Goku, Luffy, Kang, Naruto, Usagi & Ichigo vs The Justice League

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TedKordJRBOSS
Rules:
1. Win via K.O.
2. Battle takes place in the hidden leaf village.
3. Kang starts in the Avatar State.
4. Kang can master all the elements.
5. Goku starts in Super Saiyan 4.
6. Naruto is in Nine Tails Beast Mode.
7. Every other Anime/Manga is at their Peak

Goku
Luffy
Kang
Naruto
Usagi Tsukino
Ichigo Kurosaki

VS

Wonder Woman
Booster Gold
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Hawkman
Black Canary

BloodRain
WW>

TedKordJRBOSS
Goku = WW

yungz22
Super man and wonder woman along with green lantern are already too much for the other team their feats are too great

BloodRain
Didn't see Goku on the list.


WW>

She can go dive into combat against Supes.

pym-ftw
Kang?

Do you mean Aang from avatar.

Q99
Goku's the only one that matters on his side. WW and GL win it.

SSJGGogeta
Goku. Solo's.

Peace.

rock

SSJGGogeta
But seriously, Goku blows up the galaxy they're in, while holding a ki-force field up around his team.

Anime wins.

NemeBro
Usagi easily kills Goku and then the rest of her team and the JL.

SSJGGogeta
But seriously, Goku blows up the galaxy they're in, while holding a ki-force field up around his team.

Anime wins.

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SSJGGogeta
If Usagi was dumb enough to try attacking Goku, he'd just throw her out of the ki-force field, and do the same thing.

If she didn't just try and seduce him, that is.

NemeBro
She'd just punch him with a galaxy busting punch at many billion times faster than the speed of light. She'd solo DBZ my son.

pym-ftw
I was never into Sailor Moon but i hear people say its a powerful universe, what are some of the best >FEATS<? Or it just fan wanked like DBZ?

Vic&ChanceTP
Originally posted by yungz22
Super man and wonder woman along with green lantern are already too much for the other team their feats are too great
Superman is not there

Vic&ChanceTP
This is a great battle.

Wonder Woman, Booster & GL will but Kang will force them to fight on the ground which in turn gives Goku the advantage as he even said that he is better on the ground. So every thing is even from there on so I am stuck.

Trocity
Uhhh... The anime team absolutely shits on this JL team.

Q99
Originally posted by Vic&ChanceTP
This is a great battle.

Wonder Woman, Booster & GL will but Kang will force them to fight on the ground which in turn gives Goku the advantage as he even said that he is better on the ground. So every thing is even from there on so I am stuck.


How willl Aang do anything? Most of the JLA can operate in space.




Not really, the top JLAers are seriously powerful. WW's bracers can block attacks of any power, they're literally never been breached.


Especially as the Op says everyone is at their peak... meaning, this shouldn't even be one of their normal versions, but instead their most powerful ones, like cosmic reality-warping Trinity Wonder Woman.

Trocity
Peak Anime Characters > Peak Superheroes

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
She'd just punch him with a galaxy busting punch at many billion times faster than the speed of light. She'd solo DBZ my son.

What the hell are you smoking?

1. Sailor moon in general has feats nowhere near that level.

2. Even if Usagi did, Goku would still shout away the multiverse they're in with a ki bubble up. The punch wouldn't affect him, and he'd blitz her.

3. So she still loses either way.

StealthRanger
Usagi solos her own team and the opposing team

SSJGGogeta
*sigh*

Goku does so while literally raping her against her will.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by pym-ftw
I was never into Sailor Moon but i hear people say its a powerful universe, what are some of the best >FEATS<? Or it just fan wanked like DBZ?

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by pym-ftw


http://deadliestfictionalwarrior.wikispaces.com/Sailor+Moon+(Character)

This is actually pretty accurate.

Basically, she has around small galaxy level destruction, she has around continent-planet level durability, and her best feature, her MFTL speed. She flew from her solar system to the center of the galaxy in a few seconds.

Otherwise though, yeah, she's pretty hard-core wanked by her fans. She's basically a glass cannon.

Anyway though, Goku still wins. As I will be happy to argue on the right thread.

pym-ftw
How is destroying a cauldron = to a galaxy buster?

Q99
Originally posted by Trocity
Peak Anime Characters > Peak Superheroes


Not.... really. Medium doesn't determine power.


Heck, come to think of it, this should be the pre-crisis versions of some of the JLA, shouldn't it?



Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
*sigh*

Goku does so while literally raping her against her will.

Aaaand you just have to go with the sexist rape comments. Not cool at all, SSJGGogeta.

Q99
Peak of each-

Trinity WW's basically WW raised to abstract level, she and the other two Trinity members defeated a universe-level reality warper with their reality powers.

Pre-Crisis WW and GL could easily do things like throw stars around physically.

If we allow GL when different names were used, Parallax Hal and Ion Kyle both were able to do things like freeze and alter time, overpower the Wrath of God (the Spectre), etc..


So, tell me when Goku can deal with universe level reality warping and time freezing, ok?

NemeBro
Reread the OP Q. It's peak for anime/manga only.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What the hell are you smoking?

1. Sailor moon in general has feats nowhere near that level.

2. Even if Usagi did, Goku would still shout away the multiverse they're in with a ki bubble up. The punch wouldn't affect him, and he'd blitz her.

3. So she still loses either way. 1. She's so much faster she would kill Goku in less than a nanosecond though.

2. Oh please, if a weakling like Vegeto can punch through it Usagi would obliterate the shield. I mean, she'd really just kill Goku faster than he could process a thought, but it's fun to entertain delusions.

Funny that you had to resort to noncanon showings though.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
Reread the OP Q. It's peak for anime/manga only.

1. She's so much faster she would kill Goku in less than a nanosecond though.

2. Oh please, if a weakling like Vegeto can punch through it Usagi would obliterate the shield. I mean, she'd really just kill Goku faster than he could process a thought, but it's fun to entertain delusions.

Funny that you had to resort to noncanon showings though.

1. Need I have this speed debate with you again? You'd just resort to simply going in denial again, and be forced to withdraw.

2. lol @ "A weakling like Vegetto". Buuhan has reality/multiverse level+ showings. If he can accomplish that with a simple kiai, then his barrier is vastly more powerful. If anything, that's an omniverse level strength feat for Vegetto. This literally makes anything Sailor Moon is capable of seem like a drop of water in all the oceans on Earth. What's better? Destroying part of a galaxy, or having multiverse+ potency in a single punch?

Also, the anime was made by Akira Toriyama, making it as cannon as the manga. Again, as I said before, there are two kinds of cannon for DBZ. Anime, and Manga. Either way though, both sources of cannon have Goku at much higher than Sailor Moon. Kid Buu could destroy entire galaxies at once in the manga. He was nothing compared to Super Buu, who was nothing compared to Buutenks, who was nothing compared to Buuhan, who was nothing compared to Base Vegetto, who was 50 times weaker than Super Vegetto, who is weaker than SSJG Goku. You see my point here? Scaling alone, that's AT THE BARE MINIMUM at least multi-galaxy to universe level for SSJG Goku. Which makes sense. Bills can bust universal quadrants just by feeling angry.

Again though, I will be happy to debate this. IN THE RIGHT FORUM. thumb up

NemeBro
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
1. Need I have this speed debate with you again? You'd just resort to simply going in denial again, and be forced to withdraw. Figured you'd puss out.

Usagi wins. thumb up

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by NemeBro
Figured you'd puss out.

Usagi wins. thumb up

Pfft, you just scared, bee-otch.

Goku wins. thumb up

BloodRain
Ahh didn't recognize her Japanese name. Yeah..

Moon > WW > Goku > thread.



Oh and again, dimensions =/= durability.

Q99
Sailor Moon does have self-resurrection even if she dies, btw.


Originally posted by NemeBro
Reread the OP Q. It's peak for anime/manga only.

It doesn't really say what version of the comic ones are.


Even if we discount short-term ones like the Trinity cosmic form or the two times she was a goddess, that still leaves Pre-Crisis versions, and Pre-Crisis is absurd.

Bentley
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Also, the anime was made by Akira Toriyama, making it as cannon as the manga.


Nope.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by BloodRain
Ahh didn't recognize her Japanese name. Yeah..

Moon > WW > Goku > thread.



Oh and again, dimensions =/= durability.

*sigh*

"All of creation" = Multiple "realities" = Multiverse

We don't know the durability of the universe itself, scientifically. But if someone can destroy it, they are universe level. No matter how much you nit-pick feats and deny them. Clearly it's durability is higher than Sailor Moon can manage to destroy.

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SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Bentley
Nope.

Read the rest of the post.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by pym-ftw
How is destroying a cauldron = to a galaxy buster?

Luffygear4
luffy vs booster gold could be cool forreal...

