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I'm down for an Objectify Women thread. pls provide better pics though.

that's just too much boobage for my taste.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ignore_jpg_scale_super/11111/111114407/3921114-1250829263-hotgi.gif

hmm, her bra's too small for her

http://i.imgur.com/MrdvHyg.jpg

Doing better, but there's still room for improvement.

4 votes
All the votes add up to 7
Huh?

This thread is like a wrecking ball.

Threads like these exist alllll over the internet.

I'm okay with it.



Also, to assess whether or not something is sexist, reverse the genders. Generally, it is not viewed as sexist to view "hot men." But when men objectify women, it's "sexist." Wrong. It's sexist to say it is sexist for only men to find women attractive. This is obvious. But this is not my experience with real women (just had an argument with a lady about it...who thought it was fine to look at and like pictures of me with my shirt off but not okay for our mutual niece, who is 18 and smoking hot, to post pictures of herself on Facebook from a lingerie shoot...let me be more clear that she was more dressed than I).

It is not sexist for either sex to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex and then to revel in that attraction. It is sexist, however, to single out one sex's attraction to the other sex as being "bad." No. Just stop that shit.

But this objectification stuff becomes sexist when a line is crossed. When men (or women) view the opposite sex as lesser beings than themselves, that's when it becomes sexist. IMO, most men are not thinking, "She's inferior to me and I am better than she is" when viewing an attractive female. He's thinking, "Sex. Sex. Sex."

This thread is clearly about body parts of women, not women, that is objectifying.

Originally posted by Bardock42
This thread is clearly about body parts of women, not women, that is objectifying. But is it sexist?

Yes

Originally posted by silver_tears
hmm, her bra's too small for her

Her boons disagree with your assessment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes Explain.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes

No.

Simply objectifying women is not enough to be "sexist." That's bullshit that feminists have invented.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But this objectification stuff becomes sexist when a line is crossed. When men (or women) view the opposite sex as lesser beings than themselves, that's when it becomes sexist. IMO, most men are not thinking, "She's inferior to me and I am better than she is" when viewing an attractive female. He's thinking, "Sex. Sex. Sex."




Also, admiring the female form, as a male, could sometimes be the exact opposite of sexism (reverse-sexism). This is due to some men thinking, "Wow...women are so amazing. They are definitely the superior sex." I've heard that stated many many times by men. That's sexism...but the wrong kind you're thinking of.

This reduces women to their body parts. which are then stylised for male pleasure. It adds to the general demeaning and discrimination of women. Hence sexism.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No.

Simply objectifying women is not enough to be "sexist." That's bullshit that feminists have invented.






Also, admiring the female form, as a male, could sometimes be the exact opposite of sexism (reverse-sexism). This is due to some men thinking, "Wow...women are so amazing. They are definitely the superior sex." I've heard that stated many many times by men. That's sexism...but the wrong kind you're thinking of.

Your general lack of understanding of the dynamics of oppression is frustrating. However I do not feel up to the task to educate you, and honestly think you would probably not be open to input currently anyways.

Also, I would like to add that at the heart of fighting sexism is the notion that one sex does not consider the feelings of the other.

When a women gets dressed (or undressed) to look super sexy and posses for a camera, her explicit feelings is for others to view her as sexy. By refusing to indulge her feelings with a false sense of "self-righteousness", you fail to take her feelings into consideration and in fact, become sexist. I am not even kidding. This seems like "crazy talk" because we have been bombarded but idiotic feminist ideals for decades so we are conditioned to not think objectively (hah, almost pun) about these subjects. But let me explain this a different way...*

This same logic applies, equally, to a woman who is photographed, for sexual reasons, WITHOUT her consent. Viewing that content is sexist to the max. You did not consider her feelings when viewing the content: she probably doesn't want you to view them.


*This does not mean you have to view every last picture, ever, of any person who posses sexy for a camera. This just means not to balk and scorn at women who choose to do these things. This also means not to balk and scorn at other people who view these things for pleasure or admiration.

Edit - Holy shit. I sound like a feminist. An actual feminist. How dare I actually take into account a person's feelings and demand equality for both sexes. Who the hell am I?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Your general lack of understanding of the dynamics of oppression is frustrating. However I do not feel up to the task to educate you, and honestly think you would probably not be open to input currently anyways.

You are correct that it would be a waste of your time as I view your position as the ignorant and an indoctrinated one, not mine.

I used to think the same way you do. But I have been able to shed the shackles of ignorance and propaganda from the shitty feminist machine. I have been able to supplant those former ideals with objective and logical ideals regarding the sexes to obtain a superior and more true perspective of egalitarianism (you know...actual feminism...not this bullshit sexist "feminism" disguised as egalitarianism).

I view some your positions on sexuality and the sexes as archaic and unwarranted self-righteousness. Some of your positions are part of the problem and why we continue to deal with sexism, today.

I should also note that some of your positions on sexism are modern, logical, and applaud-able. Not every position you hold falls under the umbrella of negative remarks I have made.

