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Lightning Lad
Cosmic Boy
Star Boy
Timber Wolf
Saturn Girl
Val Armorr
Element Lad

Vs

Cyclops
Wolverine
Night Crawler
Beast
Colossus
Storm
Emma

Legion.

If Storm plays her card right she could take out a group of them.

Lol. Not with starboy weighing het down.

Legion but they have a huge fight on their hands. Some X-Men would win against some of the Legion as well depending on the match ups. Wolverine vs Timber Wolf is one example.

Depending on which TW.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Depending on which TW.

Are you talking about the Sasquatch looking TW? If so you may be right maybe.

This isnt really a fight.

Lightning lad> cyclops
Saturn girl> Emma
Starboy> storm
Timber Wolf> beast
Karate Kid> logan
Cosmic boy> colossus = non fight.

Val versus Wolverine would be fun to watch

Storm can possibly solos should she use her powers right. She won't so it's a toss up.

The Legion.

Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Storm can possibly solos should she use her powers right. She won't so it's a toss up.

Well, the same could be said for Element Lad. The guy can transmute people into air, or make up domes made of Inertron that even Superman can't break out of..

Wolverine as an air pocket with claws...damn that healing factor!

But seriously, the Legion have this one fairly well in hand.

Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Storm can possibly solos should she use her powers right. She won't so it's a toss up.

O_o ???

Cosmic boy can BFR Colossus and Logan into deep space in the blink of an eye and counter most of Stroms abilities with his magnetics which is damn close to magneto level.

Element Lad can point at anyone from a far and alter their atoms into any substance he wants with a thought.

Starboy can increase the gravity to the point none of the xmen can even raise their heads to see to attack.

Saturn Girl has galactic level TP feats.

And Val has soloed several Krytonians and Daxamites, plus can see the weakness in anything and can punch or chop to shatter and diamond.

But storm solos???

Originally posted by beatboks
O_o ???

Cosmic boy can BFR Colossus and Logan into deep space in the blink of an eye and counter most of Stroms abilities with his magnetics which is damn close to magneto level.

Element Lad can point at anyone from a far and alter their atoms into any substance he wants with a thought.

Starboy can increase the gravity to the point none of the xmen can even raise their heads to see to attack.

Saturn Girl has galactic level TP feats.

And Val has soloed several Krytonians and Daxamites, plus can see the weakness in anything and can punch or chop to shatter and diamond.

But storm solos???

All of what you named can be countered by a suffocating tornado at the speed of thought while simultaneously flash freezing them and dehydrating them or something similar. Her powers are insane if she ever uses them.

So.....she doesn't use them? Has she ever done that, DarkRaiden? As in simultaneously like how you've said?

I dont think she can.
Her powers dont work at the speed of thought. She still has to play with existing weather patterns.
While i cant say i've ever seen her flash freeze anyone (again, time), i did see her dehydrate Magneto once. It was in no way a quick process.
This is just a simple misunderstanding of her powerset?

That is what I thought.

Even If she could do that, her reflexes, durability etc, is still just human.

legion

The X-men aren't doomed- mainly thanks to 'Crawler. If Kurt acting right and with a bit of luck, he may be able to take out Starboy, Elemental Lad, and the like, who are dangerous but squishy.

I wouldn't think even with luck he could take down more than two before stopped, but that'd put the X-men back in the first.


That said, Legion victory is the more likely.

Here's how this fight goes. Karate Kid jumps into the ranks of the X-men headfirst, proceeds to beat Logan, Kurt, Hank, and Peter to death, then Cosmic boy picks up Logan and Peter's dead bodies, he makes Logan evicerate Scott and Emma and makes Peter beat Storm to death, and then the Legionares are awarded medals for eradicating the mutant menace.

Originally posted by deathslash
Here's how this fight goes. Karate Kid jumps into the ranks of the X-men headfirst, proceeds to beat Logan, Kurt, Hank, and Peter to death, then Cosmic boy picks up Logan and Peter's dead bodies, he makes Logan evicerate Scott and Emma and makes Peter beat Storm to death, and then the Legionares are awarded medals for eradicating the mutant menace.

deathslash of Earth: You have great rage in your heart. You belong to the Red Lantern Corps.

Eeyikes!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
deathslash of Earth: You have great rage in your heart. You belong to the Red Lantern Corps. I just gotta be a realist. Val can solo Logan (he doesn't even have a healing factor right now), Peter (he's far to slow to hit val and KK has dealt with Kryptonians and Daxamites on multiple occasions), Hank (unless he has prep time, he's a nonfactor in a fight agains Karate Kid) and Kurt (he's fast but once again, Val's dealt with Daxamites). Truth be told, Val doesn't even have to deal with logan or peter because Cosmic boy could tool them with ease. Let's be honest here, the humans would probably reward the Legionares for taking down the X-men. It's not hate, I'm just being realistic. The Legion heas the potential to stomp in this fight.

Anybody remember when Val "ducked" out of lightning in the Lightning Saga?

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/KK_zps4ce05232.jpg
http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/KK2_zpsf5d9d865.jpg

This proves...?

Originally posted by riv6672
This proves...?

He's faster then lightning?

And not even real lightning. That's actually Wally West in speed force form.

Oh thank God!

I saw a debate once where a guy claimed DC and MU lightning moved at different speeds. Had quite a scare when i saw the above post!

Originally posted by riv6672
I dont think she can.
Her powers dont work at the speed of thought. She still has to play with existing weather patterns.
While i cant say i've ever seen her flash freeze anyone (again, time), i did see her dehydrate Magneto once. It was in no way a quick process.
This is just a simple misunderstanding of her powerset?

Untrue. Her powers have been stated to work at the speed of thought and even faster than a conscious thought before. And when she dehydrated Magneto she PURPOSEFULLY did it slow as Cyclops demanded so he wouldn't notice.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That is what I thought.

Even If she could do that, her reflexes, durability etc, is still just human.

Her reflexes are higher, but her durability seems to be pretty much human yes.


Flash freezing:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/4762/1082337-haltingandflashfreezing.jpg

A different time
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/4762/1077168-frozencolossus8kl.jpg

Another different time:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/2501480-1447410_scan0022_super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/2501482-1447411_scan0023_super.jpg

Speed of thought/blink of an eye makes a tornado to batter phoenix:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30174/2704039-weakstormbattersphoenix.jpg

less than a thought to activate her powers:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/3387376-8088624241-lesst.jpg

on and off with a thought:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/3387389-7351890810-onand.jpg

multiple powers at once:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/3387373-5120909277-f5orf.jpg

I'm not buying it.
All kinds of things are stated by characters about each other. I've never seen anything from Storm to back upspeed of thought.
And, even if i did believe that, i dont believe thats going to let her solo a majority of the debate's Legion.

On the speed of thought. Some quotes that might help clarify why this isnt a "thing"...





The above just means Storm would be able to go: "By the Goddess, these strangers look formidable. Best i take the brunt of the assault on myself, and save my teammates possible harm."

That whole thought process might take only a moment, but its really no different than anyone else with a weapon, in her case, lets say lightning, which she still has to summon, or a twister, which she has to create, deciding to use it.

No one's ever made the point that Punisher can shoot you in the face at the speed of thought. But he can. Does it all the time.