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2014 Ultimate Agents, Assassins and Operators Championship

Competitors have been selected based on characters that are (somewhat) realistic.

The format is seeded Single Elimination.

Each round, the winner from each bracket is selected based on:

1. H2H/Unarmed Fight
2. Pistol Shootout (Standard USP 9mm)
3. Intelligence / Cunning
4. Capabilities (Well rounded knowledge and skills - excluding firearms and fighting)
5. X Factor - Unknown mission - who would you rather send?

Each candidate wins a point for each category. Candidate with 3 or more out of the 5 points wins.

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**** Please cast your votes for Round 1. ****

Post who you think will win in each bracket (A-H).

You can include the details (who wins which category).

Posts which do not include the winners of ALL brackets will not be counted.

To keep this thread clean, please just make your vote and keep the debate to the minimum.



Votes will be tallied in 48 hours, or when at least 10 votes have been received.

Round 1 is quite obvious to me so I won't be including details for most.


Jason Bourne
Big Daddy (Kickass)

Bob Lee Swagger
Leon

Agent 47
Casey Ryback (Under Seige)

Ethan Hunt
Anton Chigurh

James Bond (Brosnan)
Todd (Soldier)

Bryan Mills
Jacky Chan (Police Story)

1. H2H/Unarmed Fight //// Jacky Chan
2. Pistol Shootout (Standard USP 9mm) //// Bryan Mills
3. Intelligence / Cunning ////Undecided
4. Capabilities (Well rounded knowledge and skills - excluding firearms and fighting) //// Bryan Mills
5. X Factor - Unknown mission - who would you rather send? //// Bryan Mills

James Bond (Craig)
John Connor

Jack Bauer
Vincent (Collateral)

FYI...


Jason Bourne (Bourne Trilogy)
Big Daddy (Nicholas Cage / Kickass)

Bob Lee Swagger (Mark Wahlberg / Shooter)
Leon (Jean Reno / Leon the Professional)

Agent 47 (Hitman / Computer game adaptation)
Casey Ryback (Steven Segal / Under Seige)

Ethan Hunt (Tom Cruise / Mission Impossible)
Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem / No Country for Old Men)

James Bond (Brosnan)
Todd (Kurt Russel / Soldier)

Bryan Mills (Liam Neeson / Taken)
Jacky Chan (Police Story)


James Bond (Craig)
John Connor (Christian Bale / Terminator Salvation)

Jack Bauer (24 TV show / TV Movie)
Vincent (Tom Cruise / Collateral)

In general


First round:
Bourne vs BD: Bourne
Swagger vs Leon: Swagger
47 vs Ryback: 47
Hunt vs Chigurh: Hunt
Bond vs Todd: Todd
Mills vs Chan: Chan
Bond vs Connor: Bond
Bauer vs Vincent: Bauer


Second Round:
Bourne vs Swagger: Bourne
47 vs Hunt: 47
Todd vs Chan: Todd
Bauer vs Bond: Bauer

3rd round:
47 vs Bourne: 47
Todd vs Bauer: Todd

Final Round:
47 vs Todd: TBD; near stalemate

Originally posted by Lestov16
In general


First round:
Bourne vs BD: Bourne
Swagger vs Leon: Swagger
47 vs Ryback: 47
Hunt vs Chigurh: Hunt
Bond vs Todd: Todd
Mills vs Chan: Chan
Bond vs Connor: Bond
Bauer vs Vincent: Bauer


One or two interesting picks.

I may need to watch Soldier again.

Originally posted by Lestov16

Second Round:

3rd round:

Final Round:


These will be done with a new vote, once round 1 is decided.

No Frank Martin?

I would have added Roy Miller and Charlie Wax. Those dudes were unstoppable killing machines.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No Frank Martin?

This list is for more "realistic" characters. Hence why someone like Wesley Gibson wasn't included either - even though he probably wouldn't win.


And I need 10 votes people.

Jason Bourne

Bob Lee Swagger

Agent 47

Ethan Hunt

Todd

Bryan Mills

John Connor

Vincent

Bauer would destroy Vincent.

Originally posted by Placidity
2014 Ultimate Agents, Assassins and Operators Championship

Competitors have been selected based on characters that are (somewhat) realistic.

The format is seeded Single Elimination.

Each round, the winner from each bracket is selected based on:

1. H2H/Unarmed Fight
2. Pistol Shootout (Standard USP 9mm)
3. Intelligence / Cunning
4. Capabilities (Well rounded knowledge and skills - excluding firearms and fighting)
5. X Factor - Unknown mission - who would you rather send?

Each candidate wins a point for each category. Candidate with 3 or more out of the 5 points wins.

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............................................................................................



**** Please cast your votes for Round 1. ****

Post who you think will win in each bracket (A-H).

You can include the details (who wins which category).

Posts which do not include the winners of ALL brackets will not be counted.

To keep this thread clean, please just make your vote and keep the debate to the minimum.



Votes will be tallied in 48 hours, or when at least 10 votes have been received.





A: Bourne
B: Swagger
C: Ryback
D: Hunt
E: Todd
F: Mills
G: Bond
H: Vincent

Thanks for the votes.

10 votes was clearly too optimistic. Changed to 5. That is, one more.

The quick version

Jason Bourne
Leon
Casey Ryback
Ethan Hunt
Todd
Bryan Mills
James Bond
Jack Bauer

Originally posted by Placidity
Thanks for the votes.

10 votes was clearly too optimistic. Changed to 5. That is, one more.

thread was definitely deserving of 10 votes. Seems you're getting the Edge of Tomorrow BO treatment

Also I'm going to change my vote to Mills instead of Chan.

