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All of the sith are from the sacking of coruscant, there all random mook sith lords

lol trio undoubtedly.

Malgus and Lord Adraas was among the sacking so atleast the sith have 1 good fighter.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Malgus and Lord Adraas was among the sacking so atleast the sith have 1 good fighter.
nope

PT said in the OP "only random mook sith lords"

I'm going to go with the 50, quite solidly even. Additional foes after the first are cumulative. Rapidly at first, slows down a bit once you hit 'max that can attack at one time,' but also adding in fatigue factor the further you go. The 20th foe is worth more than the 19th is worth more than the 18th and etc..


Something you have to remember is during the sack, the other sith were fighting minor Jedi or even republic troopers, and thus the elite only had to deal with a few at a time. 50 kills in one battle is not too hard for a trio like this *if* there are occupying factors so they can take them on piecemeal, get breathers, and so. Which they do not have here. With this many at once? There's really no-where to move that's not more sith warriors. There will be no rest or reprieve. They will be under constant attack by more foes than they have limbs. Fatigue will set in *fast* because they have to go high power constantly (and even if they use a big attack to blow away a group at once, that'll leave them more out-of-breath than simply intensive fighting), and the sith warriors will not be getting tired.

Normally, if you're fighting a group, the more you kill, the easier it is, which can... mildly counterbalance the need to take a breath. But none of that here, one falls and it's only until the next steps in.


This is 17~ per Jedi! But! If any of them fall, the remnants of their share get re-allocated to the others.

Let's say, one of the trio two falls after taking out 11- and 11 sith warriors on their own is not an easy fight if done in a group, not remotely, even if there aren't additional attackers. Then the other two each have to take on 20~ a piece.

Another falls after 15 more- and I don't think Windu or Zallow can pull that off- Yoda now has to do 24.


And while Yoda will certainly have been inflicting casualties fast early on, he will get tired, he will slow down, and eventually exhaustion will get to him.



The only way to win is to freak out the opponents and get them to not fight as a group, and that's pretty hard to do when the opposition knows they have a 50-to-3 advantage.

Originally posted by Q99
I'm going to go with the 50, quite solidly even. Additional foes after the first are cumulative. Rapidly at first, slows down a bit once you hit 'max that can attack at one time,' but also adding in fatigue factor the further you go. The 20th foe is worth more than the 19th is worth more than the 18th and etc..


Something you have to remember is during the sack, the other sith were fighting minor Jedi or even republic troopers, and thus the elite only had to deal with a few at a time. 50 kills in one battle is not too hard for a trio like this *if* there are occupying factors so they can take them on piecemeal, get breathers, and so. Which they do not have here. With this many at once? There's really no-where to move that's not more sith warriors. There will be no rest or reprieve. They will be under constant attack by more foes than they have limbs. Fatigue will set in *fast* because they have to go high power constantly (and even if they use a big attack to blow away a group at once, that'll leave them more out-of-breath than simply intensive fighting), and the sith warriors will not be getting tired.

Normally, if you're fighting a group, the more you kill, the easier it is, which can... mildly counterbalance the need to take a breath. But none of that here, one falls and it's only until the next steps in.


This is 17~ per Jedi! But! If any of them fall, the remnants of their share get re-allocated to the others.

Let's say, one of the trio two falls after taking out 11- and 11 sith warriors on their own is not an easy fight if done in a group, not remotely, even if there aren't additional attackers. Then the other two each have to take on 20~ a piece.

Another falls after 15 more- and I don't think Windu or Zallow can pull that off- Yoda now has to do 24.


And while Yoda will certainly have been inflicting casualties fast early on, he will get tired, he will slow down, and eventually exhaustion will get to him.



The only way to win is to freak out the opponents and get them to not fight as a group, and that's pretty hard to do when the opposition knows they have a 50-to-3 advantage.

So true. Those sith are not mere apprentices after all.

Yoda solos, Mace can also likely solo.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
Yoda solos, Mace can also likely solo.


I cannot think of any Jedi or Sith who has ever overcome such odds with a saber in any era. Always when large kill counts have happened, it has been with accompanying forces so the enemies can be spaced out more, or against foes lower than this.


Nihilus could do so, through force eating, but that's a different story, a lot different than sabers or direct attack. Seriously, these are full warriors, they aren't the type of groups one can ignore, the Jedi will have to be running at high power to take out warriors while still defending against every attack, but they have limits, they'll slow down, slips will happen, one slip will build upon another.

Mace gets amped, and Yoda mops them up in a whirlwind of speed. Zallow finishes off whats left

Originally posted by carthage
Mace gets amped, and Yoda mops them up in a whirlwind of speed. Zallow finishes off whats left

Yea, whirlwind speed and such... is only going to last for so long.


Basically what's going to happen is they're going to hit the Sith warriors, they're going to kill a lot fast, then they're going to have to breath and the sith warriors are going to attack back. They'll defend, killing some with counterattacks, but now attacks will be coming fast and furious. Every time they cut one down another takes his place- and this'll be while blocking force pushes and such too, and force-pushing warriors away just to make space but often without taking them out- and things'll get harder, one or two of them will get wounds, the Jedi get a second wind and attack them hard again!

... and while they'll inflict more casualties, one of them will fall, because they no longer had enough in them to push the attack and cover their back. The remaining two will be pressed even harder, their speed will be lower while their foes will not be, one of them will try and attack again, but this time won't have the juice, and will fall. Then the last, Yoda, exhausted, and still facing well over a dozen, will do all that he can before collapsing.




This is a fight that'll take a significant amount of time of pure, constant, non-stop fighting.


And like I said, I can't think of anyone winning against foes of this level in these numbers, ever. Non-force users, apprentices, dark adepts and such, sure. But these are above-average sith warriors. Elite mooks. And you can only take down so many elite mooks.

Originally posted by Q99
And like I said, I can't think of anyone winning against foes of this level in these numbers, ever. Non-force users, apprentices, dark adepts and such, sure. But these are above-average sith warriors. Elite mooks. And you can only take down so many elite mooks.
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Originally posted by Q99
I cannot think of any Jedi or Sith who has ever overcome such odds with a saber in any era. Always when large kill counts have happened, it has been with accompanying forces so the enemies can be spaced out more, or against foes lower than this.


Nihilus could do so, through force eating, but that's a different story, a lot different than sabers or direct attack. Seriously, these are full warriors, they aren't the type of groups one can ignore, the Jedi will have to be running at high power to take out warriors while still defending against every attack, but they have limits, they'll slow down, slips will happen, one slip will build upon another. one jedi killed 100 veteran mandos at a time during the SOC

Originally posted by PTforthewin
one jedi killed 100 veteran mandos at a time during the SOC

SOC?



And still, that's non-force users. Even a veteran mandalorian (who's not, like, a Fett or simpler boss-level mando) is a good deal lower than a full sith warrior. And was it really all at once, or just 100 during a battle, smaller groups at a time?




Originally posted by Emperordmb
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Neither Jedi nor Sith

Heck, I can name non-One force users who can manage.

That's true. No jedi/sith could solo those 50 sith warriors other than Nihilus. And even with him we can't be sure.

Ven Zallow takes 5-6. Windu takes around 10 and Yoda takes around 15. They don't stand a chance.