Who are the greatest film antagonists ?

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quanchi112
Well ?

Flyattractor
define "antagonists*

Mindset
MOS Superman. smile

Epicurus
By greatest, do you mean most evil/despicable, or the most powerful and/or grandiose?

Edit: My vote goes to Hannibal Lecter.

Zack Fair
Vintage Vader is among the top.

WhiteWitchKing
Demolition Man

fostersAccount
The dude from schindler's list

Based
Hans Landa.

dynamix
Originally posted by Based
Hans Landa.

that dude was a G. One of the best villains ever.

Kazenji
Freddy Krueger (Englund).

Arachnid1
Ozymandias is one of my tops.

The Creeper is an awesome horror movie monster. He's my top over both Jason and Freddy (we'll, Jason possible ties).

Alex DeLarge, from A Clockwork Orange (though he is the main character, so that might not make him the antagonist).

Khan from both the old and the new movies. I love smart villains like him and Ozy.

quanchi112
By greatest I mean by antagonizing those who get in their way. Power has nothing to do with this thread.

Kazenji
Calvin candie.

marwash22
Michael Myers.
Voldemort.
The dude from "No Country for Old Men"
TDK Joker.

Tzeentch
I'll throw my hat in with Man of Steel Superman as well.

marwash22
lol. haters gonna hate.

Inhuman
Originally posted by Mindset
MOS Superman. smile

haermm thumb up

Originally posted by Arachnid1

The Creeper is an awesome horror movie monster.

Really ? lol i didnt like the creeper at all confused



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Nicholson in shining was pretty neat

Tzeentch
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Eat your heart out, Bin Laden.

Though to be fair, that estimate also takes into consideration the World Engine iirc.

marwash22
yeah, and Superman was responsible for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

NemeBro
Since "antagonist" in this thread seems to be synonymous with "villain", I'll throw in Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood. El Indio and Angel Eyes from the Dollars trilogy as well.

Kazenji
Originally posted by marwash22
yeah, and Superman was responsible for it. roll eyes (sarcastic)

And this is what Superman does

1. Clark saves coworker on fishing boat
2. Clark saves 6 or 7 men from oil rig fire
3. Clark saves those same 6 or 7 men plus the Coast Guard Rescue team from being crushed
4. Young Clark saves a buss load of children from drowning
5. Clark saves a waitress from potential sexual assault
6. Clark saves Lois from Kryptonian robot
7. Superman attempts to save earths 6 billion+ population by turning himself over to Zod
8. Superman saves lois from crashing escape pod
9. Superman saves Martha from Zod
10. Superman saves U.S. Airman from falling
11. Superman saves Colonel Hardy from Faora
12. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by stopping the world engine
13. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by destroying the birthing chamber preventing Zod from creating a master race
14. Superman saves Lois from the Phantom Zone event Horizon
15. Superman man saves countless millions be killing Zod who can not be stopped any other way. Yes Superman could fly him away from the train station saving that family but Zod has already said he will NEVER STOP! No prison on earth can hold him, no human weapon can stop him, Kryptonite doesn't exist as far as we know, and Superman has no way of sending Zod to the Phantom Zone.

draxx_tOfU
Magua - Last of the Mohicans
Hannibal Lecter - Silence of the Lambs
Castor Troy - Face/Off
Bill the Butcher - Gangs of New York
Col. Nathan Jessup - A Few Good Men
Frank Costello - The Departed
Det. Alonzo Harris - Training Day
Scar - The Lion King
Hades - Hercules

Inhuman
Mugato -zoolander

Tzeentch
Originally posted by marwash22
yeah, and Superman was responsible for it. roll eyes (sarcastic) The World Engine? Nah. Definitely some of those sky scrapers though. And half of Smallville.

And this.

http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/man-of-steel-truck.jpg

It's almost like Clark can enter a disassociative state that frees him from guilt for his actions.

