, Thor (Who despite having much better feats even against similar degradation) automatically cannot?

Heck, under certain writers, he might very well be outright immune against exotic stuff like this.

Unless you think everyone on Earth, literally meant every single being currently residing on Earth (Which it obviously didn't), I don't see why you wouldn't think Thor would fair at the very LEAST as well as Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Getting stronger with each appearance. You are just butthurt at this point.
Breaking bones with skills and leverage=/=breaking them with a strike. Go home rage, you're just babbling nonsense at this point.

How does that change anything I said?

Leverage and skill? Clearly this was more technical than Doomsday's feat but the idea that this was purely done due to a skill edge is idiotic. Do you not see the scan? He grabs Superman's arm and BREAKS it outright.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Wasn't it stated that no one on earth could fight doomsday except for superman? The no one on earth includes Black Adam, Diana and other high heralds.

1. That was in reference to his radiation poisoning ability. Only Superman could last even as long as 10 minutes with Doomsday in combat.

2. The idea that it referred to other heroes like Captain Atom, much less a villain like Black Adam, is pretty questionable. The regular guest stars in Superman books or even the Justice League members I can understand but if you want to take the statement so literally, you might as well include the Phantom Stranger.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. That was in reference to his radiation poisoning ability. Only Superman could last even as long as 10 minutes with Doomsday in combat.

2. The idea that it referred to other heroes like Captain Atom, much less a villain like Black Adam, is pretty questionable. The regular guest stars in Superman books or even the Justice League members I can understand but if you want to take the statement so literally, you might as well include the Phantom Stranger. Swamp Thing and Zauriel would also fall

Constantine...

Originally posted by abhilegend
I would like to see the quote bro.


Here you go:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Comics are inconsistent, we get it.

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=259242.msg4341248#msg4341248

Talk about having double standards.....

What about Thor having fought the Hulk? Hulk and Doomsday are comparable

Originally posted by WildBantha88
What about Thor having fought the Hulk? Hulk and Doomsday are comparable

Any fight between Thor and Hulk that lasts more than one panel is utter PIS given
1. Thor can just dimension dump the dude anytime he likes/ any other exotic stuff with his hammer

2.Thor can just throw him into space .....and thats that

3. Even ignoring 1 and 2 , Thor's reaction speed is so far above Bruce " I cant land a hit on street levellers jumping about for oh 5 decades now" Banner, its not even funny.

Besides, Thor's stronger anyway and while the difference in strength isn't too much, it does make a difference when you can land about a 100 hits before your opponent can respond

Similarly Thor vs Doomsday isnt really a battle....Its just a question of how quickly Thor decides to BFR him

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Any fight between Thor and Hulk that lasts more than one panel is utter PIS given
1. Thor can just dimension dump the dude anytime he likes/ any other exotic stuff with his hammer

2.Thor can just throw him into space .....and thats that

3. Even ignoring 1 and 2 , Thor's reaction speed is so far above Bruce " I cant land a hit on street levellers jumping about for oh 5 decades now" Banner, its not even funny.

Besides, Thor's stronger anyway and while the difference in strength isn't too much, it does make a difference when you can land about a 100 hits before your opponent can respond

Similarly Thor vs Doomsday isnt really a battle....Its just a question of how quickly Thor decides to BFR him

So every time Marvel comics make a book where the Hulk says that he is the strongest one there is, they are lying? I guess that you know better than the people that created both characters then. Thor has never had a rough time with a street level character? How does he pull all of these exotic moves when he has someone up in his grill whenever they fight? That would be like an episode of DBZ, where Goku says, hold up, let me make this spirit bomb, and you just sit there for a few hours and watch. Last question, what does any of this have to do with the topic?

Originally posted by -Pr-

Pick another version guys, or I will.

Ok. I pick Doomsday Wars Brainiac Doomsday.

Originally posted by Stoic
So every time Marvel comics make a book where the Hulk says that he is the strongest one there is, they are lying?
So you think Hulk is stronger than just as an example, Thanos?
Or to put it another way , Sentry has stalemated Galactus by your logic and hey thats actually a more quantifiable feat than Hulk saying hes the strongest there is

Or seriously, character statements? Is that the standard of evidence you operate on? Hulk is a character with over 5 decades if FEATS to establish him as a decent class 100 brick / inferior to Thors own feats over the same period, but you are resorting to character statements ?
I guess Odin is omnipotent now



For one thing Im pretty sure Thor has been portrayed as Hulks superior from Day 1 by Stan Lee himself

And for another characters rarely end up being what they were originally created as





Of course he has. Its just that the number of supersonic or beyond speed feats that he has racked up over the years more than disprove any contradictory showing as opposed to Hulk

Also the character presentation wherein Hulk is the slow bumbling class 100 brick as opposed to Thor outright blitzing people on more than one occasion


Given how Thors own reflexes casually dwarf Hulks, just like how supermans reflexes casually dwarf Thors, he could just dimension dump him easily

Or hey just chuck him into space

Or pound on him faster than he can blink

Anything really.




