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Who wins ?

Putting Edge of Tomorrow on my 'to watch' list I'll get back to you in a few weeks.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Putting Edge of Tomorrow on my 'to watch' list I'll get back to you in a few weeks. He shreds Link. The diehard Zelda fans are all too scared to post.

mmm This might actually be semi-interesting... depending on the conditions. uhuh

Originally posted by Sacred 117
mmm This might actually be semi-interesting... depending on the conditions. uhuh Wake the other Zelda whores and tell me to face me in combat. Now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wake the other Zelda whores and tell me to face me in combat. Now.

I'll need the conditions of battle first. (Seriously, there's actually something to consider here)

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'll need the conditions of battle first. (Seriously, there's actually something to consider here) Open fields of Hyrule. Bill is there to put a stop to the mutable evil for all time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Open fields of Hyrule. Bill is there to put a stop to the mutable evil for all time.

Then why isn't he fighting Ganondorf?

What I'm really asking about is whether or not his mortal reset applies, or if it's just one and done.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Then why isn't he fighting Ganondorf?

What I'm really asking about is whether or not his mortal reset applies, or if it's just one and done. One and done. I have other plans for Dorf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One and done.

And like that, you've lost me.



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Originally posted by Sacred 117
And like that, you've lost me.



http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/29/2f/f8/292ff8834b19028ebe5af2333beb9f6c.jpg If it wasn't one and done then Link wouldn't have 1/98th of a chance here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it wasn't one and done then Link wouldn't have 1/98th of a chance here.

So, what you're basically trying to say is that the thread's f**ked either way?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
So, what you're basically trying to say is that the thread's f**ked either way? Riddle me this. Who wins iyo ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Riddle me this. Who wins iyo ?

In this case, Link. Cage was heavily reliant on his ability to start over and try again, whereas Link can figure out a situation almost instantly. On top of that, recall there was a situation he had to compromise on because he exhausted all of his options to no avail. This could very well be one of those, for all we know.

On a semi-related note, I was pleasantly surprised by the movie. I loved it, in fact. I'm glad to say it wasn't just another "Tom Cruise needs a job" endeavor.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
In this case, Link. Cage was heavily reliant on his ability to start over and try again, whereas Link can figure out a situation almost instantly. On top of that, recall there was a situation he had to compromise on because he exhausted all of his options to no avail. This could very well be one of those, for all we know.

On a semi-related note, I was pleasantly surprised by the movie. I loved it, in fact. I'm glad to say it wasn't just another "Tom Cruise needs a job" endeavor. What does Cage taking on a planet destroyed organism have to do with how he matches up against a mute with a sword ?

Make sense, k ?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Cage was heavily reliant on his ability to start over and try again

Majora's Mask just came to mind.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Majora's Mask just came to mind. Tp only.

Does Cage time travel? If so then Oot or MM match up would be very interesting indeed. Battle over time!

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does Cage taking on a planet destroyed organism have to do with how he matches up against a mute with a sword ?

Make sense, k ?

The fact that Link actually fought a herald. I'm not sure where that thought came from (I certainly didn't bring it up), but what's your point?

Cage can ONLY win IF he has his power. If he doesn't then he gets dominated.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
The fact that Link actually fought a herald. I'm not sure where that thought came from (I certainly didn't bring it up), but what's your point? What does that have to do with how me matches up with Cage ? Honestly, you aren't making any sense whatsoever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does that have to do with how me matches up with Cage ? Honestly, you aren't making any sense whatsoever. Cage is street level.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Does Cage time travel? If so then Oot or MM match up would be very interesting indeed. Battle over time!

In a sense, but not exactly.

Link in those games could actively manipulate time, unlike Cage, so it wouldn't be near as fair... even with reset allowed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What does that have to do with how me matches up with Cage ? Honestly, you aren't making any sense whatsoever.

You brought it up, not me, but if you really want to know...

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Cage is street level.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Cage is street level. What kind of idiocy is this ?

If Cage shoots at Links and connects. He dies. Quit making shit up that isn't based off anything.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
You brought it up, not me, but if you really want to know... He wears an exosuit and destroys him with his weaponry. Show me any official statement that ranks either character into this sort of category.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What kind of idiocy is this ?

If Cage shoots at Links and connects. He dies. Quit making shit up that isn't based off anything.

Are you saying that he is ABOVE street level?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What kind of idiocy is this ?

If Cage shoots at Links and connects. He dies. Quit making shit up that isn't based off anything.