Kazenji
The Operative - Serenity.

marwash22
Originally posted by Kazenji
And this is what Superman does

1. Clark saves coworker on fishing boat
2. Clark saves 6 or 7 men from oil rig fire
3. Clark saves those same 6 or 7 men plus the Coast Guard Rescue team from being crushed
4. Young Clark saves a buss load of children from drowning
5. Clark saves a waitress from potential sexual assault
6. Clark saves Lois from Kryptonian robot
7. Superman attempts to save earths 6 billion+ population by turning himself over to Zod
8. Superman saves lois from crashing escape pod
9. Superman saves Martha from Zod
10. Superman saves U.S. Airman from falling
11. Superman saves Colonel Hardy from Faora
12. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by stopping the world engine
13. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by destroying the birthing chamber preventing Zod from creating a master race
14. Superman saves Lois from the Phantom Zone event Horizon
15. Superman man saves countless millions be killing Zod who can not be stopped any other way. Yes Superman could fly him away from the train station saving that family but Zod has already said he will NEVER STOP! No prison on earth can hold him, no human weapon can stop him, Kryptonite doesn't exist as far as we know, and Superman has no way of sending Zod to the Phantom Zone. *sniffle* "b-b-but-but, he broke Zod's neck!" *sniffle*

Lestov16
I was under the impression Supes' "no kill" rule only applied to humans.

NemeBro
You were under the wrong impression.

Robtard
Commodos from Gladiator (2000). Love to hate that guy.

BruceSkywalker
Darth Vader from the original Star Wars trilogy, hands down,, there is no other

oh and in addition to Vader, the original, repeat ORIGINAL Khan is close second

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Tzeentch
The World Engine? Nah. Definitely some of those sky scrapers though. And half of Smallville.

And this.

http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/man-of-steel-truck.jpg

It's almost like Clark can enter a disassociative state that frees him from guilt for his actions.

Stupid redneck trucker got off easy.

Robtard
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Darth Vader from the original Star Wars trilogy, hands down,, there is no other

oh and in addition to Vader, the original, repeat ORIGINAL Khan is close second

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2009/01/14/st2khan.gif

Arachnid1
Originally posted by Inhuman
Really ? lol i didnt like the creeper at all confused Huh, thats the first time I've seen a negative opinion of the Creeper. His design was great, and his scenes scared that shit out of me more than any other horror movie monster except for maybe Pinhead (even scenes where he's standing there or pacing back and forth; it had a errie unnatural feel to it all, which I never had from Jason or Freddy). His old school theme song put the fear of god into me too. When you heard it, you knew shit as about to get terrible.

Not to mention the ending to his first movie was one of the greatest horror movie endings I've ever seen. Darry just screaming in the Creepers dark and dank lair until you close up on his flayed skin and the Creeper now rocking his eyes was a scene that had my heart in my mouth. That ending stuck with me.

Jeepers Creepers 2 is horrible though. I've forgotten the majority of it, thank god. The first one was a masterpiece of a horror movie.

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quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2009/01/14/st2khan.gif He was awful.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was awful.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l32gOUK29iU/UXWDXasbteI/AAAAAAAAX_k/RuqYnbCXnls/s1600/Khan.jpeg

Arachnid1
Originally posted by Robtard
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l32gOUK29iU/UXWDXasbteI/AAAAAAAAX_k/RuqYnbCXnls/s1600/Khan.jpeg He was awful...ly superior to NuKhan.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l32gOUK29iU/UXWDXasbteI/AAAAAAAAX_k/RuqYnbCXnls/s1600/Khan.jpeg Originally posted by Arachnid1
He was awful...ly superior to NuKhan. NuKhan blew his performance out of the water.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Kazenji
And this is what Superman does

1. Clark saves coworker on fishing boat
2. Clark saves 6 or 7 men from oil rig fire
3. Clark saves those same 6 or 7 men plus the Coast Guard Rescue team from being crushed
4. Young Clark saves a buss load of children from drowning
5. Clark saves a waitress from potential sexual assault
6. Clark saves Lois from Kryptonian robot
7. Superman attempts to save earths 6 billion+ population by turning himself over to Zod
8. Superman saves lois from crashing escape pod
9. Superman saves Martha from Zod
10. Superman saves U.S. Airman from falling
11. Superman saves Colonel Hardy from Faora
12. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by stopping the world engine
13. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by destroying the birthing chamber preventing Zod from creating a master race
14. Superman saves Lois from the Phantom Zone event Horizon
15. Superman man saves countless millions be killing Zod who can not be stopped any other way. Yes Superman could fly him away from the train station saving that family but Zod has already said he will NEVER STOP! No prison on earth can hold him, no human weapon can stop him, Kryptonite doesn't exist as far as we know, and Superman has no way of sending Zod to the Phantom Zone.

Don't get worked up over their trolling lol.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Don't get worked up over their trolling lol. Irony.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Shut up.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I antagonize you and you told me to kill myself. Pathetic.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by quanchi112
I antagonize you and you told me to kill myself. Pathetic. Shut up.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Shut up. I am inside your bald ugly head.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
NuKhan blew his performance out of the water.