The poster before me compared Hulk to Doomsday
So I pointed out how Thor stomps Hulk. Pretty much the same for DD unless the nu52 DD has been racking up some near light reflex feats that I haven't heard of ( and it has got to be near light for him to blitz Thor and thus render him incapable of a Dimension dump a la Superman)

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

Constantine...

Overkill.

Also, I pick DoS Doomsday. As no one else has bothered to pick, my choice is the winner.

Originally posted by Stoic
So every time Marvel comics make a book where the Hulk says that he is the strongest one there is, they are lying? I guess that you know better than the people that created both characters then. Thor has never had a rough time with a street level character? How does he pull all of these exotic moves when he has someone up in his grill whenever they fight? That would be like an episode of DBZ, where Goku says, hold up, let me make this spirit bomb, and you just sit there for a few hours and watch. Last question, what does any of this have to do with the topic?

Its clear the guy doesn't know what he is talking about. It is debatable if BFRing the Hulk would even work anymore.

This happened while he was weakened.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/HULK2014001-int-LR3-2-e8a80.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/HULK2014001-int-LR3-3-a26a7.jpg
http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/preview/0/0/1/HULK2014001-int-LR3-4-9c5ae.jpg

The guy was caught off guard and was dimensioned dumped and he ran back on pure speed alone back to the spot he was bfred from.

Also...lol at Hull reflexes. I can tell this guy have not picked up a Hulk comic in about 10 to 15 yrs (or at all).

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
So you think Hulk is stronger than just as an example, Thanos?
Or to put it another way , Sentry has stalemated Galactus by your logic and hey thats actually a more quantifiable feat than Hulk saying hes the strongest there is

Or seriously, character statements? Is that the standard of evidence you operate on? Hulk is a character with over 5 decades if FEATS to establish him as a decent class 100 brick / inferior to Thors own feats over the same period, but you are resorting to character statements ?
I guess Odin is omnipotent now



For one thing Im pretty sure Thor has been portrayed as Hulks superior from Day 1 by Stan Lee himself

And for another characters rarely end up being what they were originally created as





Of course he has. Its just that the number of supersonic or beyond speed feats that he has racked up over the years more than disprove any contradictory showing as opposed to Hulk

Also the character presentation wherein Hulk is the slow bumbling class 100 brick as opposed to Thor outright blitzing people on more than one occasion


Given how Thors own reflexes casually dwarf Hulks, just like how supermans reflexes casually dwarf Thors, he could just dimension dump him easily

Or hey just chuck him into space

Or pound on him faster than he can blink

Anything really.




The poster before me compared Hulk to Doomsday
So I pointed out how Thor stomps Hulk. Pretty much the same for DD unless the nu52 DD has been racking up some near light reflex feats that I haven't heard of ( and it has got to be near light for him to blitz Thor and thus render him incapable of a Dimension dump a la Superman)

Show us these Thor speed fts that outclass Hulks.

Originally posted by cdtm
Ok. I pick Doomsday Wars Brainiac Doomsday.

We have a winner.

That's the Doomsday in this thread now. Anyone who continues to be off-topic will be told to **** off.

Originally posted by carver9
Its clear the guy doesn't know what he is talking about. It is debatable if BFRing the Hulk would even work anymore.


The guy was caught off guard and was dimensioned dumped and he ran back on pure speed alone back to the spot he was bfred from.

Also...lol at Hull reflexes. I can tell this guy have not picked up a Hulk comic in about 10 to 15 yrs (or at all).