TP Lnk gets shot looses one heart out of twenty.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wears an exosuit and destroys him with his weaponry. Show me any official statement that ranks either character into this sort of category.



Links shield blocks any attack Cage can throw at him.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Are you saying that he is ABOVE street level?

Mid or High at best.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Are you saying that he is ABOVE street level? There is no such thing as street level. You made it up.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Links shield blocks any attack Cage can throw at him.

The magic Z-Button

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
TP Lnk gets shot looses one heart out of twenty. Each bullet even equaling one heart and he dies in moments.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Mid or High at best. He certainly isn't above cap, Elektra, batman, or Taskmaster.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no such thing as street level. You made it up.

How long have you been on KMC and not heard of Street level?

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no such thing as street level. You made it up.

So you don't know what a tier list is? Lol what an idiot.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Links shield blocks any attack Cage can throw at him. Based off what ? He was ko'd in his own game by clubs and beaten by Zant easily as well. He was easily teleported away by Midna. These are far slower attacks than exosuit weaponry.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
He certainly isn't above cap, Elektra, batman, or Taskmaster.

Mid then.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Mid then. That's where I would put him.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
How long have you been on KMC and not heard of Street level? It isn't real and is something posters tried to come to a consensus of with no real backing from anything. It is hilarious people try to actually use these terms like they hold any kind of weight.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
So you don't know what a tier list is? Lol what an idiot. No proof or any real backing. Condolences, dummy.

Does Link have all equipment? Max Inventory, Infinite Inventory? (Bomb,arrow, rupees?)

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
Does Link have all equipment? Max Inventory, Infinite Inventory? (Bomb,arrow, rupees?)

Lol'd at 'rupees'. haermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
No proof or any real backing. Condolences, dummy. We have a tier list for both comic and non comic characters.

Answer this is Cage above any of the following?

Elektra, Captain America, Batman, Taskmaster.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
We have a tier list for both comic and non comic characters.

Answer this is Cage above any of the following?

Elektra, Captain America, Batman, Taskmaster.

No, but it doesn't really matter at this point.

I've already summed up the fight with a point that was never directly addressed. I guess that shows how seriously this thread was meant to be taken. *sigh*



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Give Quan some credit. He's quite persistent.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Give Quan some credit. He's quite persistent.

Maliciously

If you guys like Edge Of Tomorrow, check out the manga "All You Need Is Kill" I'm pretty sure EoT is almost entirely based on that manga lol but I actually prefer AYNIK cause I like the ending waaaaay more. I've been contemplating on putting the main character against Master Chief.

Just a friendly suggestion, continue

Originally posted by Yamcha
If you guys like Edge Of Tomorrow, check out the manga "All You Need Is Kill" I'm pretty sure EoT is almost entirely based on that manga lol but I actually prefer AYNIK cause I like the ending waaaaay more. I've been contemplating on putting the main character against Master Chief.

Just a friendly suggestion, continue

That's actually part of what convinced me to see it, but I have yet to read the f**king source material. haermm And yeah, the ending had me asking a lot of questions, leaving me to speculate on the probability of plot holes in an otherwise solid narrative.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
That's actually part of what convinced me to see it, but I have yet to read the f**king source material. haermm And yeah, the ending had me asking a lot of questions, leaving me to speculate on the probability of plot holes in an otherwise solid narrative. Haha it's one I'd definitely recommend! It kept me hooked till the very end and it's actually a pretty short series, I started and finished it within a day I want to say? What made it even better for me though is I found it before the movie so the first chapter alone had me like "WHAT IS GOING ON." lol


Edit: Yeah here, http://www.mangahere.co/manga/all_you_need_is_kill/

It's only 17 chapters O.O

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
We have a tier list for both comic and non comic characters.

Answer this is Cage above any of the following?

Elektra, Captain America, Batman, Taskmaster. You don't get it. There is nothing to support this made up category of where you place heroes. It is awful and ignores evidence.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Lol'd at 'rupees'. haermm

Hey, the magic armor is serious business.

Anyway Link wins so I'm going to go do something else.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Hey, the magic armor is serious business.

Anyway Link wins so I'm going to go do something else.

Damn. I actually forgot about that. Good call.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Hey, the magic armor is serious business.

Anyway Link wins so I'm going to go do something else. Based on what does he win ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't get it. There is nothing to support this made up category of where you place heroes. It is awful and ignores evidence. So you are just ****ing stupid. Cage is below captain America, batman, and Electra.

While link is all above them,

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what does he win ?

The magic armor.

