Exar Kun and Darth Thanaton vs Satele Shan and Mace Windu

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WildBantha88
who wins who dies?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Exar Kun vs. Mace Windu should be the deciding factor here. Not too sure about sabers, but i feel Kun has the definitive force edge.

ares834
Team 2.

AncientPower
Team 1, Thanaton(assuming this isn't old man willickers Thanaton) should certainly be a good enough challenge for Shan.

Exar Kun vs Mace Windu, Windu gets the lightsaber edge because of Vaapad. Exar Kun is very much the type of duelist Windu wants to face, full of anger, taunts and the like..

However in the Force Windu is out-classed utterly. He can deal with Kun's more run of the mill abilities but once Sorcery gets popped out, he's in deep s**t.

carthage
Team 2 because Thanaton sucks

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Nah, thanaton can hold back satele.

carthage
Kun still cant defeat Windu, he is more skilled, faster, and just as strong-and Kuns blasts can be dodged by him. Satele has already fought evenly with Baras who is superior to Thanaton, she can absorb his lightning with tutaminus and she can do major damage to him with TK. Kun can defeat Satele with difficulty, but Windu is superior to either Sith. If it were Malgus or Krayt the Sith would win

Sinious
Originally posted by AncientPower
Team 1, Thanaton(assuming this isn't old man willickers Thanaton) should certainly be a good enough challenge for Shan.

Exar Kun vs Mace Windu, Windu gets the lightsaber edge because of Vaapad. Exar Kun is very much the type of duelist Windu wants to face, full of anger, taunts and the like..

However in the Force Windu is out-classed utterly. He can deal with Kun's more run of the mill abilities but once Sorcery gets popped out, he's in deep s**t.

Agreed and Kun is a great duelist himself so he wouldn't be that much in danger while in close ranged combat. Also Thanaton would probably be more useful with his aoe and cause some damage/distraction to both Windu and Satele even if he dies before Satele.

I think team 1 wins this.

NewGuy01
Exar wouldn't be in that much danger? Sidious was. no expression

carthage
Due to a monumental amp.

NewGuy01
And he wouldn't have said amp here? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Sinious
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Exar wouldn't be in that much danger? Sidious was. no expression

Oh Windu gets his mega vaapad? That would change everything and I meant that even though Kun is a force beast, he would perform well in close range combat too.

carthage
Originally posted by NewGuy01
And he wouldn't have said amp here? roll eyes (sarcastic)

He never had it with Bulq, Ventress, or Maul and there is no proof it works against groups

NewGuy01
The whole Vaapad thing was overrated from the start. Regardless, there's nothing in the OP stating Mace is disallowed from using his lightsaber style. laughing out loud

AncientPower
Originally posted by carthage
Kun still cant defeat Windu, he is more skilled, faster, and just as strong-and Kuns blasts can be dodged by him. Satele has already fought evenly with Baras who is superior to Thanaton, she can absorb his lightning with tutaminus and she can do major damage to him with TK. Kun can defeat Satele with difficulty, but Windu is superior to either Sith. If it were Malgus or Krayt the Sith would win
If you're stating that all Kun can throw at Windu is a Force Blast I'd re-read the Tales of the Jedi, I, Jedi & Jedi Academy Trilogy.

His weakened essence which is stated to be a fraction of his full power, could pull off top-tier abilities on his own and dominate a powerful Jedi Academy.

carthage
His incarnation in JA was apart of the Yavin nexus, all of Kuns force feats occur due to an amp from Yavin and drawing on Lukes students. His feats as a ghost do not apply here

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by AncientPower
His weakened essence which is stated to be a fraction of his full power

Quote prease.

carthage
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The whole Vaapad thing was overrated from the start. Regardless, there's nothing in the OP stating Mace is disallowed from using his lightsaber style. laughing out loud

If it is Kun and Thanaton die before they can react

Emperordmb
Originally posted by carthage
If it is Kun and Thanaton die before they can react
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The Merchant
Team 2 wins.

carthage
Originally posted by Emperordmb
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That was if Windu had Palpatines amp. To be fair any of the fighters here would kill Darth Bane

AncientPower
Originally posted by carthage
His incarnation in JA was apart of the Yavin nexus, all of Kuns force feats occur due to an amp from Yavin and drawing on Lukes students. His feats as a ghost do not apply here

Quote? because it is repeatedly stated that not only was he forced to slumber but that Exar Kun lacks any energy reserves and needed to draw off the negative emotions of others to achieve his goals:

Exar Kun himself possessed a great many other dark powers that he was unable to harness without the energy he needed to fuel his disembodied will.
--Taken from the Jedi Academy Sourcebook

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Quote prease.

It is stated by Vodo-Siosk Baas to Luke himself, I will look for the quote now.

appletonia
Team 1 solidly.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by carthage
That was if Windu had Palpatines amp. To be fair any of the fighters here would kill Darth Bane Before they can react though? By that implication you are saying Exar Kun and Darth Thanaton are on Agen Kolar level.. Even Kit Fisto and Savage Opress were able to react

Emperordmb
Originally posted by WildBantha88
Before they can react though? By that implication you are saying Exar Kun and Darth Thanaton are on Agen Kolar level.. Even Kit Fisto and Savage Opress were able to react
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carthage
That would have to do with speed and to be perfectly honest there is no real distinction between their speed.

Yeah Kun and Thanaton have superior force powers to Kolar, and Kun is a superior duelist to Kolar but they're on the same speed tier

Based
Originally posted by carthage
Team 2 because Thanaton sucks

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