Thats a particularly unfortunate scan to choose for showing anything about theHulks sspeed when it involves Hulk getting shot on panel and his reaction being all of "Ahh that hurts but cant really dodge it so better swat away the attackers"
Thats just the kind of thing I am talkinh about. Thor , at the very least does stuff alike deflecting machine gun fire from multiple sources with his hammer, even without going to his higher end feats and how often he has shown speed over 50 years

And Hulk sprinting back from the negative zone....Wow just wow.
I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself whether you are approaching this debate objectively

and really if we are going to talk about the last 10-15 years , Hulks speed has been nerfed down if anything given previously hr used to do stuff like catch tank shells with his teeth( anamalous to his overall record vs bullets and all but hey, at least he used to do that once in a while)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, are you implying Thor isn't? And while Superman is more durable than Diana, the entire arc with Zod makes it clear that at the very least on average, his edge over her in raw durability is not that huge. WTF? Superman was taking attacks from two kryptonians together and was just fine. Diana didn't take any damage from them because she wasn't hit anytime in the first fight. Where did they compare her durability to Superman?

Why?

Wonder Woman is an immortal demigoddess too. Yet she wasn't able to resist, neither was her sword which disintegrated in seconds. The point was clear, nobody else other than Superman could take those radiation more than ten minutes. And Thor is no superman.

Nope.

Because Thor is no Superman? Your dreams about Thor being as durable as Superman are just that, a dream. And why would I doubt the writer's words because your ass chafes reading the comic?



You said only rubbish.

LOLWUT? They matched in strength lock just a page before. There was no strength advantage for Zod there. With two hands and applying pressure on it. Striking and breaking two arms with a punch is FAR more impressive. Its not even worth talking to someone who can't understand what's so obvious.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here you go:





http://herochat.com/forum/index.php?topic=259242.msg4341248#msg4341248

Talk about having double standards.....

I'm saying comics are inconsistent means powers fluctuate so wildly under a writer? Sometimes I wonder, is there nothing but air in between your ears?

Originally posted by -Pr-
We have a winner.

That's the Doomsday in this thread now. Anyone who continues to be off-topic will be told to **** off.
Sorry, I didn't see that post.

DD wars Doomsday? Thor gets ****ed in the ass with his own hammer.

Originally posted by carver9
Show us these Thor speed fts that outclass Hulks.

Just off the top of my head, Thof reacting in microseconds in Thor 144 and deflecting machine gun fire from multiple sources in Thor 246

Bwahaha, Thor supporters could've killed this argument off, but instead the constant bitching means a more powerful DD is being used.....

I can feel there's some kinda lesson to be learnt here....

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Thats a particularly unfortunate scan to choose for showing anything about theHulks sspeed when it involves Hulk getting shot on panel and his reaction being all of "Ahh that hurts but cant really dodge it so better swat away the attackers"
Thats just the kind of thing I am talkinh about. Thor , at the very least does stuff alike deflecting machine gun fire from multiple sources with his hammer, even without going to his higher end feats and how often he has shown speed over 50 years

And Hulk sprinting back from the negative zone....Wow just wow.
I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself whether you are approaching this debate objectively

and really if we are going to talk about the last 10-15 years , Hulks speed has been nerfed down if anything given previously hr used to do stuff like catch tank shells with his teeth( anamalous to his overall record vs bullets and all but hey, at least he used to do that once in a while)

LOL... like Ive stated before, you have not been keeping up with the Hulk.


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg

Also, lol at you bringing up speed fts that's 30 plus years old. Do I honesty have to post all of Hulks speed fts?

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot7_zps16e150cc.jpg.html?sort=9&o=115

How about this, either post some fts backing your claim or concede.

Hulk isn't even in this thread, so why would you bring him up. Stop derailing the thread.

Carver, you've lost, and lost badly. This Gray Ghost character has utterly humiliated you.

Thor can win with BFR.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, you've lost, and lost badly. This Gray Ghost character has utterly humiliated you.

Thor can win with BFR.

LOL -

Guys, Hulk isn't in this thread. Stop.

Originally posted by abhilegend
WTF? Superman was taking attacks from two kryptonians together and was just fine. Diana didn't take any damage from them because she wasn't hit anytime in the first fight. Where did they compare her durability to Superman?

Why?

Wonder Woman is an immortal demigoddess too. Yet she wasn't able to resist, neither was her sword which disintegrated in seconds. The point was clear, nobody else other than Superman could take those radiation more than ten minutes. And Thor is no superman.

Nope.

Because Thor is no Superman? Your dreams about Thor being as durable as Superman are just that, a dream. And why would I doubt the writer's words because your ass chafes reading the comic?

You said only rubbish.

When they said both of them were extremely hard to kill? Or when Diana withstood a similar beating to Superman in their second fight and then again when both were Sun Amped?

