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H2H. Preboot Cyborg. Who wins?

Thor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Thor.
How is he putting down Hank? Just curious.

Whatever way annoys you the most. vin

Originally posted by -Pr-
Whatever way annoys you the most. vin


**** you.

I have no problem leaving this open, or merging it when I find the duplicate thread, but don't let it turn in to another "No, you're wrong to back Thor and this is why" thread.

Whatever gave you that idea?

whistling

Lol

Thor would certainly have a tough time based on the battle that Henshaw had with Doomsday. This really depends on the battlefield. Out in the open, Thor has a load of dishes to serve that would keep Henshaw on his heels. If they fought in a narrow space Henshaw would have an easier time getting the upper hand, but this does not mean that he would definitely dominate Thor.

I'll say one thing though, if Thor is unwilling to hold back, he's going to put some serious damage out.

^
Nothing Henshaw hasn't faced before. They are about even in strength, Thor has a durability edge and Henshaw can heal. Pretty even if you ask me.

Thor wins

Thor wins...8/10 but Hank makes him work for it.

Does h2h mean Thor can use amped punches?

Originally posted by SamZED
Does h2h mean Thor can use amped punches?
No, normal h2h fight.

H2H means no healing for Hank!!!!!

Shut up, I said he can't draw upon his technopathy and heal himself from the surroundings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention, in a featureless environment, he's not going to have so much as a toaster to draw raw material from.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shut up, I said he can't draw upon his technopathy and heal himself from the surroundings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not to mention, in a featureless environment, he's not going to have so much as a toaster to draw raw material from.
He can heal wounds on his own.

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ha-som

How long for?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How long for?
Combined with his durability? Enough to knock Thor out.

And as I said he was strong enough to break Mongul's wrist casually.

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Considering how tough classic Mongul was, that's a beastly feat.

Henshaw wins 7/10.

Thor wins

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor wins
Nuh-uh.

Thor, handily.

Thor also beat the Abomination pretty easily, so whatever Henshaw casually did to Mongul is matched here.

Originally posted by Stoic
Thor also beat the Abomination pretty easily.
When?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When? One shot punch I'd imagine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One shot punch I'd imagine.
Only time Thor has one-shotted Abomination is with a sucker punch.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
When?

Sorry you're correct, it wasn't the Abomination, I made a mistake it was Bi-Beast. Sorry typing error. I just caught that. It was Hercules that beat up the Abomination.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Only time Thor has one-shotted Abomination is with a sucker punch. Is that what you're telling yourself ? Interesting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is that what you're telling yourself ? Interesting.
That's what happened.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
That's what happened. Post the scan then.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sorry you're correct, it wasn't the Abomination, I made a mistake it was Bi-Beast. Sorry typing error. I just caught that. It was Hercules that beat up the Abomination.
Thor beat Bi-Beast with mjolnir.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor beat Bi-Beast with mjolnir. Your point ?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Only time Thor has one-shotted Abomination is with a sucker punch. is this the instance you're referring to?
http://i.imgur.com/vJEMKAH.jpg

if so, i dunno if i'd call that a sucker punch--not in the conventional sense at least. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
is this the instance you're referring to?
http://i.imgur.com/vJEMKAH.jpg

if so, i dunno if i'd call that a sucker punch--not in the conventional sense at least. /shrug
I'd still call it somewhat of a sucker punch only because he wasn't expecting it. Not as bad as someone getting totally blindsided though.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'd still call it somewhat of a sucker punch only because he wasn't expecting it. Not as bad as someone getting totally blindsided though. He was staring right at him. Does he have to say, I am going to punch you now ?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'd still call it somewhat of a sucker punch only because he wasn't expecting it. Not as bad as someone getting totally blindsided though. yeah, i guess it depends how you define a sucker punch. my personal thoughts on a legit a sucker punch are pretty much synonymous with getting blindsided, though. /shrug

regardless, i can agree that abomination was likely caught off-guard by thor's punch.