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/12220-18157.gif

marwash22
Rob is the only one allowed to antagonize Quan, and even then Rob has to properly lubricate him first.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsM/12220-18157.gif Look how scared he looks. He was quite the sissy in that forgettable film.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by marwash22
Rob is the only one allowed to antagonize Quan, and even then Rob has to properly lubricate him first. mmm

quanchi112
Originally posted by marwash22
Rob is the only one allowed to antagonize Quan, and even then Rob has to properly lubricate him first. Incorrect.

Robtard
Originally posted by marwash22
Rob is the only one allowed to antagonize Quan, and even then Rob has to properly lubricate him first.

It doesn't take much lube now after all these years of use/abuse. A couple drops will do.

playa1258
Originally posted by quanchi112
Look how scared he looks. He was quite the sissy in that forgettable film.

Still considered by many as not only the best Trek film but one of the best sci-fi films, period. But keep hating.

quanchi112
Originally posted by playa1258
Still considered by many as not only the best Trek film but one of the best sci-fi films, period. But keep hating. Subject. It was awful IMO. The guy was a wreck and very incompetent in the film.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by Robtard
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/images/2009/01/14/st2khan.gif


damn straight

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Stupid redneck trucker got off easy. You think Clark destroying a man's livelihood because the man was drunk and giving him a hard time is a response proportionate to the crime? mmm

Originally posted by Kazenji
And this is what Superman does

1. Clark saves coworker on fishing boat
2. Clark saves 6 or 7 men from oil rig fire
3. Clark saves those same 6 or 7 men plus the Coast Guard Rescue team from being crushed
4. Young Clark saves a buss load of children from drowning
5. Clark saves a waitress from potential sexual assault
6. Clark saves Lois from Kryptonian robot
7. Superman attempts to save earths 6 billion+ population by turning himself over to Zod
8. Superman saves lois from crashing escape pod
9. Superman saves Martha from Zod
10. Superman saves U.S. Airman from falling
11. Superman saves Colonel Hardy from Faora
12. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by stopping the world engine
13. Superman saves Earth's 6billion+ inhabitants by destroying the birthing chamber preventing Zod from creating a master race
14. Superman saves Lois from the Phantom Zone event Horizon
15. Superman man saves countless millions be killing Zod who can not be stopped any other way. Yes Superman could fly him away from the train station saving that family but Zod has already said he will NEVER STOP! No prison on earth can hold him, no human weapon can stop him, Kryptonite doesn't exist as far as we know, and Superman has no way of sending Zod to the Phantom Zone.

If I defuse a ticking nuclear bomb that's centered in the middle of Manhattan, am I still a hero if I run over hundreds of pedestrians in my SUV while chasing the terrorist who'd set it?

Dramatic Gecko
Darth Vader people. That is all.

wakkawakkawakka
Originally posted by Tzeentch
You think Clark destroying a man's livelihood because the man was drunk and giving him a hard time is a response proportionate to the crime? mmm



If I defuse a ticking nuclear bomb that's centered in the middle of Manhattan, am I still a hero if I run over hundreds of pedestrians in my SUV while chasing the terrorist who'd set it?

It was probably a company owned truck he would've been just fine.

Yes!

Though for this thread I'd like to nominate the dude from "No Country for Old Men" and Ozymandias.

Tzeentch
He probably lost his job. His truck was "inexplicably" utterly destroyed while he was drunk off his ass in a bar.

Inhuman
Supermans truck and satellite stunts among other things im forgetting, make his film persona as very dickish. An angry, Passive-aggressive A-hole.
Cant believe people are defending this supes behavior. Are you guys even real superman fans lol? Because that didnt seem very "superman" like.
I can see the casual fan liking that nonsense for the simple fact that they can say "it looked badass" *eyeroll*

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Inhuman
Supermans truck and satellite stunt among other things im forgetting, make his film persona as very dickish. Angry, Passive-aggressive A-hole.
Cant believe people are defending this supes behavior. Are you guys even real superman fans lol? Because that didnt seem very "superman" like.
I can see the casual fan liking that nonsense for the simple fact that they can say "it looked badass" *eyeroll*

Maybe we all tired of the old superman and are happy to have the man of steel stick up for himself now. God such a tragedy to stick up for yourself these days.

The fact that he didn't kill the guy or lay a hand on him like the original superman did, at the the original bar scene when he beat him down.

