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who wins who dies?

Hmmmm. Vos is a mid tier duelist and is probably close to Dural imo, tue odds are against Dural but if he could take out Tholme he might win (emphasis on might)

Gnost

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gnost

Gnost is good, but he's not taking out both of these two at once.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Gnost dies

Gnost could kick the asses of 3 duelists at a time. And his is by far a better swordsman than both Quinlan and Tholme

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Gnost could kick the asses of 3 duelists at a time. And his is by far a better swordsman than both Quinlan and Tholme

Would love to see you back that up with feats of the people he's beaten. I'm not expecting you to do that though.

Dark Councilor who was trained by Darth Malgus and her two apprentices at the same time. as far as feats go, they don't have much exposure, although while connected to her ship Karrid was practically an unstoppable force

So they're featless then. Ok Bantha.

I would hardly call Karrid featless, she had the power alone to pilot the ascendant spear without any assistance which is hard as hell. And it doesn't matter that they are featless, He isn't featless. He is a master of all 7 forms with great speed and force feats.

Being skilled in multiple (and presumably all) forms isn't nearly the same as being a *master* of them all, stop fangasming all over the place, it's going to ruin the carpet.

His speed feats are hardly great, they're good, but they're not outside the range of what you'd expect from any of the elites.

His Force Feats consist of a series of pushes and shoves, even if they are notably strong. I'd be inclined to compare him to Sora Bulq more than anyone else, actually. Unless you consider pain tolerance a Force feat.

Gnost Dural is an elite Jedi Master amongst the Council, and has impressive skills of infiltration and espionage, but you're not helping him by attempting to blow what he's achieved out of proportion.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Being skilled in multiple (and presumably all) forms isn't nearly the same as being a *master* of them all, stop fangasming all over the place, it's going to ruin the carpet.

His speed feats are hardly great, they're good, but they're not outside the range of what you'd expect from any of the elites.

His Force Feats consist of a series of pushes and shoves, even if they are notably strong. I'd be inclined to compare him to Sora Bulq more than anyone else, actually. Unless you consider pain tolerance a Force feat.

Gnost Dural is an elite Jedi Master amongst the Council, and has impressive skills of infiltration and espionage, but you're not helping him by attempting to blow what he's achieved out of proportion.

The descriptions of him using Juyo, Djemn so, and Soresu are spot on for the description of mastery, and the effectiveness of which he used them sagest mastery as well.

When he used Djemn so he immediately put his opponents on there asses, When he used Juyo he cut his opponent down within seconds, when he was forced into soresu three people using different forms, two of which having impressive skill couldn't penetrate his defenses. And he was described as having a nearly impenetrable wall of defense.

I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I am simply not underrating

-As said every person who's ever blown things out of proportion ever lol.

Nothing you described indicates that he had achieved mastery of all forms, just that he is an expert duelist who is well versed in several of them. There is a difference.

Wielding a form down to the T of what mastery of that form is described as doesn't equals mastery....LOGIC

Except all that's mentioned is him switching to the Form, and then describing it's most basic elements in effect against primarily fodder foes constitutes skill, but not mastery.

Gnost Dural is no Kas'im.

Including yourself putting Kolar on Dooku/Revan level.

Lol @ Revan being at Dooku's level.

Everyone on this forum does besides you.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Being skilled in multiple (and presumably all) forms isn't nearly the same as being a *master* of them all, stop fangasming all over the place, it's going to ruin the carpet.


So says the one who thinks Agen or Fisto might have a chance against Either Kun or Malgus....

How about I link you my good friend Bantha's Respect thread hmm? http://thesithoutcasts.forumotion.com/t189-gnost-dural-respect-thread

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-As said every person who's ever blown things out of proportion ever lol.


Don't you blow Kolar feats out of proportion to the point were you think he was on Revan/Dooku Level.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
-just that he is an expert duelist who is well versed in several of them. There is a difference.

The difference being that he's a more versatile duelist than Quinlan and Tholme? he's an expert not a novice like Anoon Bondara and Cin Drallig's who's so called mastery got them killed. I agree that we shouldn't blow a character's feats of proportion but don't try to downplay them either Sas.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Wielding a form down to the T of what mastery of that form is described as doesn't equals mastery....LOGIC

as always Bantha I agree with you to the fullest, Gnost would win this, he's shown us that he is quite skilled at taking on multiple opponents at once(and on a nexus) he's shown us great skill with TK and Speed which may not surpass tholme or Vos but it is still impressive as this shows that he is very versatile in terms of combat even if people like Sas don't think he's a 'master' he is an expert and a powerful duelist and force user.

The Jedi Master met and repelled each and every attack, holding his ground behind A NEAR IMPENETRABLE WALL OF DEFENSE. even with the apprentice joining the fray, he didn't waver-the Soresu form, WHEN PERFORMED PERFECTLY, could keep numerous attackers with a variety of styles at bay INDEFINATLY... Page 317


He doesn't use just the basics, from the quote alone he is a master of the soresu form

You don't understand, Bantha. Does Gnost have a quote saying he's one of the best? NO. Therefore he's shitty and completely below the PT era Council.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy

How about I link you my good friend Bantha's Respect thread hmm? http://thesithoutcasts.forumotion.com/t189-gnost-dural-respect-thread


I have a better one,

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/wildbantha88/blog/gnost-dural-respect-thread/98488/

Originally posted by Nephthys
You don't understand, Bantha. Does Gnost have a quote saying he's one of the best? NO. Therefore he's shitty and completely below the PT era Council.

please tell me you are not saying that with a serious face...I would still like to respect you

Are you doubting the impeachable reputation of the PT era? They are the best duelists ever, no question.

ur obviously joking

Originally posted by Nephthys


Are you doubting the impeachable reputation of the PT era? They are the best duelists ever, no question.

http://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/6708846088.jpg

Originally posted by WildBantha88
ur obviously joking
You mean you didn't understand that before? Christ lmao.