All in all it still shows that Thor is more than capable of contending with Henshaw in this thread.

Originally posted by Galan007
is this the instance you're referring to?
http://i.imgur.com/vJEMKAH.jpg

if so, i dunno if i'd call that a sucker punch--not in the conventional sense at least. /shrug
Abom was recovering from mental control and Thor himself says that a "sudden blow" will do the trick. No different from Martian Manhunter knocking out Captain Marvel with an uppercut even though Cap was looking directly at him just after Cap was released from mental control.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics235.jpg


srug

Originally posted by Stoic
All in all it still shows that Thor is more than capable of contending with Henshaw in this thread.
Capable, sure. More than capable? Don't think so. Thor hasn't shown the capability of breaking bones of top tiers with pure strength.

Hank.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Capable, sure. More than capable? Don't think so. Thor hasn't shown the capability of breaking bones of top tiers with pure strength. He doesn't need to use pure strength. His power has annihilated Surfer and Warlock as a team. His power has killed Durok despite exhaustion. His power has made a weakened Galactus flee for his life. Strength is only one variable here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
H2H. Preboot Cyborg. Who wins?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor still. Hank isn't that durable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was staring right at him. Does he have to say, I am going to punch you now ?
Yes.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Yes. No.

Originally posted by Galan007
is this the instance you're referring to?
http://i.imgur.com/vJEMKAH.jpg

if so, i dunno if i'd call that a sucker punch--not in the conventional sense at least. /shrug
Yes that's the scan.

Punching someone in the face when they aren't expecting it, in this case Thor punching Emil while he was mid-sentence is a suckershot. It's often is posted without the context and claimed as a legit one-shot which it wasn't, hence why I was confused by Stoics post.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor still. Hank isn't that durable.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Nope. His healing is enough to repair any damage Thor can dish out.

Thor obviously.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor obviously.
Obviously? Not so fast Ragey boy. Tell me how he even beats Hank.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Capable, sure. More than capable? Don't think so. Thor hasn't shown the capability of breaking bones of top tiers with pure strength.
Wtf? Dude has carved uru metal with his bare hands. He's also broken out of Gorr's chains which no god before has ever done.

Sometimes I worry about you.

And the thinly veiled implication that Thor can't match Hank's strength feats. Because apparently breaking bones is the only real measure of strength.

Some posts are just so dumb, it's not even worth responding to.

I don't know how nobody mentions Thor shockwave busting planets in his fight with Gorr, when WBH did it everyone thought he was trans or something, then when Thor does it hardly gets a mention.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I don't know how nobody mentions Thor shockwave busting planets in his fight with Gorr, when WBH did it everyone thought he was trans or something, then when Thor does it hardly gets a mention.

Hulk has that effect on readers. It's one of his lesser known but most effective powers.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I don't know how nobody mentions Thor shockwave busting planets in his fight with Gorr, when WBH did it everyone thought he was trans or something, then when Thor does it hardly gets a mention.
Simple.

It's what separates overzealous Hulk fans from well-mannered Thor fans.

Lol. Thor fans are just as bad.

Then again, when Thor had the God Bomb feat, it was cool but it wasn't shoved in everyone's faces in every thread for like 2 weeks similar to Superman ripping apart Doomsday.

Hank's fight with DD was pretty impressive in it's own right.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Hank's fight with DD was pretty impressive in it's own right. It was.

Hank

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wtf? Dude has carved uru metal with his bare hands. He's also broken out of Gorr's chains which no god before has ever done.

Sometimes I worry about you.
And? Breaking top tier bones>>breaking uru or whatever metal short of breaking adamantium.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And the thinly veiled implication that Thor can't match Hank's strength feats. Because apparently breaking bones is the only real measure of strength.

Some posts are just so dumb, it's not even worth responding to.
And you are so butthurt, its not even funny. When did anybody say anything about Thor unable to match Hank's strength?