Originally posted by Bardock42
This reduces women to their body parts. which are then stylised for male pleasure. It adds to the general demeaning and discrimination of women. Hence sexism. There are bisexual and lesbian females that appreciate the female form, particularly their body parts.

For argument's sake, does stylising the male sex organ or body form count as sexism too?

Because for centuries the male form has been stylised and appreciated as far back as the ancient greeks!

Originally posted by It's xyz!
There are bisexual and lesbian females that appreciate the female form, particularly their body parts.

For argument's sake, does stylising the male sex organ or body form count as sexism too?

Because for centuries the male form has been stylised and appreciated as far back as the ancient greeks!
I'm a bisexual female and while I do appreciate the female form, I do not reduce women to just "titties and asses".
Hence my dislike of the thread.

Originally posted by Kharhmah
I'm a bisexual female and while I do appreciate the female form, I do not reduce women to just "titties and asses".
Hence my dislike of the thread. Hmm, I remember a lesbian friend of mine that would drool over a woman with big curves and even chase them.

But ofcourse, I don't think she would reduce females to their body parts alone.

http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/morgan-webb-pics-006.jpg

Originally posted by Kharhmah
I'm a bisexual female

Pics or it didn't happen

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/morgan-webb-pics-006.jpg
Thanks for getting the thread back in track

Bardock make your own thread

Originally posted by Robtard
Pics or it didn't happen
Somehow I dont think a picture can prove my bisexuality. Unless of course I write "bisexual" on my forehead, that is.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Thanks for getting the thread back in track

Bardock make your own thread

I don't feel like I particularly derailed this thread. I still find it gross though, and may choose to air that grievance.

Originally posted by Kharhmah
Somehow I dont think a picture can prove my bisexuality. Unless of course I write "bisexual" on my forehead, that is.

Nah.

If you posted a picture of yourself having sexy times with a woman (and no money, goods, or services were involved), according to the Kinsey Institute, that would generally prove you are bisexual.


That is the evidence Robtard is looking for and I think you knew that already so I'll shutup.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't feel like I particularly derailed this thread. I still find it gross though, and may choose to air that grievance.

No way...being off-topic in the off-topic forum? Well, I never...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah.

If you posted a picture of yourself having sexy times with a woman (and no money, goods, or services were involved), according to the Kinsey Institute, that would generally prove you are bisexual.


That is the evidence Robtard is looking for and I think you knew that already so I'll shutup.

Well, a woman and a man, and knowing of Rob's predisposition, it's mostly the man he's looking for.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, a woman and a man, and knowing of Rob's predisposition, it's mostly the man he's looking for.




She's already posted pictures of her being together with a boyfriend so she's got the man part covered (ha...that sounds perverted).

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah.

If you posted a picture of yourself having sexy times with a woman (and no money, goods, or services were involved), according to the Kinsey Institute, that would generally prove you are bisexual.


That is the evidence Robtard is looking for and I think you knew that already so I'll shutup.
Techhhnically it wouldn't though, just because I may post a picture of myself and another woman doesn't necessarily mean I'm bisexual. js.

Guys, guys, guys, it was humor. In no way do I doubt that Kharhmah likes both 'oysters and snails' as the saying goes.

The better question, is it an equal like/love?

Originally posted by Kharhmah
Techhhnically it wouldn't though, just because I may post a picture of myself and another woman doesn't necessarily mean I'm bisexual. js.

That's not how the Kinsey institute considers it. Sexual experiences with the same sex (when prostitution of any sort, including porn, is not involved) constitutes homosexuality. Both sexes? Bisexuality.


They put sexuality on a sliding scale with pretty much everyone being differing degrees of bisexual.

Originally posted by Robtard
The better question, is it an equal like/love?


She has stated, in the past, that it wasn't 50-50 and that she had a preference for males. But that may have been on another forum/chat.

there were supposed to be lots of pics in this thread

Originally posted by Raisen
there were supposed to be lots of pics in this thread

So contribute.

http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/anYAN0z_460s.jpg

http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/ay5g11V_460s_v1.jpg

My wife says the second picture is the spice girls.

Is that true?

Originally posted by dadudemon
So contribute.

I have pics on my hd or anything. I don't watch porn and don't have any pics like this.

Originally posted by Raisen
I have pics on my hd or anything. I don't watch porn and don't have any pics like this.

Good because you're not allowed to post porn on KMC.


You can just find pictures and post them like we have.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j438/corsair6/PatriciaSpak.png

Those are some...ginormous t*ts. Can't say I object.

Originally posted by Astner
http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j438/corsair6/PatriciaSpak.png

who is this woman

Use reverse image search, Raisen:

http://images.google.com/


When you go there, click the camera. Then paste the link OR upload the image.

Originally posted by Raisen
who is this woman

You can do what DDM said, or you can just right-click the pic, select properties and look at the name in the link. This only works though if the picture is correctly named after the person.

