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I'm a little worried about a friend of mine. He's 30 and didn't go to college, and he still lives at home. I suggested that he go to a vocational school, but he still says no. I want him to be a success in life. How do I convince him?

Maybe he doesn't want to be a success in life. Maybe he just wants to chill.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
I'm a little worried about a friend of mine. He's 30 and didn't go to college, and he still lives at home. I suggested that he go to a vocational school, but he still says no. I want him to be a success in life. How do I convince him?

Sounds like you're telling him what he already knows.

If he doesn't want to go to school (vocational or otherwise), he won't go to school. There's nothing you can do about it. Actually, pushing him to go to school may actually push him further away from the idea.

You can tell him positive things such as, "You're really good with new software. Did you ever consider going into Tech Support? You can make $40k-$90k a year in low-level tech support if you have the credentials."

Originally posted by VG_Addict
I'm a little worried about a friend of mine. He's 30 and didn't go to college, and he still lives at home. I suggested that he go to a vocational school, but he still says no. I want him to be a success in life. How do I convince him?

Is this friend really you?

I've never gone to college, so?

Originally posted by Clovie
I've never gone to college, so?

He means any higher education, including university. Basically he is saying his friend only has up to high school level (secondary education).

At any rate, you don't give enough information, VG_Addict. Does your friend work? What does he want to do? Has he plans for the future?

Originally posted by VG_Addict
I'm a little worried about a friend of mine. He's 30 and didn't go to college, and he still lives at home. I suggested that he go to a vocational school, but he still says no. I want him to be a success in life. How do I convince him?
Nobody listens to short people, so if you grew a feet or two he'd probably be easier to persuade.

Originally posted by Bardock42
He means any higher education, including university. Basically he is saying his friend only has up to high school level (secondary education).

At any rate, you don't give enough information, VG_Addict. Does your friend work? What does he want to do? Has he plans for the future?

He's 31. He tells me he's looking for a job. He said he wants to be a janitor at his local movie theater.

Then let him be that?

Originally posted by VG_Addict
He's 31. He tells me he's looking for a job. He said he wants to be a janitor at his local movie theater.

And what would you like him to be? Perhaps he would be happy in that position, isn't his happiness important?

May I ask what you do currently and what you have planned for yourself in the future?

Originally posted by VG_Addict
He's 31. He tells me he's looking for a job. He said he wants to be a janitor at his local movie theater.

Just curious....is this person a friend or a friend? I only ask because ultimately, it should be his happiness that matters and if sweeping popcorn and walking on sticky floors is what will make him happy, then so be it.

I don't think he's taking the right path in life.

I want him to be a success.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
I don't think he's taking the right path in life.

I want him to be a success.

................why is it so important your friend is a success?

I don't know. I just worry about him.

Originally posted by Clovie
I've never gone to college, so?

You told me you were a doctor!

Originally posted by Robtard
You told me you were a doctor! Medical university IS NOT a college


Originally posted by VG_Addict
I don't think he's taking the right path in life.

I want him to be a success. Are you "a success" ? If he wants to be a janitor, it's his life.

See, like, I explained the misunderstanding in my post, you two could just have read that. And perhaps next time realize that neither the US American nor the Polish experience is universal.

Originally posted by Bardock42
See, like, I explained the misunderstanding in my post, you two could just have read that. And perhaps next time realize that neither the US American nor the Polish experience is universal. I've read your post, but since he still was asking..
And IMHO in america they they colleges and universities as well. and there is a difference, isn't there?

Originally posted by Clovie
I've read your post, but since he still was asking..
And IMHO in america they they colleges and universities as well. and there is a difference, isn't there?

Not generally, they are mostly used interchangeably.

well.. I see.
Either way, finishing this or that school doesn't make you successful.
And here person operating digging machine earns more than me :/

Originally posted by Clovie
Medical university IS NOT a college


In the US the terms can be exchangeable. I was just being an ass.

Originally posted by Clovie
well.. I see.
Either way, finishing this or that school doesn't make you successful.
And here person operating digging machine earns more than me :/

I totally agree with you on that. You probably will make more in the long term though, right?

