Bane vs the Winter Soldier

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deathslash
1. Pre-Flashpoint Bane vs Winter Soldier
2. Nu52 Bane vs Winter Soldier

bonus round: Bane from the Dark Knight Rises movie has just taken a successful injection of Mirakuru (from the Arrow TV show) and he's fighting the Winter Soldier from the Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie.

All of these fights take place in Gotham City.

pym-ftw
Bane gets shot in the face.
Idk if current bane can take the taser

Don't follow arrow but unless he's bullet/knife proof Bane dies hard.

deathslash
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Bane gets shot in the face.
Idk if current bane can take the taser

Don't follow arrow but unless he's bullet/knife proof Bane dies hard. He loses even in Gotham where he has the home field advantage?

In Arrow, every person that has been injected with the serum shrugs off bullets like they're nothing. Black Canary even says to Diggle that a high powered sniper rifle might not be enough to put down Slade, so he'd have to make it a head shot. Also, a random thug that was injected with the serum shrugged off pistol shots like they were nothing and it took a five grenades exploding right underneath him to put him down. The serum also enhances the person's speed, agility, and strength to unreal levels. Soon after he was injected, Slade casually punched a hole in a man's sternum.

namorsubby
Bane.

deathslash
Originally posted by namorsubby
Bane. do you think he wins in all three?

AsbestosFlaygon
1. It will start as a draw, but Bane eventually loses.
Winter Soldier is stronger, faster, and never gets tired; I guess around 2x the physical capabilities of Bane. Bane's serum will eventually wear off, and that's where WS gets the upper hand.
Bane is a lot smarter though, so it's not a stomp in any stretch.

2. No idea of current Bane. Haven't read enough of the newer DC comics with Bane in it.

3. Bane kills WS with ease. Especially if WS dares to engage him in melee.

Galan007
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
2. No idea of current Bane. Haven't read enough of the newer DC comics with Bane in it. DCnU Bane has shit-canned pretty much all of Batman's other rogues(inc. Croc and Clayface.) He shredded through multiple Talons like they were fodder. He flung a massive stone structure across the room as though it was a paper weight. Batman, amped on the same Venom Bane uses, was able to make Superman's lip bleed after a few punches. Etc.

Golgo13
Bane. Bane's taken an electrical attack designed to kill metas, heat vision from Superbat, taken a huge explosion point blank, gun fire point blank, etc... People forget how durable he is.

BruceSkywalker
Bucky

Bane

Bucky

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Bucky

Bane

Bucky thumb up

Golgo13
How is WS stronger on VEMON?

namorsubby
Originally posted by deathslash
do you think he wins in all three?

I'd give bane the edge in round 1 and the definite win in round 2. I don't watch arrow so I have no opinion on round 3.

deathslash
Originally posted by namorsubby
I'd give bane the edge in round 1 and the definite win in round 2. I don't watch arrow so I have no opinion on round 3. read one of my above posts and you'll get a pretty good idea of what the serum can to peaple.

AsbestosFlaygon
Originally posted by Galan007
DCnU Bane has shit-canned pretty much all of Batman's other rogues(inc. Croc and Clayface.) He shredded through multiple Talons like they were fodder. He flung a massive stone structure across the room as though it was a paper weight. Batman, amped on the same Venom Bane uses, was able to make Superman's lip bleed after a few punches. Etc.
Does he retain his smarts in the current DCnU?

If what you say is true, and he still is as smart and intelligent as he was, then I'll have to concede.

Galan007
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Does he retain his smarts in the current DCnU?

If what you say is true, and he still is as smart and intelligent as he was, then I'll have to concede. Oh yes, DCnU Bane is highly intelligent--in fact, the Venom boosts his intelligence:
http://i.imgur.com/p0PVihC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MRWqgBE.jpg


I also wanted to post the scene where Bane casually hurls a massive stone structure across the room, because I think it is one of his best brute strength feats:
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19044537_0.jpg
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19044538_1.jpg
http://s5d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/19044539_2.jpg

F*cking insane.

AsbestosFlaygon
Shit man.
He must be around 5-10 tons strong with that new Venom.