"Patricia Spak" btw

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Thread needs a change of pace:

LVRAmcRJ41g

Originally posted by Galan007
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/sweet-round-jiggly-ass-pics-5.gif

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Came to fap.

Left feeling guilty.

Came back to continue. awermm

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Came to fap.

Left feeling guilty.

Came back to continue. awermm

Noice!



Welcome back.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Came to fap.

Left feeling guilty.

Came back to continue. awermm

UR DOIN IT WRONG DEN.

Originally posted by Galan007
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/hump-day-dopeness-part-two-33.gif

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http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/hump-day-dopeness-part-two-son-33.gif

Some of those boob bounces look uncomfortable.


But, nice.

Originally posted by Galan007
anyway...

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/6hjowbb.gif

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Originally posted by Galan007
http://www.buttwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/iX8XkhJbxYs8e.gif

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http://www.buttwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/cute-butt-ass-gifs-thong.gif



http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Leonardo-Dicaprio-Oh-My-God-Fist-Bite-The-Wolf-of-Wall-Street.gif

Buttfloss...looks super uncomfortable.

Originally posted by Galan007
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Originally posted by marwash22
http://33.media.tumblr.com/c235461f09a8d007534db3383185cd52/tumblr_n7i3us0oYA1qzimpzo2_1280.jpg
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the highest of fives to anyone who can identify this lovely specimen.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
It's Juliana Soares.

http://ppcdn.500px.org/71678137/49e769740029ce88c2e5b4affb55c3ad8595b11f/2048.jpg

http://ppcdn.500px.org/69292075/736f13ce1daed119c4c23614032112dd9f468c28/4.jpg

Originally posted by Kharhmah
I'm a bisexual female and while I do appreciate the female form, I do not reduce women to just "titties and asses".
Hence my dislike of the thread.

Originally posted by dadudemon
My wife says the second picture is the spice girls.

Is that true?
Your wife's okay with you viewing(and contributing to) a thread containing female titty/booty pics?

F*ck me, I want a wife like that now.

Most women who aren't insane probably wouldn't mind, I imagine.

I mean, looking at pictures of chicks online is a long way away from being unfaithful.

How is this sexist? Does appreciating a woman's figure automatically mean you're using them as objects? I don't think so.

Here are some **** for the girls too appreciate:

https://s3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VahXlliLtmZoaK5dnXm6tQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/movietalk/acd6d67d-c5b9-4515-809d-866cd52425cb_thor-shirtless.jpg

^--- Not sexist.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Here are some **** for the girls too appreciate:

https://s3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/VahXlliLtmZoaK5dnXm6tQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/movietalk/acd6d67d-c5b9-4515-809d-866cd52425cb_thor-shirtless.jpg

^--- Not sexist.

I think this is why you're still a virgin. Should talk to NemeBro, he might be able to help you.

Originally posted by Slay
I think this is why you're still a virgin. Should talk to NemeBro, he might be able to help you.

I don't find this sexy! (lie) I was just pointing out how this is completely okay to show without scrutiny whilst some people are judged for liking to look at boobs.

Plus NemeBro hates me.

Surely you can see how the portrayal of Chris Hemsworth up there, is completely different to the objectification in the pictures of women that are mostly posted here (many of which don't even feature the faces of the people, but just their body parts).

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/2011-12-02-sexy.png

Originally posted by Bardock42
Surely you can see how the portrayal of Chris Hemsworth up there, is completely different to the objectification in the pictures of women that are mostly posted here (many of which don't even feature the faces of the people, but just their body parts).

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/2011-12-02-sexy.png

Oh yes I fully agree with that. Just the other day there was a comparison between Spider Man and Spider Woman and OH MY GAWD! Spider Woman's ASS was always exaggerated and her boobs make ME feel uncomfortable.... Her face is shown just so you can see her lips and hair is long and everywhere (which impractical if you wanna climb around the city) to obviously look SEXY. Comics are very distasteful I am whole heartedly in agreement and it reaches out into a lot of movies as well.

That being said. I believe there is a place where Men and Women can display their sexually attractive features in a mutual celebration of our sexual desires for one another. The world needs a TnA thread.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko

That being said. I believe there is a place where Men and Women can display their sexually attractive features in a mutual celebration of our sexual desires for one another. The world needs a TnA thread.

This is not what's happening here.

Originally posted by Bardock42
This is not what's happening here.

Well with that attitude.

I'm just observing. This thread is directly about objectifying women and even more, women's body parts. It's not positive for anyone, really it's sleazy and gross.

Yeah, I agree. Besides, Bardock has the sweetest **** on this forum, so I don't see why you guys aren't posting any pictures of those.

Originally posted by Slay
Bardock has the sweetest **** on this forum

C-can... Can I see? PLease....

Originally posted by Bardock42
it's sleazy and gross.

What did you expect from us mere mortals?

He does like to act aloof.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
What did you expect from us mere mortals?

