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At their peaks, who wins? Emperor Malgus is apart of the Dark Council as well.

I'm siding with the Dread Masters despite possibly getting solo'ed from Syo Bakarn. Malgus is kind of a weird inclusion here but still the Masters.

Dread Masters are stronger individuals. They've supreme combat feats. I think Nox, Marr, Jadus, Malgus would give them a good fight along with other members though.

Dread Masters are a very organized team that multiplies their powers by co-fighting where DC consists of random individuals. They have combat rituals which Im not sure if the DC can survive. Their mind games would cause a lot of trouble too.

The Dread Masters take this.

Lesse, the peak would have Nox, Jadus, Marr, Baras...

Plus just in total numbers, it's 13 (including Malgus) vs 6.

So I'd go the council. Even with some weaker members, they should be fine.

In a straight fight I'd go with the Council. But I dunno what would happen if they unleashed their fear powers. Nox, Malgus and a few others might resist but the rest?

Every in game feat from a solo Dreadmaster was using the other masters power.

They seem to use a dark variant of battle meld which allows them to draw on one another as much as possible, they are a single entity not a team of individuals.

Thus should the Dark Council take them on they won't be faced with what the strike team had to do on Oricon. It'd be easier.

We've seen that powerful Sith (and by powerful I mean a lord, lol) can shield each other from mind games, and we've seen that the entirety of the Dread Masters couldn't drive strong minded individuals.

Any lackies that would be turned can be protected by Nox.

Really I think the council would dominate this, though with mild effort,

Originally posted by Nephthys
In a straight fight I'd go with the Council. But I dunno what would happen if they unleashed their fear powers. Nox, Malgus and a few others might resist but the rest?

Considering how they were captured by a Jedi supported by elite commandos, I think a strong force user can shield the rest.


So Nox, Malgus, Jadus, etc. should prevent the rest from being affected, even if individually they'd be overwhelmed.

Malgus, Marr, Jadus, Nox alone would put up a good fight, throw in Ravage, Mortis, ect. who are all likely to be formidable and the Dread Masters die.

Vowrawn or Ravage solos.

Dang, I thought the Dread Masters were above Dark council.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Dang, I thought the Dread Masters were above Dark council.

Why? They are stated to be second only to the Emperor multiple times. If they were stronger I'd imagine they'd stroll into the Council chambers and wtf pwn them.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Dang, I thought the Dread Masters were above Dark council.

They are, both as individuals and as a group.

The Dread Masters have the hype on being able to master things that the DC didn't, such as the Phobis device and using it to own entire fleets.

Originally posted by The Merchant
The Dread Masters have the hype on being able to master things that the DC didn't, such as the Phobis device and using it to own entire fleets.


Sure, but they're outnumbered 2:1, and facing some very powerful individuals, who have some unique talents of their own.



I would say individually they're above most Dark Council members, but some DC members are DM level, and even the ones who are weaker are often still dangerous enough in a fight to matter a lot.

Dread Masters have shown the ability to Fold Space and multiply themselves through solid illusions and a crap ton more. I don't see how DC can match the kind of sorcery that the DMs employ, even Nox.

They are all complete master sorcerers and sorceresses, second only to the Emperor himself, with centuries of knowledge and practice.

It seems to be implied that they exist within the Emperor's personal sphere of power and don't concede to the Dark Council's chain of command.

They were taken out by one Jedi and a bunch of special forces soldiers, though. They aren't comparable to the Emperor.

The Emperor was also taken out by one Jedi.

Malgus solos.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The Emperor was also taken out by one Jedi.
But they don't compare in the slightest. One's the Order's best from 18, with a weakened Emperor. The other's a random Jedi Knight who goes in with a bunch of troops and leaves with all Dread Masters.

Massive amounts of assumption could be made on how he managed to take them down, I seriously don't believe it was by conventional means whatsoever.

A random Jedi Knight? He's the Mace ripoff of the SWTOR era.

Kaedan's pretty badass dude.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Massive amounts of assumption could be made on how he managed to take them down, I seriously don't believe it was by conventional means whatsoever.
The Dread Masters have only been known for crazy battle meditation nothing else. It's completely an assumption that somehow one Jedi unconventionally took down not one, but six sith lords, on their own ship. Maybe they just aren't worth the hype they're given in the Empire. Maybe.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
A random Jedi Knight? He's the Mace ripoff of the SWTOR era.
Eh. The era's full of powerhouses, and he's not even among the top four of the Order.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The Dread Masters have only been known for crazy battle meditation nothing else. It's completely an assumption that somehow one Jedi unconventionally took down not one, but six sith lords, on their own ship. Maybe they just aren't worth the hype they're given in the Empire. Maybe.

If you think all they have is a powerful Battle Meditation technique you need to play the operations again and better yet, read their codex entries.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If you think all they have is a powerful Battle Meditation technique you need to play the operations again and better yet, read their codex entries.
Didn't say that was all they had. It is what they have as a collective unit as their most powerful technique, and it wasn't enough to take down one Jedi, who is not an equal to an entire Dark Council.