BloodRain
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
*sigh*

"All of creation" = Multiple "realities" = Multiverse

We don't know the durability of the universe itself, scientifically. But if someone can destroy it, they are universe level. No matter how much you nit-pick feats and deny them. Clearly it's durability is higher than Sailor Moon can manage to destroy.

thumb up No, the fabric of reality itself does not have any durability. This is why I could tell you about building or street level characters that can create tears in reality, just as Buu did. The only difference is the verse itself. In the DB non-canon verse, a sizable rip in reality can make realities clash. While in other verses it may not have the same effects.

Either way its not a DC force that Buu possess, but the DC chain effect from the scream. So sure, the scream itself has the ability to create a tear in reality.

So what exactly will you do with that besides a suicide move? (assuming the opponent doesn't just kill him first)

yungz22
how is goku universe level again?

BloodRain
Originally posted by yungz22
how is goku universe level again?
In the anime, after being trounced, Buuhan lets out a scream that begins to mess reality around them. Dende announces that if this keeps up different realities will crash through the rips and into ours.

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"


Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.

Zack Fair
What the hell is Black Canary doing in that lineup?

Specify Green Lantern?

ScreamPaste
Wrong forum.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by BloodRain
In the anime, after being trounced, Buuhan lets out a scream that begins to mess reality around them. Dende announces that if this keeps up different realities will crash through the rips and into ours.

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"


Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.

Again, this has nothing to do with special abilities.

Dende said it was, "the same" as when he broke through dimensions in the ROSAT. Gotenks did the same thing. This means that ANY of the Saiyan's can replicate this attack, considering it is a SIMPLE KIAI.

BloodRain
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Again, this has nothing to do with special abilities.

Dende said it was, "the same" as when he broke through dimensions in the ROSAT. Gotenks did the same thing. This means that ANY of the Saiyan's can replicate this attack, considering it is a SIMPLE KIAI.
You've misunderstood.


It's not that it's a special ability like Buu's candy beam, but it's special as in this chain reaction is a specific effect of the vice shout and nothing more.

Of course if you like you can debate that Goku uses a vice shout to the degree that Buu did in an attempt to crash verses together.. but you'd have these points to deal with;
-It's polar opposite for Goku's character to permanently kill all life, so OoC bloodlust would need to 've specified in the OP.
-A character could, as demonstrated, just hit him in this 5 minute window and break the effect.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by BloodRain
You've misunderstood.


It's not that it's a special ability like Buu's candy beam, but it's special as in this chain reaction is a specific effect of the vice shout and nothing more.

Of course if you like you can debate that Goku uses a vice shout to the degree that Buu did in an attempt to crash verses together.. but you'd have these points to deal with;
-It's polar opposite for Goku's character to permanently kill all life, so OoC bloodlust would need to 've specified in the OP.
-A character could, as demonstrated, just hit him in this 5 minute window and break the effect.

No, you've misunderstood.

That literally has nothing to do with this. All you're doing is suggesting that the cause is different. Either way though, it is still Buu that's destroying the multiverse, as he's the one who produced the shout. Again, no one in any of these series can do anything close to that. All the point you made does, is change Goku from multiverse level, to multiverse reaction level with one shout... WHICH IS STILL MULTIVERSE LEVEL, FOR GOD SAKE.

1. Usually vs. threads don't get this specific. They are in an empty universe here. Just planets, stars and plants, etc. No sentient life. The reason for this is so there is no outside interference. Otherwise, TOAA would show up and erase them all. Either way though, if he has multiverse potency with a shout, then he can easily reproduce the same potency in a punch, making everyone he touches vanish.

2. What character could do that? What you're saying here is that a shout is more powerful than a barrier constructed to keep others out. That's stupid. Anyway, none of the characters here can break through a multiverse+ potency barrier. Sooo, yeah.

yungz22
Originally posted by BloodRain
In the anime, after being trounced, Buuhan lets out a scream that begins to mess reality around them. Dende announces that if this keeps up different realities will crash through the rips and into ours.

Dende: "...causing space around him to warp! - At this rate the walls between dimensions will break down, and other dimensions will rush through!"

Vegito: "If I don't stop him, this universe will be crushed by alternate dimensions!"


Now even though all of this came from a special ability, not raw power, people confuse Buu's actual force for Universal.. even though all Buu is doing is creating a rip that creates a chain reaction leading to other dimensions to flood in. Its a secondary feat like summoning or assistance.