Better

Originally posted by Epicurus
Your wife's okay with you viewing(and contributing to) a thread containing female titty/booty pics?

F*ck me, I want a wife like that now.

She comes into my office (because we like being in the same room, together) to do her lesson plans (she's an instructor of Cosmetology) in my office.

It's been like this for years (even before I had an office). We are like an old couple, already. We feel happy just being in the same room as each other.

Love n'stuff.


I do not really look at porn: it doesn't really do much for me. She knows this. This is why threads like these do not bother her.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Surely you can see how the portrayal of Chris Hemsworth up there, is completely different to the objectification in the pictures of women that are mostly posted here (many of which don't even feature the faces of the people, but just their body parts).

http://www.shortpacked.com/comics/2011-12-02-sexy.png

Ahh, yes. This is a bullshit comic that tries to give a bullshit reason for why it is a "false equivalence" when it is not even slightly a false equivalence.


Well built men and women are what are in most well-drawn comics. There's not false equivalence.


It is near impossible for either men and women to look like comic book characters.


They are both near impossibly attractive (males and females). Also, there are many different body types of men in comic books but most range from highly athletic to professional body-builder levels of physiques.

We know from research that a large portion prefer men with a lean athletic physique (muscles, but not huge...). That's very hard to obtain for most men. That's no different than the silly women drawn in comic books who have large boobs but have a professional figure or fitness competitor's body.


They are both highly sexualized. Comics like the one you posted are dishonest and a perpetuating bullshit regarding this topic. Both sexes are highly sexualized in comic books. They are supposed to represent fantasy versions of humans that are the most sexually attractive, the majority of the time. Even some of the villains are made like that.

Watch the below video I post in reply to Dramatic Gecko:


Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Oh yes I fully agree with that. Just the other day there was a comparison between Spider Man and Spider Woman and OH MY GAWD! Spider Woman's ASS was always exaggerated and her boobs make ME feel uncomfortable.... Her face is shown just so you can see her lips and hair is long and everywhere (which impractical if you wanna climb around the city) to obviously look SEXY. Comics are very distasteful I am whole heartedly in agreement and it reaches out into a lot of movies as well.

That being said. I believe there is a place where Men and Women can display their sexually attractive features in a mutual celebration of our sexual desires for one another. The world needs a TnA thread.

CB6TiRJNI-Q

You are wrong, the comic is right.

Women do love slender men.

Is it sexist to make a thread discussing people's preferences for hair color on a woman Bardock?

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are wrong, the comic is right.
He's not though, the comic is.

More t*ts and ass, less drama.

the second frame, about male power fantasy. it's true tho. comic book men tend not to be what women find sexy. in fact not much of anything in comics is concerned with what women find sexy. (not that I feel this is a bad thing).

Can you take this to another ****ing thread

https://i.imgur.com/xdzGaYC.jpg

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Can you take this to another ****ing thread

It's relevant here.

Actually it isn't

This thread is a pic dump thread

No discussion on the ethics off gazing upon the wondrous forms of these lovely ladies

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
https://i.imgur.com/xzdsi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/J1iq9.gif

http://gifs.gifbin.com/swyu9847302.gif

http://imgur.com/FMk5z

http://i.imgur.com/noqei.gif

http://imgur.com/MD1RN

http://i.minus.com/icBiIK.gif

The question of whether such a thread should exist, and in how far the people contributing in it should feel bad, is certainly something that can be discussed in the thread.

Originally posted by Bardock42
The question of whether such a thread should exist, and in how far the people contributing in it should feel bad, is certainly something that can be discussed in the thread.
Says the man who dated a 15 year-old.

Originally posted by Astner
Says the man who dated a 15 year-old.

You keep harping on about it, yet do not address any of the points that are brought up to explain how your insinuations are silly. Again, my girlfriend of almost 8 years was 15 when we started dating and I was 20, she seems alright with it, you'll probably get over it in time as well.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You keep harping on about it, yet do not address any of the points that are brought up to explain how your insinuations are silly. Again, my girlfriend of almost 8 years was 15 when we started dating and I was 20, she seems alright with it, you'll probably get over it in time as well.
I have no problems with your preferences. What I have a problem is your hypocrisy.

These gifs are by consenting adults.

Are you just saying whatever comes to your mind?

Originally posted by Slay
Are you just saying whatever comes to your mind?
You mean "do you write..."?

Originally posted by Astner
I have no problems with your preferences. What I have a problem is your hypocrisy.

These gifs are by consenting adults.

You disregard the facts, to come to the conclusion that there is any hypocrisy. My issue with these pictures is not whether they are taken with consent (although almost all of them are not posted with consent), and you know that's not my issue.

Originally posted by Astner
You mean "do you write..."?
Looks like your typo in the other thread has unleashed massive amounts of butthurt, poor little Physics Biebs.

Jesus **** Christ

These women had the choice to put their pics up on the net, from that moment forth their should be no "horn-shaming"

Consenting ADULTS chose to get their pics taken and other consenting ADULTS chose to enjoy them

So if you have nothing to contribute can you please get the ****, outta my thread

Edit:

Jesus 15?