I guess you like being spied on in your home as well, or having UAV's fly over you're house, or try and follow you home. God forbid he not want that.

laughing laughing

Inhuman
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Maybe we all tired of the old superman and are happy to have the man of steel stick up for himself now. God such a tragedy to stick up for yourself these days.
The fact that he didn't kill the guy or lay a hand on him like the original superman did, at the the original bar scene when he beat him down.
I guess you like being spied on in your home as well, or having UAV's fly over you're house, or try and follow you home. God forbid he not want that.
laughing laughing

I was wrong. They are using this version of comic superman.



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Tzeentch
That's the type of Superman TM can get behind.

Based
Originally posted by marwash22

Voldemort.


Really? I thought he was as bland as they come.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Tzeentch
That's the type of Superman TM can get behind.

So you both prefer a superhero who is a push over.

Interesting.

No wonder the last 4 superman movies sucked.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Time Immemorial

No wonder the last 4 superman movies sucked.

IYO of course.

AuraAngel
I for one think Vince Vaughn's character in Jurassic Park: The Lost World was morally backrupt beyond redemption but hey.

In all seriousness probably Hannibal Lector. Dat Hopkins.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Kazenji
IYO of course.

Do you past the time re watching Returns or Superman quest for peace? Or bother trying to get the stale acting and boring mood?

Kazenji
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Do you past the time re watching Returns or Superman quest for peace? Or bother trying to get the stale acting and boring mood?

Maybe those two movies sure, But Returns did have some good moments in it just overall a film it wasn't that good.

Flyattractor
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Flyattractor
The Kurgan

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110126154241/highlander/images/5/5e/11547441_gal.png.jpg

...Nuff said

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
So you both prefer a superhero who is a push over.

Interesting.

No wonder the last 4 superman movies sucked. Not being a psychopath who's incapable of percieving the consequences of his actions is "being a pushover"?Originally posted by AuraAngel
I for one think Vince Vaughn's character in Jurassic Park: The Lost World was morally backrupt beyond redemption but hey.

In all seriousness probably Hannibal Lector. Dat Hopkins. Good choice. Nick was a total sociopath in that movie.

Bardock42
Man of Steel was shit, but I don't really get how it is Superman's fault that Metropolis got ****ed up, what's the reasoning behind that?

Robtard
Originally posted by Bardock42
Man of Steel was shit, but I don't really get how it is Superman's fault that Metropolis got ****ed up, what's the reasoning behind that?

Mostly trolling.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Not being a psychopath who's incapable of percieving the consequences of his actions is "being a pushover"? Good choice. Nick was a total sociopath in that movie.

Right and most superhero movies are not filled with psychopaths..they filled with Mother Teresa's like Hulk.

MoS said it all but I dout you watched the whole movie, but here is what he said.

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Newjak
Originally posted by Flyattractor
The Kurgan

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110126154241/highlander/images/5/5e/11547441_gal.png.jpg

...Nuff said Good choice

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Bardock42
Man of Steel was shit, but I don't really get how it is Superman's fault that Metropolis got ****ed up, what's the reasoning behind that? Manfighting through a city with completely reckless disregard for the collateral damage of his actions is pretty certifiably his fault.

Him casually hopping over a thrown gas tanker and allowing it to crash into the building behind him and engulf it in a fireball while he stares petulantly into the camera is a pretty good example. Tackling Faora into an Ihop with dozens of people in it is another.

In the entire fight with Zod, he didn't make a single attempt to draw the battle away from a population center. It'd be one thing if the movie showed Zod actively preventing him from doing so, but he didn't even try. He's a pretty shit hero in the movie, all things considered.

Bardock42
That wasn't really my impression of these fights.

Robtard
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Manfighting through a city with completely reckless disregard for the collateral damage of his actions is pretty certifiably his fault.

Him casually hopping over a thrown gas tanker and allowing it to crash into the building behind him and engulf it in a fireball while he stares petulantly into the camera is a pretty good example. Tackling Faora into an Ihop with dozens of people in it is another.

In the entire fight with Zod, he didn't make a single attempt to draw the battle away from a population center. It'd be one thing if the movie showed Zod actively preventing him from doing so, but he didn't even try. He's a pretty shit hero in the movie, all things considered.

He used his super-vision to see ahead and already knew in each and every scene you noted that no one would have ended up hurt or dead because of his actions.

Why he broke Zod's neck, cos MoS wouldn't allow a single human to die that was preventable on his watch after listening and watching his stupid dad die.

He punched Zod into outer space, that's moving the battle far from a populated area. He's really the ultimate hero. Prove me wrong

Bardock42
That was pretty impressive.

