Jean Grey vs Magneto

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Time Immemorial
No disintegration allowed.

Takes place in front of the White House Lawn with the Stadium surrounding it. No one can leave.

Blood Lusted

The_Tempest
Magneto stomps Jean, but is in turn stomped by The Phoenix.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Magneto stomps Jean, but is in turn stomped by The Phoenix.

No disintegration from the Phoenix.

The_Tempest
Even so, Jean is still more powerful than Magneto.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Even so, Jean is still more powerful than Magneto.

Not from his latest showings.

The_Tempest
Doesn't matter. Per The Last Stand, Jean is a class 5 mutant whereas Magneto, for all his power, is a class 4. She's considerably more powerful.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Doesn't matter. Per The Last Stand, Jean is a class 5 mutant whereas Magneto, for all his power, is a class 4. She's considerably more powerful.

She doesn't have the feats to suggest she is more powerful other then some mutant in the 3rd movie suggesting so.

The_Tempest
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
She doesn't have the feats to suggest she is more powerful other then some mutant in the 3rd movie suggesting so.

Yeah... pretty sure it was a critical element of the entire plot and the whole point why Magneto wanted her as a weapon in the first place. Her lack of feats are irrelevant; the Phoenix has appeared exactly once whereas Magneto has feats across five full-length movies from which to draw. The Phoenix is more powerful than Magneto, it's a fact.

StealthRanger
There's always powerscaling

Magneto is vastly inferior to Jean in terms of raw power

Lestov16
The flood wave Jean held off is beyond any mass Magneto has lifted, including the stadium.

Firefly218
The Phoenix wins

StealthRanger
Originally posted by Lestov16
The flood wave Jean held off is beyond any mass Magneto has lifted, including the stadium.

And when you consider the Phoenix was being blocked from Jean's psyche at the time

Hell, you could make a case for the Phoenix's durability based off this (though you wouldn't get a very high one, surface area and whatnot)

jaden101
Does Jean kill anyone in any other way than disintegration? Seems a bit daft having bloodlust if the way she kills most people is disallowed. Either way, he's not gonna be much metal controlling when he's being thrown all over the place. He just lies on the kitchen floor like a helpless ***** when she's barely using a fraction of her power in X3.

Flyattractor
I would say it would depend on which acts faster. Can Jean reach into Maggy's head and smoosh his brain before He can ..uh I dunno...make the Iron Rich Wheaties she had for breakfast puree her insides?

StealthRanger
Telekinesis for starters. Crush him to a golf ball or less. Take off his helmet and mind**** him

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by jaden101
Does Jean kill anyone in any other way than disintegration? Seems a bit daft having bloodlust if the way she kills most people is disallowed. Either way, he's not gonna be much metal controlling when he's being thrown all over the place. He just lies on the kitchen floor like a helpless ***** when she's barely using a fraction of her power in X3.

laughing laughing

Time Immemorial
I'm a big fan of Jean but people like low ball her so bad because she got killed by wolverine, I quit sticking up for her. Wasn't worth the clown tactics people used.

StealthRanger
So Jean wins then?

Excellent

Epicurus
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Not from his latest showings.
Nope, he isn't. Her EMP readings clearly showcased that she was more powerful than him in the movie. Also, ripping apart matter atom by atom is a more impressive feat than lifting bridges or stadiums. All of which Phoenix could do as well, with complete ease.

But since disintegration is not allowed here, she could just prevent him from using his powers as she did with Scott.

Time Immemorial
Jean wins, lol

DTM
If Jean has access to her Phoenix powers, she wins, if she doesnt, Magneto wins.

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