Nyriss vs Revan (Not a vs thread...kinda)

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red8
I never read the book Revan since it ruins the Exile's character, but I was curious about how the book compares Revan to the Exile and to Nyriss.

Situation: Let's say Nyriss unleashed her lightning attack and finished off the Exile and Scourge. Revan wakes up afterwards, grabs a lightsaber, and engages Nyriss in an all-out duel.

Who would win?

Let's assume Nyriss doesn't disintegrate herself.

DarthAnt66
This goes in the versus section.
And it is heavily impled Revan is much greater then Nyriss.

AncientPower
In reality everything Nyriss did is a nexus feat.

S_W_LeGenD
@red8

It would be a fight, IMO.

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Revan is superior to any Jedi and also to every member of Sith Triumvirate. I know that superiority to Darth Nihilus tends to generate debate but I blame authors for not clarifying his strengths and weaknesses properly, leaving the door for wild speculations open from fans.

Selenial
Originally posted by AncientPower
In reality everything Nyriss did is a nexus feat.

Pretty much this.

The book makes the exile out as way less powerful, but only in that Meetra always thinks she's less powerful than everyone else does, guess you could put it down to modesty?

S_W_LeGenD
Dromund Kaas is not a nexus of dark side on the whole, at-least officially.

AncientPower
Revan is more powerful than Nihilus in a sense but he would die just like most of everyone else would if they 1 vs 1'd.

I think Revan, Surik and probably Scourge all in their prime, would all defeat Nyriss off nexus.

AncientPower
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Dromund Kaas is not a nexus of dark side on the whole, at-least officially.
You kidding me? It's one of the strongest nexi in the galaxy, officially.

Selenial
Originally posted by AncientPower
You kidding me? It's one of the strongest nexi in the galaxy, officially.

Malachors the only planetary Nexus I can think of that's stronger, obviously not counting things like the font of power.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by AncientPower
You kidding me? It's one of the strongest nexi in the galaxy, officially.
Some regions are identified as nexus of dark side on Dromund Kaas officially, these are undoubtedly very strong nexus(es). Emperor Vitiate created a powerful nexus of dark side in/around Dark Temple with his dark side practices.

Entire planet is strong in the dark side but not a nexus on the whole, this is the impression that I get from official sources.

AncientPower
The entire planet is like the Emperor's back garden. Every nexus on every world has focal points where the nexus is strongest. Make no mistake it definitely covered the planet.

Selenial
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Some regions are identified as nexus of dark side on Dromund Kaas officially, these are undoubtedly very strong nexus(es). Emperor Vitiate created a powerful nexus of dark side in/around Dark Temple.

Entire planet is strong in the dark side but not a nexus on the whole, this is the impression that I get from official sources.

Strong in the Dark Side = Nexus

But this point is moot, Nyriss had thousands of Sith artefacts, of course her Stronghold was a nexus.

S_W_LeGenD
Even if the nexus argument holds, doubting credibility of a Dark Council member is not wise.

Nexus does not transforms a mook in to a monster.

Emperordmb
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Nexus does not transforms a mook in to a monster.
A statement I can agree with thumb up

DarthAnt66
Abeloth and Lord Nyax don't.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Selenial
Malachors the only planetary Nexus I can think of that's stronger, obviously not counting things like the font of power.

Lehon?

S_W_LeGenD
Abeloth tapped in to the power of two nexuses and I think that those nexuses had properties to transform individuals.

However, ground realities of every nexus is not same. Dark Temple drove many individuals insane, did not empower them.

Selenial
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Abeloth tapped in to the power of two nexuses and I think that those nexuses had properties to transform individuals.

However, ground realities of every nexus is not same. Dark Temple drove many individuals insane, did not empower them.

Any darksiders was empowered by it instead of driven insane.

Based
Right, the Dark Temple only affected ordinary citizens, troops and weak acolytes. Nox and Wrath were mere apprentices and handled the temple just fine.

In fact I'm gonna go on my Sorc rn and go through that questing chain.

Selenial
Originally posted by Based
Right, the Dark Temple only affected ordinary citizens, troops and weak acolytes. Nox and Wrath were mere apprentices and handled the temple just fine.

In fact I'm gonna go on my Sorc rn and go through that questing chain.

Isn't there some relic that empowers anyone who's dark 1 or above? (Below?)

red8
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
This goes in the versus section.
And it is heavily impled Revan is much greater then Nyriss.

Is there anyway you could post quotes/evidence that heavily implies that Revan is much greater than Nyriss? I'm genuinely curious.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@red8

It would be a fight, IMO.

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Revan is superior to any Jedi and also to every member of Sith Triumvirate. I know that superiority to Darth Nihilus tends to generate debate but I blame authors for not clarifying his strengths and weaknesses properly, leaving the door for wild speculations open from fans.

Just to clarify, when you say "It would be a fight", do you mean you believe it could go either way?

NewGuy01
Revan is a head/shoulders above Nyriss in terms of raw strength in the Force, and his range of powers is grander as well.

In terms of lightsaber dueling, they're actually probably pretty closely matched in terms technical proficiency and effectiveness, with Revan being more of a calculating generalist whilst Nyriss an aggressive specialist.

The battle taking place on a Dark Side Nexus helps Nyriss's odds, but in the end the likelyhood is that if he doesn't incinerate her with her absorbed lightning, he'd likely channel it into a TK assault of similar devastating capacity.

Revan is just better than Darth Nyriss is.

DarthAnt66
thumb up. red8, I'll get you some quotes once I return from vacation.

FreshestSlice

DarthAnt66
"Revan emerged from the cell. He Had pulled the hood of his Jedi robe up to cover his head, and he word the red-and-gray mask, hiding his face. A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss's hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies. Instead of leaping back into the cell to avoid the deadly attack, Revan stepped forward to intercept it. Both hands were held in front of him, his arms fully extended at shoulder height, his thumbs touching and his fingers splayed wide. He drew the bolts of lightning into his waiting grasp, channeling them away from their intended targets and absorbing their power. 'I am Revan reborn,' he said to Nyriss. 'And before me you are nothing.' Nyriss's eyes went wide as Revan unleashed the power of her own attack against her. She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

"It was easy to understand how Scourge could be drawn to him; Revan's command of the Force was greater then that of anyone else she had ever met."
―Meetra Surik (Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan)

"The Jedi's command of and connection to the Force was unlike anything Scourge had sensed in anyone else. Even though Revan was constantly drugged, it was impossible not to sense his strength."
―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

"Scourge reveals to the Emperor Nyris's plot against him, presenting him with evidence of her treachery. The Emperor orders the Imperial Guard to strike against Nyris. Using the chaos of this reprisal as cover, Scourge and Meetra free Revan but are nearly stopped by Nyris. Revan's raw power in the Force bends Nyris's Sith lightning back at her, utterly destroying the Sith Lord."
―Star Wars The Essential Reader's Companion

"There was something unnerving about staring into the faceless mask; it made Revan seem more intimidating, more powerful. Or maybe Scourge just felt that way because he'd watched him destroy Nyriss."
―Scourge (Star Wars The Old Republic)

red8
Thank you guys.

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