I find the idea of dating a 15 yr old skeevy and I just turned 18

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Jesus **** Christ

These women had the choice to put their pics up on the net, from that moment forth their should be no "horn-shaming"

Consenting ADULTS chose to get their pics taken and other consenting ADULTS chose to enjoy them

So if you have nothing to contribute can you please get the ****, outta my thread
Are you literally on crack? Or are you Astner's butt-buddy?

Originally posted by Bardock42
My issue with these pictures is not whether they are taken with consent (although almost all of them are not posted with consent), and you know that's not my issue.
You're at full liberty to make a similar thread about men. There's no discrimination here.

Originally posted by Slay
Are you literally on crack? Or are you Astner's butt-buddy?
No, he's simply right.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Jesus **** Christ

These women had the choice to put their pics up on the net, from that moment forth their should be no "horn-shaming"

Consenting ADULTS chose to get their pics taken and other consenting ADULTS chose to enjoy them

So if you have nothing to contribute can you please get the ****, outta my thread


See, I disagree with that. I think regardless of whether these women chose to do it, there can be a discussion on the societal ramifications of these kinds of pictures, and the manner in which they are shared and enjoyed.

Additionally your assumption that these have all been made with consent is also faulty. Obviously a lot of these are from videos, that have been put in gif form, you have no idea in what manner the creators and/or women in them wanted their work to be shared.

You are also making toothless threats, you have no authority to stop anyone from posting here, in particular in a discussion regarding the validity of this thread.

Originally posted by Slay
Are you literally on crack? Or are you Astner's butt-buddy?
Listen buddy, I want even taking to you and frankly I don't know Astner. But I an getting sick and tired of people bringing ancillary bullshit into this thread when it isn't needed

Also reported for homophobic slur

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Also reported for homophobic slur

There is nothing misogynistic or sexist or even objectifying about admiring the female form, nor is there anything misogynistic about a thread dedicated to that purpose.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Listen buddy, I want even taking to you and frankly I don't know Astner. But I an getting sick and tired of people bringing ancillary bullshit into this thread when it isn't needed

Also reported for homophobic slur Originally posted by NemeBro
There is nothing misogynistic or sexist or even objectifying about admiring the female form, nor is there anything misogynistic about a thread dedicated to that purpose.

That is exactly the opinion I disagree with. I find a thread like this to be furthering misogynist thought patterns as well as being degrading to women generally.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is exactly the opinion I disagree with. I find a thread like this to be furthering misogynist thought patterns as well as being degrading to women generally.
So beautiful adult law-abiding women aren't allowed to do as they please because less endowed women might be offended?

Originally posted by Astner
So beautiful adult law-abiding women aren't allowed to do as they please because less endowed women might be offended?

That is a complete misrepresentation of what I said. All these people are allowed to do what they did, there's nothing illegal going on here (well, except for the people that repost copyrighted material, that is illegal). My qualm is not one of legality, but of morality, and it has nothing to do with any subjective tiers of how attractive you may find a woman (which must be hard for you). I think threads like this, and the mindset behind threads like this, are harmful to all women, regardless of how attractive anyone may find them, and I also think they are harmful to men.

I don't think they should be illegal, I think people should find such objectification inappropriate, and voice that opinion when coming across it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is exactly the opinion I disagree with. I find a thread like this to be furthering misogynist thought patterns as well as being degrading to women generally. Well let's look up the definition of sexist.

"unfair treatment of people because of their sex"

How does this thread do that? There is exactly nothing stopping a straight woman or gay man from making a thread titled "The Official PnB (Pecs and bulges) Thread". That someone hasn't done so means nothing.

So it's not sexist.

Misogynistic?

Misogyny is defined as "the hatred of women", and a thread dedicated to the female form isn't inherently about that.

So it's not misogynistic.

Objectifying?

The definition of "objectifying" means "to treat as an object".

Whether or not this thread is doing that is arguable because what actually constitutes "objectification" is very vague. I assume you believe this thread is an example of "sexual objectification". But before we can really discuss this, I have to ask; what qualifies as sexual objectification to you?

Is it the concept of physical attractiveness itself? Is acknowledging any physically attractive feature on a woman objectification. Not just boob or butt, but anything someone might find attractive?

Where do you draw the line Bardock?

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is a complete misrepresentation of what I said. All these people are allowed to do what they did, there's nothing illegal going on here (well, except for the people that repost copyrighted material, that is illegal). My qualm is not one of legality, but of morality, and it has nothing to do with any subjective tiers of how attractive you may find a woman (which must be hard for you). I think threads like this, and the mindset behind threads like this, are harmful to all women, regardless of how attractive anyone may find them, and I also think they are harmful to men.

I don't think they should be illegal, I think people should find such objectification inappropriate, and voice that opinion when coming across it. This is a lot of fluff with little substance. You're tossing out buzz words without any justification for why you think that way.

