Blade vs Iron Fist

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cdtm
Who wins?

Mindset
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deathslash
Danny turns into jelly

Trackz
no one is messing with IF

pym-ftw
Rand wins.

carver9
Originally posted by Mindset
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laughing out loud

CadenceV2
Speed wise the gap is not much at all. Fight can go either way as Blade healing factor can tank most of Rands aver he hits. His own adamantium sword will kill Danny. Danny best hits will surely KO or kill blade though.

cdtm
Originally posted by CadenceV2
Speed wise the gap is not much at all. Fight can go either way as Blade healing factor can tank most of Rands aver he hits. His own adamantium sword will kill Danny. Danny best hits will surely KO or kill blade though.

Would you say he's near Spidey level?

Because, Danny arguable is, looking at his higher end speed feats

Examples include: Slipping between automatic gunfire by inches (NOT keeping ahead of the gunman's aim, but actually darting in and out of a tight row of bullets on other side of him), catching a bullet in his bare hand (Requires more accuracy then deflecting one), and deflecting some 50 armor steel piercing flechette rounds with his finger tips in the time it takes to say "Die, Iron Fist!" without scratching his fingers on the flechette tips or wings.

Basically, imo Danny has feats that beat Shang deflecting a bullet with his bracelet, who himself was considered close to Blade's speed level in that other thread.

Trackz
Their speed is pretty even, dannys striking power is next level though. Considering danny can chi-heal alright himself, the fight is in dannys favor. Blade could get a few, not the majority though.

BruceSkywalker
Rand punches Blades lights out

Supermutant
Blade cuts his head off.

cdtm
Titanium, right?

Iron Fist could block it. And probably destroy it.

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
Titanium, right?

Iron Fist could block it. And probably destroy it. adamantium

cdtm
Is that standard?

Looking at the various Wiki's, he's had a lot of swords, of different sizes and makes, and also includes a silver sword, but no mention of Adamantium.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Blade%27s_sword

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
Is that standard?

Looking at the various Wiki's, he's had a lot of swords, of different sizes and makes, and also includes a silver sword, but no mention of Adamantium. because most wikis are based on the movies. He never stated in the comics what his sword was made of until mi13, where he said it was adamantium.

cdtm
I see..

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure the Iron Fist can withstand adamantium. At least, I'm not aware of it ever needing to.

At a guess, the mystical nature of the Fist combined with the things it has withstood without effect should let it take a hit or two... I mean, weaker things then Adamantium manage to survive attacks from Adamantium weapons.

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
I see..

I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure the Iron Fist can withstand adamantium. At least, I'm not aware of it ever needing to.

At a guess, the mystical nature of the Fist combined with the things it has withstood without effect should let it take a hit or two... I mean, weaker things then Adamantium manage to survive attacks from Adamantium weapons. like what? If danny gets hit, he's definitely going to have to rely on his ability to chi heal.

cdtm
Originally posted by Trackz
like what? If danny gets hit, he's definitely going to have to rely on his ability to chi heal.

Ragnarok, for one. And other weapons made of "secondary adamantium like" metals, that are nowhere near indestructible but still manage to survive clashing with the claws..

And yeah, it goes without saying if Danny gets stabbed, he'll take damage. I'm thinking more if the IF and sword connects.

YFZ 350
Danny.

Supermutant
Originally posted by cdtm
Is that standard?

Looking at the various Wiki's, he's had a lot of swords, of different sizes and makes, and also includes a silver sword, but no mention of Adamantium.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Blade%27s_sword

Blade's adamantium odachi is standard gear for him, and he always has it in recent appearances.

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zopzop
Blade ends him.

cdtm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/Immortal_Weapons_005_012_zps617afd5b.jpg

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I'd like to see Shang Chi try and beat that thing.. The dragon he beat was probably a midget by comparison.

Mindset
Originally posted by zopzop
Blade ends him. Originally posted by Mindset
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zopzop
Originally posted by Mindset
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Blade ftmfw!

JayDaDon
Does blade have even one speed feat that puts him on the level of an Iron fist? I say Danny has the CLEAR speed advantage and blade will get pummeled into goo.