Because being able to rip in half this Doomsday does not in anyway suggest he can do so to Thor.

And Wonder Woman is not even remotely comparable to Thor, she's vulnerable even to regular radiation. She has not faced the exotic attacks that Thor has nor has she shown anywhere near his resistance or ability to soak up damage.

Nope? Under some writers he has proven immune to very exotic attacks based on radiation. Immune to Decay's touch:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ImmunetoDecaysTouch.jpg

Immune to the Presence's touch:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ImmunetoPresenceTouch.jpg

Thor's record isn't spotless but he's also resisted a variety of shit that makes radiation based attacks look like child play.

Because it was said only Superman can survive the radiation for 10 minutes or so, that means Thor cannot possible survive? How does that make any sense?

That is an idiotic argument that would only maybe work if Thor was on DC Earth. But he isn't, and based on his feats he is more than capable of enduring so.

Why would you doubt the writer's words? LMAO

You doubt the writers words ALL THE TIME. There are entire pages filled with you ignoring on panel statements or even narration and dismissing it as hyperbole.

The one time, this type of logic would actually make sense, it unfortunately conflicts with making Superman look good.

Or do you think the scientist chick was including obscure heroes like Captain Atom or Zauriel? Or how about villains like Black Adam? Hell, why not guys like Phantom Stranger or Spectre, maybe even the Presence, since they are both on Earth?


Originally posted by abhilegend
LOLWUT? They matched in strength lock just a page before. There was no strength advantage for Zod there. With two hands and applying pressure on it. Striking and breaking two arms with a punch is FAR more impressive. Its not even worth talking to someone who can't understand what's so obvious.

I'm saying comics are inconsistent means powers fluctuate so wildly under a writer? Sometimes I wonder, is there nothing but air in between your ears?

They were peers in strength, which is exactly my point. You don't need to be Above Herald level, much less Trans, to break the bones of a herald level character. At least under this writer.

What? He squeezed Clark's arm and pulled with a single hand while the second arm was barely around Clark:
http://s23.postimg.org/upggjrz57/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_005_019.jpg

Please don't throw around words like applying pressure if you do not know what they mean.

You ignored complementary evidence from the same writer and brushed it off as saying comics are inconsistent. So yes, that is exactly what you meant.

HP DD 10/10
Nu DD 8/10 (if BFR is an option)
Gog Wars DD 10/10
DOS DD 5/10

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They were peers in strength, which is exactly my point. You don't need to be Above Herald level, much less Trans, to break the bones of a herald level character. At least under this writer.

What? He squeezed Clark's arm and pulled with a single hand while the second arm was barely around Clark:


Please don't throw around words like applying pressure if you do not know what they mean.


The funny thing is Zod was in no way in any position to break Superman's arm. Superman's arm was bent so it's hard to imagine he just pulled it and broke it. It doesn't look like he just jammed it in and broke it. And the bent angle and his gently holding Superman's arm doesn't look like he just bent it in a way to snap it. Did he bend it up or something and snap it, but then shoulders bend quite a ways so...

srug

Whatever he did, he was in no way in an advantageous position to do so.

Breaking bones with strikes isn't unheard of. What Zod did was just weird. Still impressive though.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL...
Also, lol at you bringing up speed fts that's 30 plus years old. Do I honesty have to post all of Hulks speed fts?


How about this, either post some fts backing your claim or concede.

Hulk isn't even in this thread, so why would you bring him up. Stop derailing the thread.

Seriously dude , you seem extremely biased about the Hulk.

Instead of posting scans of unknown speedsters moving at unknown speeds you could just have posted scans of Hulk hitting Quicksilver or Surfer or somebody.

And heck for that matter I can point out several occasions of Thor doing stuff like tagging surfer actually using his speed and it would still mean less than nothing

If we could categorise every person who has ever hit a speedster as a speedster , Captain Cold and Heatwave would be blitzing Zoom by now

There are any number of things you need to ignore to take Hulks speed showinhs seriously whether it be his presentation from day 1 as a dude whom every street leveller fights with the oh so original strategy of "Hmmm theres only one way to survive this.....dodge like crazy!" Or his almost complete lack of speed feats OUTISDE fights to justify any of his showings within fights


Heres the type of logic I go by
Wally West rescues half a million people after a nuke detonates. But Superman tags him anyway .Thats PIS