Give an in-depth explanation for your views or stop posting. Because I'm getting tired of reading the same thing over and over again Bardock.

Originally posted by Bardock42
See, I disagree with that. I think regardless of whether these women chose to do it, there can be a discussion on the societal ramifications of these kinds of pictures, and the manner in which they are shared and enjoyed.

Additionally your assumption that these have all been made with consent is also faulty. Obviously a lot of these are from videos, that have been put in gif form, you have no idea in what manner the creators and/or women in them wanted their work to be shared.

You are also making toothless threats, you have no authority to stop anyone from posting here, in particular in a discussion regarding the validity of this thread.

So what's your arguament?

That this thread is degrading to women?

Explain to me how?

That it sets an impossible standard for women to live up to?

Everything in life does that for us. Life is a constant game of betterment.

That these were made without the women's consent?

The OC was made with the consent of the women. I dunno there's something about these that just doesn't scream "I didn't wanna do this"
Also its laughable how you keep on jumping from arguament to arguament trying to find one that sticks

Oh and that wasn't a "toothless threat", that was me being polite after three goddamn pages off you derailing this thread

Originally posted by Slay


Its funny that you think I was joking

Originally posted by NemeBro
There is nothing misogynistic or sexist or even objectifying about admiring the female form, nor is there anything misogynistic about a thread dedicated to that purpose.

Thank you

Originally posted by Astner
So beautiful adult law-abiding women aren't allowed to do as they please because less endowed women might be offended?
The key word here being "adult"

When I talk about sexism and misogyny I do not talk about a one line dictionary definition of sexism, but a sociological concept.

You are however treating women unfairly, due to the constant and ubiquitous objectification of women in society. To arrive at the conclusion that a thread about men would be equal you have to tune out a massive amount of real life difference in how men and women are treated (that is easy to do, but it is still a mistake).

This thread is a product of the devaluing of women as human beings, as such I view it as misogynist. It most definitely treats women (and even more so, particular body parts of women) as objects of sexual gratification, that is the whole premise. Whether or not we have to discuss a line, it would be so far crossed by this thread that it is silly. "Lets look at the butt cheeks of women, disregarding their personhood, to get off sexually...I can't tell for sure, but I think it's in an objectification grey zone"

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is a complete misrepresentation of what I said. All these people are allowed to do what they did, there's nothing illegal going on here (well, except for the people that repost copyrighted material, that is illegal). My qualm is not one of legality, but of morality, and it has nothing to do with any subjective tiers of how attractive you may find a woman (which must be hard for you). I think threads like this, and the mindset behind threads like this, are harmful to all women, regardless of how attractive anyone may find them, and I also think they are harmful to men.

I don't think they should be illegal, I think people should find such objectification inappropriate, and voice that opinion when coming across it.
You don't have any educational merits in terms of psychology, don't pretend that you know anything of the mental health of people let alone what should and shouldn't be legal.

Originally posted by Astner
You don't have any educational merits in terms of psychology, don't pretend that you know anything of the mental health of people let alone what should and shouldn't be legal.

I reject your premise that one has to have an academic or educational background in a subject to discuss it with knowledge. However, I made no claims as to anything psychological, so I also don't know what your accusation refers to at all.

If women wanna show there asses off, that is their decision, no one is making them take their clothes off and post pictures of themselves.

Bank on that

On with the T&A!

To fck what Bardock thinks! XD

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If women wanna show there asses off, that is their decision, no one is making them take their clothes off and post pictures of themselves.

Bank on that

Well, that is not always true, there are of course socio-economic or worse violent ways in which women are pressured to do so.

But that was not my initial point at all. I granted the assumption that all original work was done with consent. My gripe is with the societal standards and whether we should hold ourselves to different moral codes than what this thread implies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, that is not always true, there are of course socio-economic or worse violent ways in which women are pressured to do so.

But that was not my initial point at all. I granted the assumption that all original work was done with consent. My gripe is with the societal standards and whether we should hold ourselves to different moral codes than what this thread implies.

No women here have done anything not consensual. Its on you to prove that they have not consented in order for you to base your opinion on .

Originally posted by Bardock42
I reject your premise that one has to have an academic or educational background in a subject to discuss it with knowledge.
That's not what I said.

What I said was that you can't expect people to take you seriously when all your arguments stem from your opinions, especially when you don't have any relevant credential merits.

Originally posted by Bardock42
When I talk about sexism and misogyny I do not talk about a one line dictionary definition of sexism, but a sociological concept.

Or more accurately, what certain feminists tried to twist the definitions of sexism and misogyny into to fit their agenda. Even allowing less "extreme" definitions, like a mere prejudice against women, or a hatred for women not falling into certain gender roles the individual might have set up... would not apply to this thread.



So what you're saying is that acknowledging features that might make a woman attractive is in itself misogynistic because they happen to face more objectification than men? Sorry, but that shit's not flying with me.