To give a detailed summary of my selections:

1. H2H/Unarmed Fight
2. Pistol Shootout (Standard USP 9mm)
3. Intelligence / Cunning
4. Capabilities (Well rounded knowledge and skills - excluding firearms and fighting)
5. X Factor - Unknown mission - who would you rather send?

Bourne vs Big Daddy
1. H2H- Bourne has consistently outmatched the US government's deadliest assassins in H2H combat, being a government killing machine himself. Big Daddy is just a very highly trained cop who has only matched fists with mob goons.
2, Gunfight- Again, Bourne's government training has given him dead on accuracy, allowing him to shoot people square in the chest while falling several stories. Big Daddy has only faced mob goons
3. Intelligence- Bourne evaded and outsmarted the CIA's most pervasive black ops programs 3 times. Big Daddy got caught by the mob.
4. Same as intelligence; to add to that Bourne is practically omnicompetent, and can utilize prep time and improvise on the fly. Big Daddy clearly couldn't.
5. Same as 3 and 4

Bobby Lee Swagger vs Leone Montana
1. H2H- Swagger is a trained Force Recon Marine and CIA PMOO and even with a bullet wound was easily manhandling cops and FBI agents. Leon had no H2H feats.
2. Gunfight- Swagger's accuracy is dead on, amongst the best on the planet. His combat-honed reflexes would undoubtedly allow him to overcome Leon's comparably-inadequate mob training.
3. Intelligence- Swagger is a master strategist and tactician, managing to exonerate himself while evading a US govt. manhunt and killing those responsible. Leon is illiterate.
4. Capabilities- again, ties back to 4. Swagger's marine training taught him emergency first aid, IED creation, escape and evasion, strategic battle analysis, etc. Had Matilda come to Swagger, Stansfield would have probably been killed far more expediently and furtively.
5. Mission- Best Force Recon Marine on the planet who outfought over 100 soldiers and an attack helicopter, escaped, and killed the CIA boss who sent them on the mission vs mob hitman who at his best clears buildings of mob goons. Not hard to choose who I'd select for my mission.

Agent 47 vs Casey Ryback
1. H2H- Casey Ryback is no slouch in H2H, but Agent 47 has had far more considerable training, and taken on far deadlier opponents, namely another assassin trained by the Organization who tried to kill him at the end of the film. 47 effortlessly ripped off his ear, snapped his arm, and stomped on his head and broke his neck, not to mention engaged in brief H2H with an Organization assassin during a 4 way swordfight that outdoes anything Casey has done bladewise.
2. Gunfight- While again, Casey is no slouch, 47 again has far more training and is far more accurate, getting killshots from over 4 km easily. He also mowed through Russian SWAT like nothing while holding a hostage and easily cleared entire rooms of assailants in minutes.
3. Intelligence- while Casey had a few moments of intellect with improvised bombs and the like, 47 consistently showed he is a genius and masterfully utilizes prep to anticipate any situation, and like Swagger and Bourne, took revenge against a government conspiracy (Russian in this case, but far more vast than Supremacy) while evading a massive manhunt. To repeat ad naseum, his training far outmatches anything Casey's ever done or competed against.
4. Capabilities- 47's since-childhood training has made him the best assassin on the planet. He outmaneuvered the entire Russian government and killed their president twice. Casey may be good taking on merc groups, but he has never faced a situation on the level 47 has.
5. Same as 4.

Ethan Hunt vs Anton Chigurh
1. H2H- Hunt has consistently shown excellent H2H feats, superhuman wire-fu levels in MI2, quickly fighting his way out of captivity and fighting Davian while a bomb was beginning to detonate inside his head, and fighting through prisons and tanking considerable damage while wrestling with the Russian nuclear football at the end of MI4. Anton has no H2H feats besides choking a small-town cop with handcuffs.
2. Gunfight- Ethan has shown considerable firearm proficiency through the MI films whenever he used them. Anton lost the only gunfight he got in, which was against a hick, whereas Ethan was tagging opponents while hanging outside of a speeding car in MI3.
3. Intelligence- Anton is quite intelligent, improvising the explosion to steal medical supplies and tracking Llewlyn and such, but that doesn't nearly compare to Ethan who due to his job is a nigh super-genius. He drew a perfect photograph of a guy after looking at him for a second. He is a polyglot, master tactician, and constantly plans missions on which international security is at stake.
4. Capabilities- While Anton is an excellent hitman, Ethan's MI training has made him the ultimate clandestine agent.
5. Same as 4.

Will give the others momentarily.

Why is everyone voting for Leon over Swagger? The only thing he has on Swagger is pistol skills.

Why didn't you vote Bauer over Vincent?

Because Vincent, IMO, is better.

How? He got killed by a cabbie. Bauer has far better feats.

The cabbie was a fluke. Even the most diehard Bauer fans must realize this.

What has he done that outranks what Bauer has done?

Seems like better people could've been picked for this tourney...

Originally posted by Lestov16
What has he done that outranks what Bauer has done?


W85mbsD_5_U

Bauer killed 13 heavily armed mercs in less than 5 minutes. That club shootout isn't impressive in the least to a guy with a 309>0 kill/death ratio

And what was Bauer armed with?

A submachine gun, pistol, meat cleaver, chef's knife, and samurai sword.

Thank you all. Votes have been finalized.

You can continue discussion here if you want, but Round 2 has begun.

Originally posted by Lestov16
A submachine gun, pistol, meat cleaver, chef's knife, and samurai sword. Vincent had only a pistol.