Remain butthurt rage.Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I don't know how nobody mentions Thor shockwave busting planets in his fight with Gorr, when WBH did it everyone thought he was trans or something, then when Thor does it hardly gets a mention.
Because Hulk was vaporizing top tiers. Thor was barely affecting Gorr. There are astronomical differences between those two scenes other than "LOL. planet busting"
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol. Thor fans are just as bad.

Then again, when Thor had the God Bomb feat, it was cool but it wasn't shoved in everyone's faces in every thread for like 2 weeks similar to Superman ripping apart Doomsday.
Hahaha, this guy and his butthurt. One is a totally unquantifiable power feat which has no applications in a forum fight and one is a strength feat.

But according to Rage, both are totally equivalent.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nothing Henshaw hasn't faced before. They are about even in strength, Thor has a durability edge and Henshaw can heal. Pretty even if you ask me. this

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? Breaking top tier bones>>breaking uru or whatever metal short of breaking adamantium.

See now you're just being daft.

First off this...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And the thinly veiled implication that Thor can't match Hank's strength feats. Because apparently breaking bones is the only real measure of strength.

Some posts are just so dumb, it's not even worth responding to.
But let's stay at your level and keep playing.
He's caved in Surfer's head with a butt. Satisfied?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
See now you're just being daft.

First off this... I said they were even in strength.

And? Surfer wasn't really a physical being in that run. Honestly birds being able to rend his stomach asunder?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I said they were even in strength.

And? Surfer wasn't really a physical being in that run. Honestly birds being able to rend his stomach asunder?
Omg. It is so true about they say. One literally loses brain cells debating you.

That was Norrin letting the birds feed on his stomach. Emphasis on LETTING. He was being his usual weird, emo, philosophical self and wanted to experience "the chain of life and death" as was explicitly shown in the comic.

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He survived multiple hammer shots without a dent and you come here with that nonsense about him not really a physical being on that run. I swear why do I even dignify you're responses?

Again you are either ignoring then spinning what's on panel to suit your argument or you really can't properly digest what writers and artists put in these books.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Omg. It is so true about they say. One literally loses brain cells debating you. I can say the same about you.

I know. Why would LETTING them do that means he was less durable? I don't think it was implied that he could manipulate his own durability.


That's not my argument. Rage has said that to me ironically.



And are you suggesting Thor's headbutt was more powerful than his mjolnir shots?



Blame rage for that argument. But denting Surfer's head has nothing on tearing Doomsday clones in half.

Lol at the birds comment. Also, Norrin can revert himself from his shiny armor to a human form so it's obvious he can control his durability. It's also obvious he allowed the birds to pick away at him. One thing that is also obvious is the head bunt dent Thor or gave him.

Head bunt?

Hush before I head bunt you.

You'll crack your own head open.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You'll crack your own head open.

God damn it. I like Superman as a character but what is it about him that attracts quite possibly the worst people that have ever logged on to a forum.

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"Why are you letting birds eat your guts?

I'm feeding the vultures with my flesh."

Clearly this means that Surfer suddenly has shit durability instead of just letting them fed on him in order to not accept that Thor denting his head is a ridiculously good feat.

It's not as if this same writer has had Surfer manipulate his body by removing his Silver coating or turn into actual snow.

But perhaps my favorite part is this:
http://s7.postimg.org/5lgbtsciz/22_02_2012_05.jpg

"He bashed your head with his own so hard once that it actually dented your skull."

Clearly the writer thinks that scene was meant to indicate ridiculous strength and the idea of someone performing a feat was enough to make Surfer agree to help.

I have to say that Thor denting the Surfer's head with his own is one of the sillier things I've seen in comics. Then the dent disappears a panel later. Just plain stupid. Then again, the Surfer has worse showings.

The entirety of the Thor/Surfer and Odin/Big G fight was silly.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I can say the same about you.