In most or all of the pictures in this thread the women consented to distribution of the pictures or videos they appeared in with the express purpose of making a buck out of flaunting their body. Their mindset has been accounted for and is in line with the train of thought that these pictures being posted is fine.



You're telling people that they can't use the pictures and videos these women chose to make in the purpose the women intended them to be used (For admiration of an attractive woman). You are implicitly asserting that these women should not have done so by demonizing the right straight men or gay women have to admire these pictures. If there is anyone who is disregarding the personhood of these women Bardock, it's you.

"Objects of sexual gratification"? Or does it just acknowledge the aesthetic quality of the female form? Is finding the female form appealing on its own merits misogynistic Bardock? Answer this question.

Originally posted by Astner
That's not what I said.

What I said was that you can't expect people to take you seriously when all your arguments stem from your opinions, especially when you don't have any relevant credential merits.

I feel like everyone is taking me seriously enough to reply to my points. If they are not convincing, so be it, I do think they would likely sway some people, however.

At any rate, the same can be said for all of you, just because you argue for the status quo and I argue for a different POV does not make one opinion inherently bettter than the other.

All the women here are whores. Thats what they are Bardock, lets not paint them as NUNs of the Church. They like showing off their bodies and they do it well. Scarlet has admitted shes a whore who sleeps around! All these girls in the thread are whores, this is what whores do! If someone see there gf in one of the pics, guess what! Ur dating a whore!

Glad you posted Supra.

Now you see Bardock, this thread is not misogynistic. It can just attract misogynistic people, as seen above. Is that the point you were trying to make?

Edit: Who the **** is Scarlet?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I feel like everyone is taking me seriously enough to reply to my points.
You're right. My mistake, let me correct that right away.

http://i.imgur.com/6JrAtdx.gif

Scarlett Johansen one of the admitted sluts of Hollywood posted in the thread. She likes being like that.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I don't find this sexy! (lie) I was just pointing out how this is completely okay to show without scrutiny whilst some people are judged for liking to look at boobs.

Plus NemeBro hates me. Just caught this.

No I don't.

Johansen?

+ ffs supra

Edit: not ****ing strong enough:

Jesus mother****ing Christ on a cracker, we're over here arguing that this thread is far from misogynistic and then you chime over here flinging your feces like the primate you are

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Johansen?

+ ffs supra

Did you post a picture of her or gif. Yea she likes being objectified. Thats her whole image.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Surely you can see how the portrayal of Chris Hemsworth up there

Also just caught this.

The portrayal of Chris Hemsworth up there? You mean the scene where it lingers lovingly on his bare, buff, vaguely sweaty torso with the sun glistening off of it? Which had a woman explicitly objectifying him?

You might claim that Thor is meant to be a character the male audience is supposed to identify with, but for this section of the movie Thor is viewed through a human lens to emphasize his unusual Asgardian behavior. We were meant to identify with the women who were admiring a hot bod.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Or more accurately, what certain feminists tried to twist the definitions of sexism and misogyny into to fit their agenda. Even allowing less "extreme" definitions, like a mere prejudice against women, or a hatred for women not falling into certain gender roles the individual might have set up... would not apply to this thread.


While we disagree on the definition, the question would be, now that you know my definition is the more broad one that you allege "certain feminists tried to twist", would you agree with my point under my definitions? If so, we have no disagreement, if not, then we can continue the discussion on that basis. I have no interest in discussing a semantic argument of "but that doesn't fit my 3 word definition I found on Merriam-Webster".


Originally posted by NemeBro
So what you're saying is that acknowledging features that might make a woman attractive is in itself misogynistic because they happen to face more objectification than men? Sorry, but that shit's not flying with me.


Acknowledging things you find attractive and sharing and posting such things on a public forum are completely different actions, with completely different consequences.


Originally posted by NemeBro
In most or all of the pictures in this thread the women consented to distribution of the pictures or videos they appeared in with the express purpose of making a buck out of flaunting their body. Their mindset has been accounted for and is in line with the train of thought that these pictures being posted is fine.


I find your faith in these reposts being true to the copyright on the pictures/gifs/videos ridiculous. However I never cared to discuss the illegal reproduction of the media in this thread, that was a misinterpretation of my point by your side.


Originally posted by NemeBro
You're telling people that they can't use the pictures and videos these women chose to make in the purpose the women intended them to be used (For admiration of an attractive woman). You are implicitly asserting that these women should not have done so by demonizing the right straight men or gay women have to admire these pictures. If there is anyone who is disregarding the personhood of these women Bardock, it's you.

Part of treating women as people is understanding that you can disagree with their actions. I disagree with your opinions here, yet I still view you as a person. They can do what they want, and like I said I lay the bulk of the blame of this on the cultural norms and the market place that makes these things a viable business, not the people trying to make some money out of it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
"Objects of sexual gratification"? Or does it just acknowledge the aesthetic quality of the female form? Is finding the female form appealing on its own merits misogynistic Bardock? Answer this question.

