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Alright, so many keep saying that the HoT is on a much higher level than Mace - perhaps nearing Yoda, which makes me cringe a bit, so i'm curious. Starting in the same place Mace and Sidious fought. Who would win? same scenario from ROTS.

Note: Not a spite thread -_- i don't do those

Sids wins

Sidious kicks his ass and makes him admit TOR is a blatant ripoff of the OT/PT

Sidious wins.

Sidious.

Yeah, Sidious is the dominant figure here, he'll win be it by skill or power. It's not a bad fight, though.

Whoever says it is on drugs. Mace is on the same level as Yoda.

Sidious takes this one solidly.

Originally posted by Arhael
Whoever says it is on drugs. Mace is on the same level as Yoda.

Second only to the lil green guy himself :P

But it could be argued that the HoT is more powerful than any Jedi from past generations. which is quote and an obvious hyperbole. but still. I'm surprised no one is backing the HoT.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
but still. I'm surprised no one is backing the HoT.
LeGenD has been pretty inactive lately.

No one's going to back up the HoT against the greatest sith swordsman we've yet seen. He definitely puts up a good fight, IMO.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
LeGenD has been pretty inactive lately.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
No one's going to back up the HoT against the greatest sith swordsman we've yet seen. He definitely puts up a good fight, IMO.

What about thy knights that hath been dubbed, Sirs. Nephthys and Freshestslice? will they not come to the defense of this Character!?

lol joking aside, were are our resident SWTOR experts? afraid to debate against Sidious's "Unlimited POWAH"?
Jk just curious as to where they stand in this match up.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
What about thy knights that hath been dubbed, Sirs. Nephthys and Freshestslice? will they not come to the defense of this Character!?

Nope.

Sidious.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
What about thy knights that hath been dubbed, Sirs. Nephthys and Freshestslice? will they not come to the defense of this Character!?.

They won't. They know Sidious is smarter, stronger, faster, better, more popular and important than any character they like. Cowards, the lot of them.

But I don't like the HoT, and I do like Sidious.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
What about thy knights that hath been dubbed, Sirs. Nephthys and Freshestslice? will they not come to the defense of this Character!?

lol joking aside, were are our resident SWTOR experts? afraid to debate against Sidious's "Unlimited POWAH"?
Jk just curious as to where they stand in this match up.

Until the Hero has more developed abilities I wouldn't be able to argue in her favor here.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Second only to the lil green guy himself :P

But it could be argued that the HoT is more powerful than any Jedi from past generations. which is quote and an obvious hyperbole. but still. I'm surprised no one is backing the HoT.
Not sabers wise.

"In Attack of the Clones, I had to give them levels," he says. "Sidious is a level nine . On this film, Obi is eight - he's moved up - Anakin is a nine; Mace is a nine, Yoda is a nine. They're up with Sidious". - The making of RotS.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
They won't. They know Sidious is smarter, stronger, faster, better, more popular and important than any character they like. Cowards, the lot of them.

Originally posted by Arhael
Not sabers wise.

"In Attack of the Clones, I had to give them levels," he says. "Sidious is a level nine . On this film, Obi is eight - he's moved up - Anakin is a nine; Mace is a nine, Yoda is a nine. They're up with Sidious". - The making of RotS.

Yeah, seems like we have a Dooku/Revan situation with Mace and the HoT.

Dooku and Mace seem to be considered > Revan and HoT in sabers

Though maybe this is attributed to the fact that Mace has mastered Vaapad and the HoT has no knowledge of it.

and

Revan and HoT are apparently > Dooku and Mace in Force Powers.

Kinda weird imo.

Dooku>Hero in sabers, but Hero>Dooku in a force battle?

Yeah, I don't think the Hero is stronger in Force powers.

Stronger in the Force, maybe, but definitely not in Force powers.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Yeah, seems like we have a Dooku/Revan situation with Mace and the HoT.

Dooku and Mace seem to be considered > Revan and HoT in sabers

Though maybe this is attributed to the fact that Mace has mastered Vaapad and the HoT has no knowledge of it.

and

Revan and HoT are apparently > Dooku and Mace in Force Powers.

Kinda weird imo.

They're considered better in sabers because they have more information about their lightsaber skills.

Revan and the Hero are considered superior in the Force because they appear to be more powerful than those two. In terms of defense at least.

Originally posted by Nephthys
They're considered better in sabers because they have more information about their lightsaber skills.

Revan and the Hero are considered superior in the Force because they appear to be more powerful than those two. In terms of defense at least.



KotOR and TOR characters are largely unknown since many of their feats are gameplay feats rather than story feats. Being some of the greatest Jedi of their era, I'd imagine they would be at least comparable to PT heavy weights.

With that being said, I think HoT could put up a decent fight against Sidious, but Sidious would ultimately win.

Is anyone saying they're not?

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Is anyone saying they're not?

Not sure why you felt that was provocative.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Not sure why you felt that was provocative.

Not sure what you mean.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Not sure what you mean.

Not sure why you felt you had to point that out.

Not sure what you're trying to gain.

Not sure why you think I'm trying to gain something.

You do.

because we are one. http://r26.imgfast.net/users/2613/36/14/96/smiles/3388927884.gif

Indeed, my inferior intellect.