And repairing the damage to metropolis should jump start the economy easily...leading to a period of prosperity and peace.

quanchi112
Saying Superman is the ultimate hero after he killed someone and trashed an entire town in buffoonish fashion is hysterical. More of Roberta's blatant fanboyism.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Tzeentch
Manfighting through a city with completely reckless disregard for the collateral damage of his actions is pretty certifiably his fault.

Him casually hopping over a thrown gas tanker and allowing it to crash into the building behind him and engulf it in a fireball while he stares petulantly into the camera is a pretty good example. Tackling Faora into an Ihop with dozens of people in it is another.

In the entire fight with Zod, he didn't make a single attempt to draw the battle away from a population center. It'd be one thing if the movie showed Zod actively preventing him from doing so, but he didn't even try. He's a pretty shit hero in the movie, all things considered.

Oh you mean like the time he saved a bus full of kids, or the coast guard and oil rig workers, or the A-10 pilot, or stopping the world engine from destroying the planet, or him saving Louis numerous times.

Cry more about collateral damage, drive to ferguson and march against the looters then bro.

Time Immemorial
Tez, You sound the like retards that blamed the avengers for New York's destruction, I guess the avengers are at fault too. What a cry baby.

Inhuman
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Right and most superhero movies are not filled with psychopaths..they filled with Mother Teresa's like Hulk.

hulk is pretty mindless when in smash mode. Thats who he has always been.
Superman has always been a boyscout, saving the damsel in distress, giving hope , etc, etc.
you cant compare the two. different personalities and different "ways" they do things. It has always been like that in the comics.
Same thing for comparing superman to other heroes.
That is something Superman doesnt do. He doesnt automatically get a free pass for whatever justification a fan of the film has.
There was even heavy indication they were going for a "jesus" figure arc. Which makes everything even more ridiculous and laughable.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Tez, You sound the like retards that blamed the avengers for New York's destruction, I guess the avengers are at fault too. What a cry baby.

again , what superman symbolizes is different than other heroes. If anyone comes close its captain america. And Cap has killed in the comics. He fought in word war 1(2) he has killed. AND even then he was saving lives in the battle of new york. Something we didnt see superman do. Superman trumps all in his "boyscoutness". that was not portrayed in the film.

Time Immemorial
He's implying its Superman's fault for Metro's doom, I implied he sounds like the people complaining that it was the avengers fault for destroying Manhahtten.

Its as stupid as it sounds but he said it, talk to him.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
Saying Superman is the ultimate hero after he killed someone and trashed an entire town in buffoonish fashion is hysterical. More of Roberta's blatant fanboyism.

Killing Zod to save innocents and knowing he just lost his last connection to his birthplace/people isn't heroic? You're letting your deep hatred of a fictional character cloud your judgment.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
He used his super-vision to see ahead and already knew in each and every scene you noted that no one would have ended up hurt or dead because of his actions.

Why he broke Zod's neck, cos MoS wouldn't allow a single human to die that was preventable on his watch after listening and watching his stupid dad die.

He punched Zod into outer space, that's moving the battle far from a populated area. He's really the ultimate hero. Prove me wrong

Tez ran from this like a fly from a swatter from this.

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Robtard
He used his super-vision to see ahead and already knew in each and every scene you noted that no one would have ended up hurt or dead because of his actions.If only the film had shown that. sad

Hm, on another note. Was Superman ever shown to have X-Ray vision in the film? I genuinely can't remember.



Zod punched Superman into space, lol.

Robtard
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Tez ran from this like a fly from a swatter from this.


Tez is not a runner; I will not abide you besmirching his name again. Consider that your first and last warning, pal.

Robtard
Originally posted by Tzeentch
If only the film had shown that. sad

Hm, on another note. Was Superman ever shown to have X-Ray vision in the film? I genuinely can't remember.


Zod punched Superman into space, lol.

Yes, when he looks through the one-way glass while he's in the brig.

Because Superman willed it.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Tez is not a runner; I will not abide you besmirching his name again. Consider that your first and last warning, pal.

Blah blah blahwink I'm still reeling on him accusing MoS it was his fault for Metro bring destroyed.

Tzeentch
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, when he looks through the one-way glass while he's in the brig.

Because Superman willed it. Ah right, completely forgot that scene.

You've convinced me. mmm

Robtard
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Blah blah blahwink I'm still reeling on him accusing MoS it was his fault for Metro bring destroyed.