Superman himself does things like escape the pull of a black hole after accelerating from zero to lightspeed in a couple of panels, reacts in nanoseconds etc. But people lik Toyman with ZERO speed feats are presented as a threat to him . PIS

And finally Silver Surfer does things like scour the planet in the time strange finishes a sentence, fights Deathruge at explicitly FTL speeds etc vs Thor who has decent speedfeats to the extent of microseconds but is nowhere close to Surfer in terms of reaction speed. Thats again PIS

We come to Hulk . Or doomsday if you will.almost no quantifiable speed feats for either to come close to Thors own stuff.
Please note this is not one feat or even five for these guys. It is feats spread over decades , consistent with character presentation/ stuff outside fights

Id be happy to debate you on that matter but 1.this is not the thread for it 2. You need to set certain standards for said characters and not go "every feat counts, never mind they cobtradict decades of consistent showings!" Otherwise this is going to turn into "Hulk can thunderclap through dimensions! Thor can kill celestials that Skyfathers cant!"


And hey even if you ignore everything else whats to stop Thor from just flying waay out of reach and doing whatever the hell he pleases from range(Godblast after charging up in say the moon and returning to deliver the blow on earth) anything really

A moderator has asked us to stop discussing Hulk it seems

So anyway Thor flies up , up and away and does whatever he pleases at his leisure to Doomsday

Or he straight up beats the crap out of the dude with zero speed feats

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Seriously dude , you seem extremely biased about the Hulk.

You must be new here

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Any fight between Thor and Hulk that lasts more than one panel is utter PIS given
1. Thor can just dimension dump the dude anytime he likes/ any other exotic stuff with his hammer

2.Thor can just throw him into space .....and thats that

3. Even ignoring 1 and 2 , Thor's reaction speed is so far above Bruce " I cant land a hit on street levellers jumping about for oh 5 decades now" Banner, its not even funny.

Besides, Thor's stronger anyway and while the difference in strength isn't too much, it does make a difference when you can land about a 100 hits before your opponent can respond

Similarly Thor vs Doomsday isnt really a battle....Its just a question of how quickly Thor decides to BFR him

This is not CBR.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
HP DD 10/10
Nu DD 8/10 (if BFR is an option)
Gog Wars DD 10/10
DOS DD 5/10 lmao

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Can Doomsday bring down the God of Thunder? depends on the DD

HP DD kills thor relatively effortlessly 10/10

DOS DD vs Thor can go either way depending on how thor fights

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lmao My favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.

I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:

Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).

That means DD beats up Thor 8/10

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
DD beats up Thor 8/10

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, Hulk isn't in this thread. Stop.

I know right.

Originally posted by The Gray Ghost
Seriously dude , you seem extremely biased about the Hulk.

Instead of posting scans of unknown speedsters moving at unknown speeds you could just have posted scans of Hulk hitting Quicksilver or Surfer or somebody.

And heck for that matter I can point out several occasions of Thor doing stuff like tagging surfer actually using his speed and it would still mean less than nothing

If we could categorise every person who has ever hit a speedster as a speedster , Captain Cold and Heatwave would be blitzing Zoom by now

There are any number of things you need to ignore to take Hulks speed showinhs seriously whether it be his presentation from day 1 as a dude whom every street leveller fights with the oh so original strategy of "Hmmm theres only one way to survive this.....dodge like crazy!" Or his almost complete lack of speed feats OUTISDE fights to justify any of his showings within fights


Heres the type of logic I go by
Wally West rescues half a million people after a nuke detonates. But Superman tags him anyway .Thats PIS

Superman himself does things like escape the pull of a black hole after accelerating from zero to lightspeed in a couple of panels, reacts in nanoseconds etc. But people lik Toyman with ZERO speed feats are presented as a threat to him . PIS

And finally Silver Surfer does things like scour the planet in the time strange finishes a sentence, fights Deathruge at explicitly FTL speeds etc vs Thor who has decent speedfeats to the extent of microseconds but is nowhere close to Surfer in terms of reaction speed. Thats again PIS

We come to Hulk . Or doomsday if you will.almost no quantifiable speed feats for either to come close to Thors own stuff.
Please note this is not one feat or even five for these guys. It is feats spread over decades , consistent with character presentation/ stuff outside fights

Id be happy to debate you on that matter but 1.this is not the thread for it 2. You need to set certain standards for said characters and not go "every feat counts, never mind they cobtradict decades of consistent showings!" Otherwise this is going to turn into "Hulk can thunderclap through dimensions! Thor can kill celestials that Skyfathers cant!"