This chain reaction is only applicable to one specific screaming move, not any attacks.
Buuhan doing that wasnt canon right?

And also buuhan was stopped and it doesnt happen instantly it takes a while the league would be able to stop something like that from happening

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by yungz22
Buuhan doing that wasnt canon right?

And also buuhan was stopped and it doesnt happen instantly it takes a while the league would be able to stop something like that from happening

It was. It happened in both versions of the anime. It wasn't filler either, like the days before the cell games.

Refer to above posts.

yungz22
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
It was. It happened in both versions of the anime. It wasn't filler either, like the days before the cell games.

Refer to above posts.

Ooh ok jus askin

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by yungz22
Ooh ok jus askin

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Esomark
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta

Also, the anime was made by Akira Toriyama, making it as cannon as the manga. Again, as I said before, there are two kinds of cannon for DBZ. Anime, and Manga. Either way though, both sources of cannon have Goku at much higher than Sailor Moon. Kid Buu could destroy entire galaxies at once in the manga. He was nothing compared to Super Buu, who was nothing compared to Buutenks, who was nothing compared to Buuhan, who was nothing compared to Base Vegetto, who was 50 times weaker than Super Vegetto, who is weaker than SSJG Goku. You see my point here? Scaling alone, that's AT THE BARE MINIMUM at least multi-galaxy to universe level for SSJG Goku. Which makes sense. Bills can bust universal quadrants just by feeling angry.


The anime was created by Toei, not Toriyama himself. Not to mention, Kai removed a good chunk of the filler to make it more accurate to the manga. What does that tell you? It's just an adaptation and nothing more. Toriyama didn't direct or animate any part of it.

Whis is also stronger than Bills and Bills was only stated to be at best a galaxy buster, according to Dragon Ball Wikia. Hardly a destroyer of "universal quadrants".

BloodRain
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
No, you've misunderstood.

That literally has nothing to do with this. All you're doing is suggesting that the cause is different. Either way though, it is still Buu that's destroying the multiverse, as he's the one who produced the shout. Again, no one in any of these series can do anything close to that. All the point you made does, is change Goku from multiverse level, to multiverse reaction level with one shout... WHICH IS STILL MULTIVERSE LEVEL, FOR GOD SAKE.

1. Usually vs. threads don't get this specific. They are in an empty universe here. Just planets, stars and plants, etc. No sentient life. The reason for this is so there is no outside interference. Otherwise, TOAA would show up and erase them all. Either way though, if he has multiverse potency with a shout, then he can easily reproduce the same potency in a punch, making everyone he touches vanish.

2. What character could do that? What you're saying here is that a shout is more powerful than a barrier constructed to keep others out. That's stupid. Anyway, none of the characters here can break through a multiverse+ potency barrier. Sooo, yeah.

Must be great with such simple paths. Logic this if you will. Buu could only make the rip with the scream. Gotenks could only make the rip with the scream. Buuhan could only make the rip with the scream, which Dende refers back to the ROSAT scream. But for some sreason you read that as "any attack can do this!"? A charayer using a move to bfr can apply that to every attack, nor could anyone else using as move that create this specific aftereffects. As said, dimensions don't have durability, so not matter how you try you couldn't get a DC from its own power. All you have us the effect from a specific move. Enjoy.

1. Don't even need to counter. Just need to sit here and watch you prove Multiversal level punches.

2. Another easy one. Prove the barriers durability with evidence and scans.



Edit: Muliverse punches has to top every DB post ol' Carv's has ever made combined. GG.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by Esomark
The anime was created by Toei, not Toriyama himself. Not to mention, Kai removed a good chunk of the filler to make it more accurate to the manga. What does that tell you? It's just an adaptation and nothing more. Toriyama didn't direct or animate any part of it.

Whis is also stronger than Bills and Bills was only stated to be at best a galaxy buster, according to Dragon Ball Wikia. Hardly a destroyer of "universal quadrants".

The anime was animated by Toei. Akira still deeply involved in the creation, and supervision. Kai ended at the Cell saga, iirc. It sucked anyway, with all the censors it put in.

The word Whiss used was Shihanki. This means "quarter", roughly translated, but in context can be read as "quadrant". Bills can destroy QUADRANTS, and just by getting angry, according to Whiss's statement. That's even less than the action of yelling. Either way though, this is besides the point. Bills isn't allowed to destroy that much at a time anyway. Whiss knocked him out for three years for destroying a solar system that they weren't supposed to.

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