Supermutant
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Does blade have even one speed feat that puts him on the level of an Iron fist? I say Danny has the CLEAR speed advantage and blade will get pummeled into goo.

He dodges multiple gunshots from Deadpool at close range, while coming toward him and knocking him back.

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If you want more just check his respect thread or here

cdtm
While impressive, they're not "bullet time". Looks more like Blade's moving faster then Wade's ability to track (As compared to deflecting, catching, or reacting when the bullets obviously moving directly at you a scan before.)

Basically, it's the difference between reacting to the man, vs reacting to the bullet. Like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/2222853-planetary_jla_terra_occulta_p45_zps4bdfc65e.jpg

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
While impressive, they're not "bullet time". Looks more like Blade's moving faster then Wade's ability to track (As compared to deflecting, catching, or reacting when the bullets obviously moving directly at you a scan before.)

Basically, it's the difference between reacting to the man, vs reacting to the bullet. Like this:



...no it definitely doesn't. you can see the bullets in the air as he weaves between them.

cdtm
Originally posted by Trackz
...no it definitely doesn't. you can see the bullets in the air as he weaves between them.

If Wade already fired the gun in the previous panel, then yeah, it would definitely be bullet time.

But he didn't, so all we have are assumptions. Blade could have been standing stock still, and avoiding the bullet at the last minute, or he could have been on the move between panels..

That kind of thing happens all the time in comics, with guys like Batman, Captain America, Wolverine.. And Iron Fist also, and Spidey.

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
If Wade already fired the gun in the previous panel, then yeah, it would definitely be bullet time.

But he didn't, so all we have are assumptions. Blade could have been standing stock still, and avoiding the bullet at the last minute, or he could have been on the move between panels..

That kind of thing happens all the time in comics, with guys like Batman, Captain America, Wolverine.. And Iron Fist also, and Spidey. there's no assumptions. you literally see the bullets in the air heading for blade, then you see him move out of the way of each individual bullet at is sails past him. there's really no debate here.

cdtm
Originally posted by Trackz
there's no assumptions. you literally see the bullets in the air heading for blade, then you see him move out of the way of each individual bullet at is sails past him. there's really no debate here.

That first scan, the bullets was definitely already dodged. And the next bullet also looks to the side of him, post dodge. Not heading toward him.

Kazenji
Rand.

Trackz
Originally posted by cdtm
That first scan, the bullets was definitely already dodged. And the next bullet also looks to the side of him, post dodge. Not heading toward him. he dodges three bullets that you can see have already been shot at him through the course of the seen. You can see the bullets, and he moves out of the way. This scene is as clear as any. Im not debating this point anymore.

YFZ 350
Good Lord Blade was weaving through those gun shots. Clear as can be if you read the infinite comic.

Supermutant
Originally posted by YFZ 350
Good Lord Blade was weaving through those gun shots. Clear as can be if you read the infinite comic.

thumb up It couldn't be anymore clear, and the way its done in the motion comic is awesome.

CadenceV2
Honestly I place Iron fist over Blade in speed, but its not that big of a gap anymore than say Spider Man over Wolverine.

The gap is not large enough to matter. Blade however is naturally stronger. Danny needs to chi amp his stats to surpass. Blade also has way better healing feats and ability to Danny's.

Skill wise Danny is boss of course, however Blade is top notch a class in swords, firearms, and bladed weaponry in general which he is using here. Sure Danny can catch bullets, but every bullet caught or dodged is a crucial distraction.

Iron Fist has the best single f**k you attack. Blade however can easily end Danny with his Adamantium sword.

Like I said, a good fight no matter how you look at it.

JayDaDon
Those chi techniques are too much. I feel bad for any streetleveller-low meta standing in front of that karate chop danny used to cut off that giant's leg.

cdtm
Originally posted by Trackz
he dodges three bullets that you can see have already been shot at him through the course of the seen. You can see the bullets, and he moves out of the way. This scene is as clear as any. Im not debating this point anymore.

Take it easy, man. No one's calling you a liar.

I'll check them on my laptop, instead of this Samsung mini phone.

Mindset
Originally posted by cdtm
Take it easy, man. No one's calling you a liar.

I'll check them on my laptop, instead of this Samsung mini phone. I am.

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