I know. Why would LETTING them do that means he was less durable? I don't think it was implied that he could manipulate his own durability.

Right.... So you can't accept what's in front of your eyes even though he's a notorious matter manipulator..
Anyways Rage's scans pretty much speak for themselves.. So that's that. You lose this argument.
Originally posted by abhilegend

That's not my argument. Rage has said that to me ironically.



And are you suggesting Thor's headbutt was more powerful than his mjolnir shots?
Sigh... I'm suggesting his head-butt is powerful enough to dent top tier skulls. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by abhilegend

Blame rage for that argument. But denting Surfer's head has nothing on tearing Doomsday clones in half.

Ah so now you take back your proclamation that Thor lacks the strength to break the bones of top tiers with strength alone? Good. You inch closer to growth and enlightenment.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I said they were even in strength.

And? Surfer wasn't really a physical being in that run. Honestly birds being able to rend his stomach asunder? You just said he wasn't a physical being.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
God damn it. I like Superman as a character but what is it about him that attracts quite possibly the worst people that have ever logged on to a forum.

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"Why are you letting birds eat your guts?

I'm feeding the vultures with my flesh."

Clearly this means that Surfer suddenly has shit durability instead of just letting them fed on him in order to not accept that Thor denting his head is a ridiculously good feat.

It's not as if this same writer has had Surfer manipulate his body by removing his Silver coating or turn into actual snow.

But perhaps my favorite part is this:
http://s7.postimg.org/5lgbtsciz/22_02_2012_05.jpg

"He bashed your head with his own so hard once that it actually dented your skull."

Clearly the writer thinks that scene was meant to indicate ridiculous strength and the idea of someone performing a feat was enough to make Surfer agree to help.
Hah, you were the one who were trying to insinuate Surfer got his skull dented had to do with the fact that Surfer wasn't actually a physical being on ICT and now blaming me for that? What's with Thorbags and ****ing hypocrisy?Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Right.... So you can't accept what's in front of your eyes even though he's a notorious matter manipulator..
Anyways Rage's scans pretty much speak for themselves.. So that's that. You lose this argument. Heh, if only ICT was alive I could copy/paste Rage's own argument against him. But no problem with that atm.

And his hammer throws aren't? Weird logic.

Denting=breaking now?

I said Surfer wasn't a "physical being"? What thread and what was the basis of my argument?

And when was this because I can't even remember having this discussion.

Matt Fraction had Surfer as a malleable entity due to his nature (Turning into snow, not being bothered by a dented skull) but he was still very much a physical entity that had impressive durability.

But more importantly, what kind of rebuttal is that?

How do my earlier posts (Assuming you are correct and being honest which based on your history I'm doubting) change your posts in this thread?

It wasn't as if your initial reply was to me or something. If I said something stupid that one time on that one board, how does that justify you saying something equally stupid to a different poster in a different board later?

Usually I wouldn't care at this point but I'm legit curious how you think this makes any sense.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I said Surfer wasn't a "physical being"? What thread and what was the basis of my argument?

And when was this because I can't even remember having this discussion.

Matt Fraction had Surfer as a malleable entity due to his nature (Turning into snow, not being bothered by a dented skull) but he was still very much a physical entity that had impressive durability.

But more importantly, what kind of rebuttal is that?

How do my earlier posts (Assuming you are correct and being honest which based on your history I'm doubting) change your posts in this thread?

It wasn't as if your initial reply was to me or something. If I said something stupid that one time on that one board, how does that justify you saying something equally stupid to a different poster in a different board later?

Usually I wouldn't care at this point but I'm legit curious how you think this makes any sense.
The argument where you backtracked upon your own argument that Galactus was less durable than Surfer due to Thor punching through his head. I don't think you'd remember that though, you tripped on your own words.

Coming from you? The guy who openly quoted what I said on ICT here in an effort to mock me?