Galan007
^ when you tack on his other feats, i'd say he's somewhere in that range for sure. thumb up

Khazra Reborn
Reslistically, if that thing is solid stone it'd be at least 20 tons. But I doubt the writer intended him to be that strong.

namorsubby
I think at least the artist did.

FistOfThe North
Arh. Bucky 3/3 times, man.

He's the more skillful fighter. Plus he's fast. Bane's more brute than anything. But don't let him catch you, ha.

This fight kinda reminds me of a fight I recently saw on a show called a game of thrones with someone called the mountain and a skillful warrior prince called Oberyn. The Mountain's the biggest man in the land, and is just a strong vicious barbarian and he tossed the prince around a few times during this fight but the prince defeated the big guy handily via skill but, crap happened and I don't wanna spoil it. And I probably did already, oh well. Now the winter soldier doesn't really talk and Bane is slower but again just don't let the big guy catch you is all. And I don't think Bucky would let himself be caught by Bane ever. He's just too fast and that smart for that. He's very anticipatory, as well ..

Golgo13
Bane is meta fast as well.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Golgo13
Bane is meta fast as well.

Faster than the winter soldier? Do you think he as anticipatory, as well?

deathslash
I highly doubt that Bane is faster than bucky.

Golgo13
Why?

Kazenji
Originally posted by Golgo13
Why?

Because its you no expression

Golgo13
Originally posted by Kazenji
Because its you no expression

No, its you. wink

Galan007
bane has some degree of increased speed for sure. a slow ock certainly isn't going to kill a team of multiple talons within a few seconds, after all:
http://i.imgur.com/K11BlQa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ULhzh1q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f9RkFys.jpg

and batman outright stated that bane was faster than himself:
http://i.imgur.com/YolnbdA.jpg

Golgo13
Pre-Flashpoint Bane was taking it to both Azrael and Batman at the same time.

And, yes, EASILY owning those Talons (Who also have enhanced speed and healing factors) was pretty insane.

h1a8
Shit from those feats I would say Bane is just as fast as Bucky if not faster. Batman is no slouch in speed and yet Bane is faster?

It was insane that Bane just casually ripped the head off one of those talons. Unbelievable!

Galan007
^ thumb up

bane can also jump several stories upward(hulk-style), and shred through steel structures like tissue paper:
http://i.imgur.com/RuXhmJp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qr4TkIz.jpg

for a size reference, here's a different view of the above tower:
http://i.imgur.com/3OXWcCM.jpg

another strength feat can be seen when he effortlessly lifted, and threw, a large boulder:
http://i.imgur.com/9BNcklP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qnRS745.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ja6mqE6.jpg
(not as uber of a strength feat as the one i posted earlier, but still impressive nonetheless.)


anywho...given bane's feats, not classifying him as a solid meta-class character would be a huge disservice to him, imo.

Golgo13
And like I said earlier, Bane is meta WITHOUT the venom. At least according to Batwoman.





http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/BN_zps4f552615.jpg

Galan007
^ 'recent' is the key word. the venom stays active in bane's system for a(yet unrevealed) duration of time--and while it's still in his system, he's got meta-level stats. with a fresh hit of venom, however, he can *arguably* step beyond that tier. how else do you explain him one-shotting clayface and owning multiple batman-rogues(inc. scarecrow, mister freeze, man-bat, croc, etc.) of whom were all amped on his venom at the time..?:
http://imgur.com/kXtXb1o
http://imgur.com/BJFAl7G
http://imgur.com/r7yaaDO
http://imgur.com/OgIQAiJ
http://imgur.com/RHzs2h1
http://imgur.com/uqhA2Qj
^^that is probably bane's best feat, tbh. the implications of it are...staggering.

deathslash
1. Bucky
2.Bane
3.possibly Bucky

YFZ 350
Bane sweeps.

JayDaDon
So how much venom was Bane on when Batman beat him?

deathslash
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Bane sweeps. there is no way in hell that Bane wins all three of these fights.Originally posted by JayDaDon
So how much venom was Bane on when Batman beat him? he had,just had two giant tubs of Venom being streamed into him.

