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Yep, I'm goin there....

Sabers, force, all out

Maul.

Surik

Originally posted by carthage
Maul.



Good fight, though.

I'd like for Meetra to win, but feats why she's been screwed up.

If we were to just take the jedi exile into account, she wins.

Good fight, but Maul wins.

Maul wins, like Nyriss did.

Originally posted by The_Tempest


Good fight, though.

The Exile wins.

Exile>TPM Maul>Meetra

Stop trying, my friend. You can't redeem Surik from her shame against Nryiss. The outcome is inevitable. Your striving is insignificant. Let your deathconcession be the same.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stop trying, my friend. You can't redeem Surik from her shame against Nryiss. The outcome is inevitable.

I've just started playing KOTOR 2 again. I can't let go that easily. Plus Darth Nyriss is bad ass.



That's my joke.

Nyriss was going to disintegrate Scourge as well on a Dark Side nexus and even managed to do it to herself. Let's not pretend that the Exile, a Light Sider on a Dark Side nexus, is showing weakness by not being able to block it with a shield.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nyriss was going to disintegrate Scourge as well on a Dark Side nexus and even managed to do it to herself. Let's not pretend that the Exile, a Light Sider on a Dark Side nexus, is showing weakness by not being able to block it with a shield.
Dromund Kaas is not a nexus in its entirety.

However, you have a point.

Meetra Surik was able to call upon the light side of the Force and use her powers in Dromund Kaas. This is impressive keeping in mind that she pulled this off in a planet strong in the dark side on the whole.

It doesn't have to be a nexus in it's entirety for that point. She lived in Kaas City.

Only the Dark Temple is specifically a darkside nexus.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Only the Dark Temple is specifically a darkside nexus.

While areas near the Dark Temple were definitely more concentrated then others, the entire planet was still strong in Dark Side energy from the Sith that lived there.

I still doubt that. Darkside nexus' like the Dark Temple as known to cause extreme adverse affects like, you know, insanity and shit from being on them. An Imperial civilisation living there for a millennia without any notable problems suggests either it's not actually a full nexus or that it's so weak as to be insignificant. If it doesn't affect normal humans, why would it affect Sith?

I don't believe any of those problems with the Dark Temple started until Kallig passed the trials on Korriban. At that point, Aloysius awoke and started causing problems that lead to more Sith spectres awaking, and so on. At least that is how the other Sith seem to imply it began.

Naw, a thousand slaves went insane from building tunnels too close to it.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't believe any of those problems with the Dark Temple started until Kallig passed the trials on Korriban. At that point, Aloysius awoke and started causing problems that lead to more Sith spectres awaking, and so on. At least that is how the other Sith seem to imply it began.
No, events surrounding the Dark Temple is a product of EVIL of Emperor Vitiate. Many visitors went insane and died in that region.

Ah, I see, still, I think most of the planet is considered nexus, or at least the areas around the Temple and Kaas City, despite people living there and remaining sane, though the Dark Temple clearly a much stronger one then. From the Holonet:

" Power hungry, the Emperor spent great energy discovering and perfecting esoteric rites of darkness – rituals that wrecked the atmosphere of Dromund Kaas, transforming the ionosphere into a swirling electric storm......However, Dromund Kaas remains home to both the Emperor and his Dark Council. Even though the planet is bristling with the energy of the dark side, it is the Imperial military that has the largest visible presence on Dromund Kaas. "

Nexus represents a strong concentration of energy, so strong that it can influence surroundings.

In the Kaas City, normal people also live and do just fine. Now send these people to Dark Temple and see what happens.

Your definition of a nexus is very strict. I don't think it needs to drive you insane to be a nexus. Dromund Kaas' entire atmosphere is gone and the fauna changed. Seems enough for me.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stop trying, my friend. You can't redeem Surik from her shame against Nryiss. The outcome is inevitable. Your striving is insignificant. Let your deathconcession be the same.

There's a lot of evidence that suggest she was a lot weaker by the revan novel, why cant you not see that? but your opinion is yours I suppose

Because there isn't good evidence. It's the fans desperately trying to make up for Drew's bad writing in any way they can.

Meetra as she appears in "Revan" is the canonical Exile, even if she sucks balls.

That's not really how canon works. Both are just as valid as the either, and while the most recent is where they rank powerwise, here performance in KotOR II didn't become invalid because of it.

It's not invalid, but there is no canon evidence to support that she became weaker, nor does common sense back it.

Frankly, before the Malachor arc, Meetra's strength wasn't all that inconsistent with "Revan".

In that case the only explanation is that Nyriss is just that good, to casually defeat a Jedi that ran through a Sith academy on a nexus, godstomped Sion and beat Traya twice in a row. I'd say.... Caedus level easy.

And before the Star Forge arc Revan was no better.

You're right, Revan really wasn't impressive before the Star Forge.

Also, Traya is canonically more powerful than the Exile anyway. Sion's combat capabilities are in question, and he was only truly defeated because of his feelings for Surik.

Though it's possible Meetra had some sorta wizard connection to Malachor as well

Solo'ing two Terentatek's is impressive.

The Exile defeating a more powerful opponent is only indicative of her sheer combat skill. "Truly defeated" as in she curbstomped him 6 times in a row, before he decided to give up.

I agree. I'm sure looking at the Star Forge and walking through it helped him remember a lot of experiences as a Darth.

Not impressive.



Impressive, but hardly exceptional.



True.

Levitating is a display of great control and mastery over telekinesis.

In comparison to who?
Calo Nord is hyped to have an immense kill record.
Darth Bandon is highly skilled in combat and killed 20+ Jedi.

http://r26.imgfast.net/users/2613/36/14/96/smiles/3177439056.gif

Also, how about the other bullets?

Obvious and not worth mentioning, or over debated crap that I'd rather not get into in a non-Revan thread.

Every thread is a Revan thread bro.