****ing lulz bro. You're the Hypocrite Supreme for a reason.

Anyway denting Surfer's forehead is a great showing but its not really breaking bones. Not when Surfer probably didn't have any bones under Fraction.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The argument where you backtracked upon your own argument that Galactus was less durable than Surfer due to Thor punching through his head. I don't think you'd remember that though, you tripped on your own words.

Coming from you? The guy who openly quoted what I said on ICT here in an effort to mock me?

****ing lulz bro. You're the Hypocrite Supreme for a reason.

Anyway denting Surfer's forehead is a great showing but its not really breaking bones. Not when Surfer probably didn't have any bones under Fraction.



I said Galactus was less durable than Surfer? Okay, now I know you're lying.

Almost certainly, someone (Or me) posted Thor's feat of bashing through Galactus' skull. And you almost certainly in your typical lowballing fashion, tried to lowball the feat by posting Surfer surviving a Mjolnir throw to try and dismiss the feat.

When the board goes back up, we'll see.

But you weren't responding or directing the post to me. You were posting the "Surfer is not a physical being" argument to Celehyuga.

Referencing ICT is fine. Trying to justify an argument by referencing an argument made by a completely separate poster that Celehya hadn't even known about however is laughable.

He literally dented his skull backward. With a headbutt.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I said Galactus was less durable than Surfer? Okay, now I know you're lying. Nah, that's not how it happened.



Not how it happened either.

We will.

Which is your argument. I just believed your words.



I was just spreading your gospel bro.

And? As surfer's body was malleable as you yourself stated, its not the same as breaking somebody's bones. C'mon rage, Thor must've one showing in 60 years where he breaks a top tier's bones with a strike or anything like that. NO?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And his hammer throws aren't? Weird logic.

Denting=breaking now?

Smh.. Same reason Mjolnir doesn't put a hole through top tier's chests every time it's called or thrown. A feat is a feat. Don't make more complicated than it is.

Are you daft? Metals usually bend while more brittle things like bones break.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? As surfer's body was malleable as you yourself stated, its not the same as breaking somebody's bones. C'mon rage, Thor must've one showing in 60 years where he breaks a top tier's bones with a strike or anything like that. NO?
I've never seen Superman destroy a planet. He must not have planet destroying strength. Again.. Smh....

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nah, that's not how it happened.

Not how it happened either.

We will.

Which is your argument. I just believed your words.



I was just spreading your gospel bro.

It may have been my argument once (Not saying it was) but it's YOUR argument now.

I might not have even seen your posts and you guys would still have been discussing this shit.

Originally posted by abhilegend
And? As surfer's body was malleable as you yourself stated, its not the same as breaking somebody's bones. C'mon rage, Thor must've one showing in 60 years where he breaks a top tier's bones with a strike or anything like that. NO?

Thor hit his skull so hard with a headbutt to the point it was visible:
http://s28.postimg.org/krmwx4lal/Mighty_Thor03_008_009.jpg

Being able to manipulate his body when he chooses does not mean that his physical durability is any less. It in no way diminishes Thor's feat.

It just means that when Surfer is grievously injured in a way that would kill someone else, he'll survive and bounce back. Under this particular writer anyway.

What a stupid thing to say. Why is breaking bones the only measure of physical strength?

Like I said in my earlier post:

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Smh.. Same reason Mjolnir doesn't put a hole through top tier's chests every time it's called or thrown. A feat is a feat. Don't make more complicated than it is. Oh right. Now we have to take a feat and discard anything else. We can have so much fun with that.

That's some real good logic right there.


That's as random as anything I've seen. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It may have been my argument once (Not saying it was) but it's YOUR argument now. Is it?

And?



We got it by reading the comic.

Ok?

Who said it is? Its a nice way to showcase strength though.

Pr, you've been more active in the threads. I'm thinking of 2-4 people who are getting temp banned. PM me if you want to trade notes on these people.