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KMC, pick a herald that could defeat Cyborg Superman on Cybertron.

1) 1 herald
2) 2 heralds
3) 1 Trans
4) 1 herald, 1 trans

NO BFR!

it'd have to be a herald that has no qualms with atomizing the planet immediately after the onset of the battle--as that is the only way to beat THE god of technopathy on a planet comprised entirely of tech/machinery.

imo.

Morg
Terrax & Surfer
Ultron
MS Zemo & Graviton.

Magneto?

Jack Hawksmoor.

Swamp Thing could also do it, with a soul suck.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jack Hawksmoor.
Will that work?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Will that work?

Don't see why not.

Also: Magik with her Soulsword.

Bloodwraith with the Ebony Blade

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Morg
Terrax & Surfer
Ultron
MS Zemo & Graviton.
facepalm

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Morg
Terrax & Surfer
Ultron
MS Zemo & Graviton.

You.....you think a robot is going to beat one of the most powerful manipulators of technology around on a planet that's entirely of technology....?

If the Matrix or other aspect of the All-Spark is on Cybertron for this, there might not be a combo that could beat him under OP stips. Conceivably, he'd have Galactus-busting power at that point (or rather, Unicron-busting).

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Jack Hawksmoor.

Oh, hilarious. Awesome pick.

Jack was the "god of cities," and was often portrayed as such in a conceptual sense, and I have no doubt he could control Cybertron. The issue is whether he could override Cyborg Superman's control. That's anyone's guess.

Heh, coming from you, high praise indeed.

Who else would you pick? The most I could see with Hawksmoor is that he would only be equal to him. He could take control of the planet, but I don't think he could deny Hank from drawing raw materials from the surroundings to amp himself.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Heh, coming from you, high praise indeed.

Who else would you pick? The most I could see with Hawksmoor is that he would only be equal to him. He could take control of the planet, but I don't think he could deny Hank from drawing raw materials from the surroundings to amp himself.

Gun to my head, I'd pick Jack to wrest control of the planet itself from him. There's no way to know for sure though. But yeah, he wouldn't just, say, delete Cyborg Supes. It would still be a fight. But Jack would have the planet on his side, imo. So I do think Jack would win due to that matchup issue, even though more powerful heralds would fail in this particular scenario.

Originally posted by Digi
Gun to my head, I'd pick Jack to wrest control of the planet itself from him. There's no way to know for sure though. But yeah, he wouldn't just, say, delete Cyborg Supes. It would still be a fight. But Jack would have the planet on his side, imo. So I do think Jack would win due to that matchup issue, even though more powerful heralds would fail in this particular scenario.

Considering how The Carrier treats Jack, I'd think the entire planet would work like a giant city for him. Is it the larger the city, the stronger he gets? If not, I would think Cy's strength and durability advantage would be too much against Jack even if he can take control of Cybertron from Cy. Unless Jack is significantly stronger than I thought.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Considering how The Carrier treats Jack, I'd think the entire planet would work like a giant city for him. Is it the larger the city, the stronger he gets? If not, I would think Cy's strength and durability advantage would be too much against Jack even if he can take control of Cybertron from Cy. Unless Jack is significantly stronger than I thought.

Yah, to the point that he woulde deliberately use doors to get to places like Mexico City, just so he could become stronger.

He was able to take control of Tokyo, turn it into a mecha suit, wore it, and fought off a sentient Kansas City from the future.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/87571-155098-jack-hawksmoor.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, to the point that he woulde deliberately use doors to get to places like Mexico City, just so he could become stronger.

He was able to take control of Tokyo, turn it into a mecha suit, wore it, and fought off a sentient Kansas City from the future.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/87571-155098-jack-hawksmoor.jpg

I remember the Mexico City thing against that "renegade Doctor," but don't remember it making him PHYSICALLY stronger. Maybe it was he didn't actually do anything to show that. I heard about the using Tokyo that way, but never saw it.

True, it gave him more power...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/308/2053700-hiroshima_durability4.jpg

Jack is one of the coolest characters ever. One of the most unique powersets ever.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True, it gave him more power...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/308/2053700-hiroshima_durability4.jpg

I just don't recall him being shown to be physically more powerful. Like I said, if it doesn't effect his strength/durability, Cy still has a huge advantage there even if Jack can take over Cybertron from him. And that's not taking the occasional speed-blitz into account.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
KMC, pick a herald that could defeat Cyborg Superman on Cybertron.

1) 1 herald
2) 2 heralds
3) 1 Trans
4) 1 herald, 1 trans

NO BFR!
Black Bolt with a cough.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was able to take control of Tokyo, turn it into a mecha suit, wore it, and fought off a sentient Kansas City from the future.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/87571-155098-jack-hawksmoor.jpg if this post doesn't make you giggle, nothing will...

Originally posted by Galan007
it'd have to be a herald that has no qualms with atomizing the planet immediately after the onset of the battle--as that is the only way to beat THE god of technopathy on a planet comprised entirely of tech/machinery.

imo.

Considering Hank actually got kicked out by an Alpha Lantern because of her sentience, it's up in the air whether he could successfully possess a Cybertronian..

Cybertron itself is something else, but it depends on whether we're talking Primus in planet form or not..

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, to the point that he woulde deliberately use doors to get to places like Mexico City, just so he could become stronger.

He was able to take control of Tokyo, turn it into a mecha suit, wore it, and fought off a sentient Kansas City from the future.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/308/87571-155098-jack-hawksmoor.jpg
How did millions of people not die?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
How did millions of people not die?

'Cuz

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Alternates/Comics.jpg

Jack has worn a city-suit twice, btw. It's not a one-off feat.

Originally posted by Galan007
if this post doesn't make you giggle, nothing will...

Even knowing exactly what he was referring to, it was an amazingly awesome description of it. I chuckled.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
How did millions of people not die?

Might have been one of the times Wildstorm Earth was vacated. I can't remember the exact circumstances though. The "Because Comics" defense may actually be correct.

Originally posted by Magog
Black Bolt with a cough.

You really don't know much about Cyborg Superman or Cybertron, do ya?

Originally posted by Magog
Black Bolt with a cough.

NO

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