Again you are comparing two completely different things. But to answer your three questions. Yes. No. No.

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Johansen?

+ ffs supra

Edit: not ****ing strong enough:

Jesus mother****ing Christ on a cracker, we're over here arguing that this thread is far from misogynistic and then you come over here flinging your feces like the primate you are

Originally posted by NemeBro
Glad you posted Supra.

Now you see Bardock, this thread is not misogynistic. It can just attract misogynistic people, as seen above. Is that the point you were trying to make?

Edit: Who the **** is Scarlet?

It's part of the point I'm trying to make. I think this thread was made due to misogyny. I think it attracts misogynist people. And I think it furthers the acceptance of misogyny, albeit in a small way, since it won't have much influence on anything.

http://jayinames.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/bouncing-gifs_450x337_8de8.gif

Some peoples balls need to drop I think.

Originally posted by Bardock42
While we disagree on the definition, the question would be, now that you know my definition is the more broad one that you allege "certain feminists tried to twist", would you agree with my point under my definitions? If so, we have no disagreement, if not, then we can continue the discussion on that basis. I have no interest in discussing a semantic argument of "but that doesn't fit my 3 word definition I found on Merriam-Webster".




Acknowledging things you find attractive and sharing and posting such things on a public forum are completely different actions, with completely different consequences.




I find your faith in these reposts being true to the copyright on the pictures/gifs/videos ridiculous. However I never cared to discuss the illegal reproduction of the media in this thread, that was a misinterpretation of my point by your side.




Part of treating women as people is understanding that you can disagree with their actions. I disagree with your opinions here, yet I still view you as a person. They can do what they want, and like I said I lay the bulk of the blame of this on the cultural norms and the market place that makes these things a viable business, not the people trying to make some money out of it.



Again you are comparing two completely different things. But to answer your three questions. Yes. No. No.

When sometime twists a definition to their own purpose, purposely stretching the meaning of the word then no. That isn't the definition



So a thread on the all around swellness of the fairer sex is out?
Also weren't you the one telling me
Originally posted by Bardock42
you have no authority to stop anyone from posting here, in particular in a discussion regarding the validity of this thread.



Now your basically just taking a bunch of fluff (not shit, cos that actually has substance)


Well done you basically just told everyone who enjoyed thread, that they all treat women like objects.
You know just the other I found myself thinking about my Mum, my aunt, my grandmother, my sisters, my female cousins and my female friends as a collective "it" /s


Bah

Originally posted by Bardock42
While we disagree on the definition, the question would be, now that you know my definition is the more broad one that you allege "certain feminists tried to twist", would you agree with my point under my definitions? If so, we have no disagreement, if not, then we can continue the discussion on that basis. I have no interest in discussing a semantic argument of "but that doesn't fit my 3 word definition I found on Merriam-Webster".

You still haven't actually given your definition. You just said it was a "sociological concept". Given that among feminists and non-feminists what qualifies as "misogyny" can wildly differ you're going to need to define it a bit better than that.



So it's fine but only if you do it in solitude? A sort of "don't ask don't tell" deal? That's preposterous. There is nothing inherently wrong with sharing photos of women you find attractive online.

What are the consequences?



I find your assumption that I gave a dick or was talking about the copyrights of the photographs assumptive. I'm saying that those women knew many people would see and admire those photos or videos before they were made and chose to do so anyway. Whether the reposts are true to the copyrights or not is irrelevant to the act of admiration itself, which is a statement I think you will agree with. I just happen to see nothing wrong with said admiration.



Glad we can agree on this much at least.



Did you just call me a woman!?



What exactly is inherently morally reprehensible about modeling (Or in the case of some of these photos, pornography I expect)?



Explain to me how they are different my son. Explain to me how focusing on a woman's breasts or ass is inherently different than focusing on her lips, eyes, hair, or, I don't know, feet.

Originally posted by Astner
http://jayinames.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/bouncing-gifs_450x337_8de8.gif Source?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Some peoples balls need to drop I think.

Please be quiet. No one wants to hear you incessant chattering

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's part of the point I'm trying to make. I think this thread was made due to misogyny. I think it attracts misogynist people. And I think it furthers the acceptance of misogyny, albeit in a small way, since it won't have much influence on anything. Explain how Max was being misogynistic.

I'll grant you that it can certainly attract misogynistic people, much like a really good cheeseburger can attract flies. But there isn't anything inherently wrong with the cheeseburger, is there Bardock?

How does it further the acceptance of misogyny?

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Please be quiet. No one wants to hear you incessant chattering

You seem Butthurt

Originally posted by NemeBro
Source?

Seriously though Astner, source.

Hell yeah. Some lovely picks of TnA.

learn to do google image search.

I need things handed to me.

That's why I'm here.

And yet there are 4 wasted pages

Granted I don't know why max was posting pictures of fat chicks but hey, they need loving too I guess.

I actually sort of found her. Seems to be a girl of Eastern European descent. Can't read. Oh well.