Darth Jadus vs. Count Dooku

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XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Count of Serenno vs. The Nihilus rehash. Who wins?

Takes place on neutral, flat terrain.

NewGuy01
The Count, infinitely superior dueling feats.

carthage
Dooku easily

Nephthys
Jadus

Sinious
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jadus

Lord Stark
The Count takes sabers, Jadus takes Force and all out.

carthage
Feats for Jadus?

Nephthys
He shielded a capital ship from destruction. Also he's likely the most powerful Sith in TOR other than Vitiate.

Lord Stark
Rivaled only by perhaps Marr and Malgus imo.

NewGuy01
I'd have personally counted Emperor Malgus above him.

Lord Stark
Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'd have personally counted Emperor Malgus above him.

1. Vitiate
2. Jadus/ Malgus
3. Marr


That's my ranking.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Lord Stark
1. Vitiate
2. Jadus/ Malgus
3. Marr


That's my ranking.
As far as SWTOR Sith go, I agree with that 100%

S_W_LeGenD
Jadus

nfactor1995
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
The Count of Serenno vs. The Nihilus rehash. Who wins?

Takes place on neutral, flat terrain.

Jadus is a Nihilus rehash? huh

UCanShootMyNova
Dooku.

MythLord
Originally posted by nfactor1995
Jadus is a Nihilus rehash? huh

Why did you bump this? Dooku stomps, anyways.

NewGuy01
why

YousufKhan1212
I can still bump threads, you know.

UCanShootMyNova
We can all do things. Whether we should or not is what she should ask ourselves before doing them.

nfactor1995
Originally posted by MythLord
Why did you bump this? Dooku stomps, anyways.

'Cause it's a good fight smile

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by nfactor1995
'Cause it's a good fight smile
Still longing for the good old days when tor wasn't shite?
Shame sad

nfactor1995
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Still longing for the good old days when tor wasn't shite?
Shame sad

I wasn't aware that the "good old days" had ever ended...unless of course you believe that the opinions of yourself and Az constitute the ending of said days...

thesithmaster
Dooku.

Azronger
Dooku stomps

MythLord
Originally posted by nfactor1995
'Cause it's a good fight smile

Not really. You can argue Jadus is on the same level or comparable in terms of raw power, but as an actual combatant he's pathetic compared to Tyranus.

thesithmaster
Dooku does not stomp because of Jadus' Force power in an all-out battle.
In a sabers match, yeah, he does stomp.

Ursumeles
Dooku, obviously.
Force only would be close.

MythLord
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Dooku does not stomp because of Jadus' Force power in an all-out battle.

How come? Jadus' power -- I'd hesitate to put over Obi-Wan or Asajj, by any significant margin.

thesithmaster
Originally posted by MythLord
How come? Jadus' power -- I'd hesitate to put over Obi-Wan or Asajj, by any significant margin.

He held a 600 m ship together and caused another ship like that to shake by his mere rage. Those are impressive power feats that allow him to give Dooku good trouble in an all-out battle if he is smart enough to abuse the Force, which I think he will be.

MythLord
Given he ineffectively used it against Cipher Nine... doubting it.

Him "shaking it" is an ambiguous feat and one even ESB Luke can match in a fit of rage. As for holding it together: That's pretty impressive, though he only held together the remenant of it and he admits part of it was destroyed.

And he notes his power held together the remains, meaning it no longer does so clearly somebody had to have fixed/improved it during the length of time he held it together, which is also ambiguous.

ares834
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Still longing for the good old days when tor wasn't shite?
Shame sad

Those "good old days" are a myth. They never existed. TOR was shite from the inception.

Rockydonovang
Originally posted by thesithmaster
He held a 600 m ship together and caused another ship like that to shake by his mere rage. Those are impressive power feats that allow him to give Dooku good trouble in an all-out battle if he is smart enough to abuse the Force, which I think he will be.
*He held part of a 600 m ship

thesithmaster
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
*He held part of a 600 m ship

Just reread his RT, and you're right. Yeah, Dooku is more powerful. Jadus can still give him some grief though. He has very nice accolades.

S_W_LeGenD
Based on hype factor and demonstrated powers, Darth Jadus seems to be superior.

How Cipher Nine defeated him is a mystery but shit happens and former was an espionage specialist. I wouldn't rule out Darth Jadus's competence due to this development exclusively because Cipher Nine is/was an unconventional opponent.

In a clash of raw power and lightsabers, I expect Darth Jadus to perform admirably. His reputation speaks for itself.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Based on hype factor and demonstrated powers, Darth Jadus seems to be superior.

How Cipher Nine defeated him is a mystery but shit happens.

Pretty much every fight in TOR is a mystery.

Ursumeles
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Based on hype factor and demonstrated powers, Darth Jadus seems to be superior.
Hype-wise, Dooku was, after Yoda himself, the second most powerful and skilled Jedi of all time, until Mace joined, only to grow far more powerful as a Sith Lord.

Force-wise, I'd say Dooku ragdolling Obi-Wan, destroying Ventress (who can revive the Death, which even Sorzus Syn found difficult) and hurling cruisers at least close to Jadus showings.

That being said, Lightsaber wise, Dooku shits on Jadus. Easily besting Ventress, GG and TCW Kenobi, destroying Bulq, and holding his own against Obi-Wan/Anakin & AotC Yoda >>> Jadus.

MythLord
Being considerably more powerful/advanced as a Force user than Sorzus Syn is > Jadus, definitely.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by Ursumeles
destroying Ventress (who can revive the Death, which even Sorzus Syn found difficult)
Originally posted by MythLord
Being considerably more powerful/advanced as a Force user than Sorzus Syn is > Jadus, definitely.
This comparison between Ventress and Sorzus Syn is completely and utterly unwarranted.

First of all, Sorzus Syn describing the ability as "complex" doesn't indicate anything about its difficulty relative to her own level of ability, merely her writing for a reader she doesn't know any personal details about as far as their level of ability goes, so to use that as a judgement of her abilities would be some serious reaching.

Secondly, the connection you are trying to draw between the ability Ventress used to the ability Sorzus described is unwarranted. Considering that other force abilities have been displayed to resurrect the dead, such as that of the nightsisters, and that of that one energy vampire Windu fought, I'm not convinced there's enough evidence to consider them the same ability. The Book of Sith describes the spell as animating "both the freshly dead and skeletons of the carrion fields, transforming them into an unstoppable legion impervious to pain and able to transmit a necromancy infection by biting." Ventress's never displayed the ability to reanimate anything as degenerated as skeletons or anything more than the freshly dead, her undead never displayed the ability to transmit necromancy, and she only reanimated around four dead gungans as opposed to the "legion" described in the Book of Sith, so Ventress's display of reanimating the dead does not lay claim to anything remotely as impressive as what was described in the Book of Sith.

If you want to argue Dooku beats Jadus, go for it, I have no problem with that stance and think there are quite a few valid arguments that can be made. Trying to scale Dooku off of Sorzus Syn however is completely unsubstantiated, and little more than reaching.

Ursumeles
I already conceded in gh, u little mean bane wanker sadsadsad

Emperordmb
I know, I was mainly countering Wollf, but it was your statement that provided the context so I quoted that too.

You're smart enough to not stay on a sinking ship.

MythLord
Yeh, don't have the time to argue this sh!t and it'd mostly be semantics related but... fair enough, cuck. thumb up

Deronn_solo
DMB has been saying in these threads.

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