And hey even if you ignore everything else whats to stop Thor from just flying waay out of reach and doing whatever the hell he pleases from range(Godblast after charging up in say the moon and returning to deliver the blow on earth) anything really

A moderator has asked us to stop discussing Hulk it seems

So anyway Thor flies up , up and away and does whatever he pleases at his leisure to Doomsday

Or he straight up beats the crap out of the dude with zero speed feats

Do you have an attention span problem? -Pr- just said to stay on topic. Why not just make a thread on the way that you feel? This isn't the place to do it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The funny thing is Zod was in no way in any position to break Superman's arm. Superman's arm was bent so it's hard to imagine he just pulled it and broke it. It doesn't look like he just jammed it in and broke it. And the bent angle and his gently holding Superman's arm doesn't look like he just bent it in a way to snap it. Did he bend it up or something and snap it, but then shoulders bend quite a ways so...

srug

Whatever he did, he was in no way in an advantageous position to do so.

Breaking bones with strikes isn't unheard of. What Zod did was just weird. Still impressive though.



Zod was actually in a terrible position to break Superman's arm and he did it relatively easily.

Doomsday was also a weird scene but at least it look like he struck Diana right below her joints:
http://s23.postimg.org/ofl6wrzqj/Superman_Wonder_Woman_2013_002_002.jpg

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
My favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.

I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:

Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).

That means DD beats up Thor 8/10 you pretty much nailed it with the first line. Kal-Qaeda sees something that is or can be linked to how superman is viewed and then everything they post after that thought crosses their mind is forever altered in order to make him look good.

it's not even about doomsday

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lmao

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
My favorite part is he just sees a Superman character and gives him the win even if he knows nothing about him.

I just quickly skimmed through the issue yesterday and Nu DD made what, like 3 portals that he teleported through? So that leaves what he knows about Doomsday restricted to like two things since he clearly did not read the issue or even pay attention to the scans that were likely posted. Those two things would be:

Superman ripped DD in half (no prior knowledge apparently), and DD beat up WW (assuming he knows this).

That means DD beats up Thor 8/10

Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.

So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.

See ya .

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.

So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.

See ya . you're comparing a low feat of thor's to the best dd feats he has. got it

the tutinax thing was a joke (i hope), if not i can gladly do a battlezone over it

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Kids, calm down, everything's gonna be ok, papa is here.

So, Nu DD is the reason for your outrage and your "mimimimi you are biased" assault I guess. Well, he was a tier above Heralds, obviously. Some chars might appear once and be that way, think about Tutinax. Just because Superman defeated him doesn't mean it isn't that way. Think of DS who would push Thors shit in, he too was defeated, or his avatars, by Superman. That's not a low feat. On the contrary. Accept, breath and think boys.

See ya . I have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.

Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.

As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.

Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.

As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.



All he had to go on was that Superman ripped Doomsday in half. Naturally that was enough to give him 8/10 against Thor.

Did we ever see Zod finishing Doomsday?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I have no outrage, I just find it funny that you gave Thor two wins over DD due to BFR when anyone with even a mild attention span would have seen DD teleporting had they read the comic. Which indicates you did not.

Which would make DD beating Thor hilarious considering what you have to go on. Though full context is still funny as well.

As for your "defeated" comment, DS didn't get burned to a crisp and torn in half. And his only other feats aren't beating WW, getting stalemated and sliced through by WW, and getting defeated by Zod.

Thor can bfr people in other dimensions, magic in nature too, so . As said, think ma boy ^^.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Thor can bfr people in other dimensions, magic in nature too, so . As said, think ma boy ^^. Naturally that's what you were describing... Scrambling to a defense.

And why is BFR only a factor in the only Doomsday that can actually teleport? Afterall, Thor can BFR people to other dimensions! The Doomsday who clawed physical matter from the Phantom Zone, and who actually escaped it (though crumbling walls and all) is the guy who gets BFR'ed.

No, BFR is only relevant to Nu DC DD. Not Doomsday Wars DD who got BFR'ed. Or HP Doomsday, who got BFR'ed.

Let's face it. you know nothing about this Nu DD, and your comment about "one appearance and losing to Superman" doesn't help either.

Fine, don't listen to me. That's what I get for trying to be nice. Closed, and if I see this being brought up again in other threads, warnings or bannings will follow.

They're not mod suggestions. When a mod tells you to move on, you move. ****ing. On.