Originally posted by Robtard
In the US the terms can be exchangeable. I was just being an ass. okkey...


Originally posted by Bardock42
I totally agree with you on that. You probably will make more in the long term though, right? Depends on how many jobs i wanna have pararelly. It's like you have one, regular job in hospital and a lot of extra jobs to earn money
But I would love to have just one.. and free evenings and weekends.. at least most of them.

What "extra" jobs do you do?

Nothing yet, just PhD studies.
but after specialisation exam I would be able to get some.. let's say some kind of private pratice.. or extra hours in different hospitals.

Originally posted by Clovie
I've read your post, but since he still was asking..
And IMHO in america they they colleges and universities as well. and there is a difference, isn't there?

An institute of higher learning is considered a "university" if it is also research institute of sorts.

"Colleges" generally aren't research based.

Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
An institute of higher learning is considered a "university" if it is also research institute of sorts.

"Colleges" generally aren't research based. THANK YOU!

Originally posted by AbnormalButSane
An institute of higher learning is considered a "university" if it is also research institute of sorts.

"Colleges" generally aren't research based.

Yeah, but you explain that to general usage by people...

University is theoretical here, college is practical srug

Okay, but can we all, in essence, agree that the thread starter dude, when he said his friend didn't go to college, didn't mean that he had a PhD from a renowned university though, but that he had no higher level education?

What do I do?

He's 31. I would think it's too late.

Originally posted by Clovie
well.. I see.
Either way, finishing this or that school doesn't make you successful.
And here person operating digging machine earns more than me :/ Yeah you really ned to move to England like the rest of the Polish.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
He's 31. I would think it's too late.
As far as I know, in North America it's not.

Tell him there will be bitches. So when he blows off the bullshit exploitative curriculum at least he has plenty of pussy to choose from after he leaves.

Originally posted by silver_tears
University is theoretical here, college is practical srug Still probably has a better education system.

****in' Baghdad had a better education system than America.

It's a ****in ponzy scheme for whoever is rich enough to rock the vote here.

There may be a reason why stee doesn't ever live in or have plans to visit America (as far as I can tell it's everywhere but America).

She may have been from this godforsaken shit-hole.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
What do I do?

He's 31. I would think it's too late.

It's never too late to change something, if he so desires. However from all you said, he does not.

Perhaps you could try to look into distance learning for him, perhaps he would be more willing to do something like that?

Originally posted by VG_Addict
I don't think he's taking the right path in life.

I want him to be a success.

You mean a financial success? What do you mean when you say "success?" Successful education can be pursued without going to college. This is the same with a successful income.

When it comes to him, your concern should be what he wants and not what you want for him. Unless he's actively harming himself, I see your concern as more intrusive than helpful.




Originally posted by Bardock42
Not generally, they are mostly used interchangeably.

^ This.

At this point, the issue should be dropped. OP was using the term "college" as it's generally used in the States.

We need janitors. But no one is proud of them.

That is the real underlying message of this thread.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
What do I do?

He's 31. I would think it's too late.
Again, it's not too late for anything if he wants to do it. But your wishes for him aren't as important as his wants for his life.

My ex's dad is doing a degree and he's 50!

Dadudemons idea sounds about right, positive suggestion always helps influence. He sounds like he doesnt know what he wants, some times people take longer to figure it out because we all go through different stages of development. The best advice i can suggest to u is to stop giving him advice and accept him as he is or move on. It is not up to u to help him, he can only do that for himself. I personally would surround myself with people who are a positive influence, ie workout, have goals, maintatain a healthy life style. Its time to let go and became an adult not a boy.

Ahh went twice..

Everyone to each their own, learn that! Many years ago when i was working at city hall i helped out my friend and connected him with a film maker, he got a job as a result of this and was very greatful to me. When i was unemployed years later and looking for a job he promised to help me, not only did he not keep his word but he lied to me and i found out. It is good to be kind, it is also good to help people but one lesson u should learn is to never go out of ur way for anyone unless their family. It sounds mean rude and unkind but u will realise we all have to learn on are own. Nothing in life is free. If u want to be somebody, if u want to go somewhere u got to wake up and pay attention. Woopie