Don't worry, I've convinced him to change his mind using logic, reasoning and reasonable logic.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Robtard
Don't worry, I've convinced him to change his mind using logic, reasoning and reasonable logic.

You are an officer and a gentleman good sirsmile

TH3_V01D
Zod is the most impressive comic book movie villian. period

Robtard
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
You are an officer and a gentleman good sirsmile

Don't worry, as KMC's resident MoS scholar, I am here to educate the MoS ignorant.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Killing Zod to save innocents and knowing he just lost his last connection to his birthplace/people isn't heroic? You're letting your deep hatred of a fictional character cloud your judgment. Killing isn't something he typically does and an ultimate hero wouldn't have to do so. He was reckless in the film and idiotic. Crying out when he had to kill also made him look weak.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
Killing isn't something he typically does and an ultimate hero wouldn't have to do so. He was reckless in the film and idiotic. Crying out when he had to kill also made him look weak.

Not typically, but he has when necessary and an ultimate hero would know when killing is necessary; to save the life of an innocent family of four is one of those times. Your illogical hatred of Superman blinds you; stop being blind.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
An ultimate hero would know when killing is necessary; to save the life of an innocent family of four is one of those times. Your illogical hatred of Superman blinds you; stop being blind. No, the ultimate hero would ko the guy but wouldn't ever kill. This new Superman has a lot of flaws. I love it.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, the ultimate hero would ko the guy but wouldn't ever kill.

This new Superman has a lot of flaws. I love it.

Zod already said he would never stop, so MoS aka The Ultimate Hero made the necessary choice; kill one lunatic to save humanity. Saying humanity, that's what ultimate heroes do.

Unrelated to him killing Zod, but no one is perfect; I like that they worked this trait into this Superman too. thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Zod already said he would never stop, so MoS aka The Ultimate Hero made the necessary choice; kill one lunatic to save humanity. Saying humanity, that's what ultimate heroes do.

Unrelated to him killing Zod, but no one is perfect; I like it about this Superman too. thumb up You can banish him or imprison him. Weak Superman was broken by Zod.

Superman isn't the ultimate hero hence the flaws.

Zack Fair
Originally posted by Robtard
Zod already said he would never stop, so MoS aka The Ultimate Hero made the necessary choice; kill one lunatic to save humanity. Saying humanity, that's what ultimate heroes do.

Unrelated to him killing Zod, but no one is perfect; I like it about this Superman too. thumb up Yeah. I like flawed Superman. People complain about Superman being boring because he is so perfect and OP, and yet these same people complain because MoS Superman has human flaws. No matter what they do with him they will hate.

It's kind of sad.

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can banish him or imprison him. Weak Superman was broken by Zod.

Superman isn't the ultimate hero hence the flaws.

Banish Zod where? Which prison would hold the Ultimate Villain Zod?

Not having flaws doesn't make a hero ultimate. MoS is the Ultimate Hero.

Robtard
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yeah. I like flawed Superman. People complain about Superman being boring because he is so perfect and OP, and yet these same people complain because MoS Superman has human flaws. No matter what they do with him they will hate.

It's kind of sad.

Yup, haters gonna hate. "He's too perfect!" then "He's flawed!"

Most sad.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Banish Zod where? Wich prison would hold an Ultimate Villain like Zod?

Not having flaws doesn't make a hero ultimate. MoS is the Ultimate Hero. He was a piss poor villain who was crushed by Jor el and then died to Superman. He was incompetent and pathetic.

Acting as if they can't hold him as a prisoner anywhere is hilarious.


Yes, not having flaws makes you the ultimate hero. This Superman was broken by a piss poor villain and killed and then cried.

laughing out loud

Robtard
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a piss poor villain who was crushed by Jor el and then died to Superman. He was incompetent and pathetic.

Acting as if they can't hold him as a prisoner anywhere is hilarious.


Yes, not having flaws makes you the ultimate hero. This Superman was broken by a piss poor villain and killed and then cried.

laughing out loud

Disagreed and your hatred of everything Superman is blinding you again.

Then answer the question instead of dodging: where could Zod have been imprisoned?

Incorrect again.

marwash22
Originally posted by Based
Really? I thought he was as bland as they come. maybe, but the amount of havoc he wreaked is undeniable.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Robtard
Disagreed and your hatred of everything Superman is blinding you again.

Then answer the question instead of dodging: where could Zod have been imprisoned?

Incorrect again. I explained why and you ignore it due to your obsessive fanboyism. You once proudly claimed you forced your kids to watch this ship.

On earth.



I am correct as usual.

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