Branlor Swift
Bane smashes the shit out of Bucky. The only way Bucky stands a chance is if he can master his new decapitating power mid battle.

deathslash
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Bane smashes the shit out of Bucky. The only way Bucky stands a chance is if he can master his new decapitating power mid battle. do you think Bane wins all three?

Branlor Swift
sure why not

AsbestosFlaygon
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Arh. Bucky 3/3 times, man.

He's the more skillful fighter. Plus he's fast. Bane's more brute than anything. But don't let him catch you, ha.

This fight kinda reminds me of a fight I recently saw on a show called a game of thrones with someone called the mountain and a skillful warrior prince called Oberyn. The Mountain's the biggest man in the land, and is just a strong vicious barbarian and he tossed the prince around a few times during this fight but the prince defeated the big guy handily via skill but, crap happened and I don't wanna spoil it. And I probably did already, oh well. Now the winter soldier doesn't really talk and Bane is slower but again just don't let the big guy catch you is all. And I don't think Bucky would let himself be caught by Bane ever. He's just too fast and that smart for that. He's very anticipatory, as well ..
But Bane's not just a barbarian. He's quite intelligent. In fact, he's a genius.

I think the current Bane might be too much for him.

iscaremonkeys
1? bane
2? how strong is bane compared to pre flashpoint

Galan007
2. much stronger. most of his noteworthy feats were posted on the last few pages.

deathslash
Originally posted by iscaremonkeys
1? bane
2? how strong is bane compared to pre flashpoint I'm pretty certain that bane would lose the first fight and bane is a lot stronger than he was pre-flashpoint.

pym-ftw
Bane isn't winning round 1.

Estacado
Bucky
Bane
Bane

deathslash
Originally posted by Estacado
Bucky
Bane
Bane just curious, why do you think bane wins the third fight?

Estacado
Mirakuru makes a normal human like Captain America lvl in strenght gives them insane durability.IIRC Ollie can only take mirakuru soldiers down by using explosive arrows and even then they get up.

Now imagine Bane who can punch through concrete on that stuff.
He might not be as skilled as Bucky but he will have insane durabilty it would be very difficulty for WS to hurt him.

IIRC it was said that Mirakuru makes muscles as dense as concrete.


Bane would be pretty dope on mirakuru.
sfmrdbU3AoM

deathslash
Originally posted by Estacado
Mirakuru makes a normal human like Captain America lvl in strenght gives them insane durability.IIRC Ollie can only take mirakuru soldiers down by using explosive arrows and even then they get up.

Now imagine Bane who can punch through concrete on that stuff.
He might not be as skilled as Bucky but he will have insane durabilty it would be very difficulty for WS to hurt him.

IIRC it was said that Mirakuru makes muscles as dense as concrete.


Bane would be pretty dope on mirakuru.
sfmrdbU3AoM well, Mirakuru doesn't make the muscles as dense as steel (otherwise ollie couldn't have stabbed cyris gold) but all of your other points are valid. But don't you think that Wintersoldier's heavy weapons, superior h2h skills, and super soldier strength could help put him down?

Estacado
Originally posted by deathslash
well, Mirakuru doesn't make the muscles as dense as steel (otherwise ollie couldn't have stabbed cyris gold) but all of your other points are valid. But don't you think that Wintersoldier's heavy weapons, superior h2h skills, and super soldier strength could help put him down?
If he get's his gear.(Granade launcher,machine gun etc)he wins off course but if it gets up close he loses.

Cap's and Bucky's durability is pretty crappy compared to mirakuru soldiers.

Supermutant
Bane breaks Bucky.

vansonbee
Originally posted by deathslash
1. Pre-Flashpoint Bane vs Winter Soldier
2. Nu52 Bane vs Winter Soldier

bonus round: Bane from the Dark Knight Rises movie has just taken a successful injection of Mirakuru (from the Arrow TV show) and he's fighting the Winter Soldier from the Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie.

All of these fights take place in Gotham City.
1. Winter Soldier

2. Bane

panthergod
Bane sweeps. WS has NEVER been his equal. Bucky can't beat Nightwing for a majority.

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