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Who wins?
No prep..
No B.F.R..



Spider-Man
Agent Venom


Vs


Black Panther
Deathstroke

No....not Deathstroke dammit.

If it was Superior Spider-Man, he'd win. Regular? Nope.

Originally posted by OnslaughtKILLS
If it was Superior Spider-Man, he'd win. Regular? Nope.



Its Peter..

Why not Deathstroke? lol

Originally posted by Vanguard
No....not Deathstroke dammit.


Vanguard!!
Why not Deathstroke buddy!?
U no like ?

Originally posted by Supermex
Its Peter..

Why not Deathstroke? lol

I know, I'm just saying if it WAS Superior, they would win.

Spider-Man imo can win alone

Is Agent Venom a weak-link here or is it Deathstroke?

Just walking.. Maybe there even

Originally posted by Supermex
Its Peter..

Why not Deathstroke? lol

I just don't see him working well with Panther. And Spiderman does not solo.

By default Flash is the weak link especially with how Taskmaster tooled him. Slade and BP have the best gear.

Peter solos.

Originally posted by cdtm
Peter solos.

Oh Please

Typical Spider Man underestimation.

No offense, but Spidey often gets lumped into the street leveler category, when the fact is he's about ten steps above that.

Panther and Slade are, at most, about equal to Daredevil or Captain America in physical stats. Spidey can wipe the floor with 5 or 10 Captain America's or Daredevil's.. He's far above them on the power scale.

Yeah, Slade and Panther also have tech that could definitely bring Peter down.. If they can nail him with it, and can keep from getting blitzed.

Originally posted by cdtm
Typical Spider Man underestimation.

No offense, but Spidey often gets lumped into the street leveler category, when the fact is he's about ten steps above that.

Panther and Slade are, at most, about equal to Daredevil or Captain America in physical stats. Spidey can wipe the floor with 5 or 10 Captain America's or Daredevil's.. He's far above them on the power scale.

Yeah, Slade and Panther also have tech that could definitely bring Peter down.. If they can nail him with it, and can keep from getting blitzed.

Man Panther is superhuman. Where have you been?

And Panther has always physically been above DD.

If you're talking about the "Lord of the undead" upgrade, where he gets all the experience and some power of past Panthers.. In theory, he should be amped up insanely..

In practice, as far as I've seen he's still the same old Black Panther, at least by raw physical stats.

But as far as the Panther being above Matt and Cap....

Cap's got writers having him put down HULK. Total bullshit showing for certain (Up there with Panther arm barring Surfer, perhaps. ), but he's been written as superhuman for awhile now. Check for a thread where Cap and Bat's strength feats are compared.

While Matt, he's known mostly for deflecting bullets back at their target. The radar sense accounts for some of it, but he'd still need top end reflex's..

Plus, he beat down Fisk, who's pretty blatantly superhuman himself. I mean, he's crumpled up steel beams like they're made of tin foil, and done things like casually fling open a heavy safe door using one hand that Matt almost dislocated his shoulders trying open with both hands.

I wouldn't call him the same old Panther. He blitzed Black Swan and one shotted her. He beat up on Black Dwarf. And he showed the speed to overwhelm Namor.

But even on Marvel.com they make the point of saying the heart shaped herb makes him Superhuman.

Originally posted by Supermutant
By default Flash is the weak link especially with how Taskmaster tooled him. Having one bad showing doesn't make you a weak link. Flash has beaten Cap, defeated Kaine, gave Carnage a run for his money. He may not be Eddie Brock but he is still Venom. And he is physically superior to anyone in this thread.

Originally posted by SamZED
Having one bad showing doesn't make you a weak link. Flash has beaten Cap, defeated Kaine, gave Carnage a run for his money. He may not be Eddie Brock but he is still Venom. And he is physically superior to anyone in this thread.

All the other three have beaten people physically superior to them all the time and teams at that. But greater physical stats is not at auto win especially when the others are much more skill, much smarter especially when battle tactics are concern, and have a lot of more experience especially pre-52 Slade.

Originally posted by Supermutant
All the other three have beaten people physically superior to them all the time and teams at that. But greater physical stats is not at auto win especially when the others are much more skill, much smarter especially when battle tactics are concern, and have a lot of more experience especially pre-52 Slade.
Tbf they've also lost to characters who are less experienced but had greater stats. But yeah, I agree that physical superiority is no auto win, all i'm saying - he's hardly a weak link in a direct confrontation. And i'm not even taking into consideration some of the more exotic powers the Venom symbiote has displayed in the past.

Originally posted by cdtm

While Matt, he's known mostly for deflecting bullets back at their target. The radar sense accounts for some of it, but he'd still need top end reflex's..

Plus, he beat down Fisk, who's pretty blatantly superhuman himself. I mean, he's crumpled up steel beams like they're made of tin foil, and done things like casually fling open a heavy safe door using one hand that Matt almost dislocated his shoulders trying open with both hands. You do realize that a depowered and much less technologically supported Panther beat fisk in a fight right?

Which puts him about even to Matt.

And based only on that and nothing else, above Cap, seeing he needed Falcon to bail him out.

Originally posted by deathslash
You do realize that a depowered and much less technologically supported Panther beat fisk in a fight right? Do you have scans? I'd like to see that fight.

Originally posted by SamZED
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