Originally posted by The Scenario
The magic armor. He doesn't have it here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have it here.

Why not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He doesn't have it here.

Yes he does. TP Link.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Why not? That isn't his standard gear.

Don't you think can win with standard gear ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't his standard gear.

Don't you think can win with standard gear ?

I haven't seen EOT yet so I don't know.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't his standard gear.

Don't you think can win with standard gear ?

HH may have something to say about that. (Anyone who can comment?)

Otherwise, you might want to specify that in the future.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Might want to specify that in the future.

Do you feel he loses without his armor ? That is also a no limits fallacy that goes along with it anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112


Do you feel he loses without his armor ? That is also a no limits fallacy that goes along with it anyways.

Nope.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
I haven't seen EOT yet so I don't know. Watch it ASAP, cheapo.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Nope. Can Link tank the weaponry Bill has access to ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Can Link tank the weaponry Bill has access to ?

You mean the Hylian Shield and the durability to tank explosives capable of reducing large building-sized stone against a pair of automatic weapons and a few munitions?

Yeah, I think he can, and it doesn't hurt to mention that Link carries those same said explosives that he can fire from his bow.

Just something else to consider... along with my main point from earlier... if you ever get around to it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't his standard gear.

Don't you think can win with standard gear ?

Sure I do, but I was just going for the quickest way to end the thread.

So what does each character have?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
You mean the Hylian Shield and the durability to tank explosives capable of reducing large building-sized stone against a pair of automatic weapons and a few munitions?

Yeah, I think he can, and it doesn't hurt to mention that Link carries those same said explosives that he can fire from his bow.

Just something else to consider... along with my main point from earlier... if you ever get around to it. Link has never shown the speed to react to bullets. He has been ko'd by clubs for crying out loud. Acting like a shield covers him from the explosives and gunfire Bill can use simultaneously is ridiculous.

Gunfire>>>> bow fire.

Speak up, boy.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Sure I do, but I was just going for the quickest way to end the thread.

So what does each character have? Weaponry and exceptional reflexes against much quicker opponents than Link.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Weaponry and exceptional reflexes against much quicker opponents than Link.

Okay, but that didn't answer the question.

What specific equipment does Link have and what specific equipment does Cage have?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link has never shown the speed to react to bullets. He has been ko'd by clubs for crying out loud. Acting like a shield covers him from the explosives and gunfire Bill can use simultaneously is ridiculous.

Gunfire>>>> bow fire.

Speak up, boy.

Lollowballing. He tanked Bulbin's axe, and the shield is indestructible as per lore statement and developer intent.

Not when the bow has shot out of atmosphere and damaged stronger things than Bill.

Go back to page 1. I'm not going to your reading for you.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
So you are just ****ing stupid. Cage is below captain America, batman, and Electra.

While link is all above them,

Originally posted by quanchi112
Weaponry and exceptional reflexes against much quicker opponents than Link.

Care to back that up? My guess is 'no.'

Originally posted by The Scenario
Okay, but that didn't answer the question.

What specific equipment does Link have and what specific equipment does Cage have? Exosuit and the weapons contained there in. Link has his master sword, bow and arrow, bombs, hook shot and shield.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Lollowballing. He tanked Bulbin's axe, and the shield is indestructible as per lore statement and developer intent.

Not when the bow has shot out of atmosphere and damaged stronger things than Bill.

Go back to page 1. I'm not going to your reading for you. Tanking the axe doesn't mean he is invulnerable to axes. Clubs ko'd him. No limits fallacy and that doesn't protect his entire body from the effects of explosions either.

You need to prove it is faster than bulletfire. You can't but will proclaim it anyways.

You are fanboying it up already.

Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Is this supposed to make sense ?

Can Cage tank the bomb arrow?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Care to back that up? My guess is 'no.' Watch the mimics movement speed and watch Link and Dorf's fight. Awfully slow compared to the mimics.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Can Cage tank the bomb arrow? Depends where it hits him. I don't see link ever getting the chance to fire it without dying though. Cage has faster projectiles, multiple guns, and explosives he can all aim at link simultaneously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tanking the axe doesn't mean he is invulnerable to axes. Clubs ko'd him. No limits fallacy and that doesn't protect his entire body from the effects of explosions either.

You need to prove it is faster than bulletfire. You can't but will proclaim it anyways.

You are fanboying it up already.

Of course, you once again chose to forget his "awakening", or his improvement throughout the game. How about I reference Bill being an incompetent screw-up and a coward at the start of the movie. Also, the explosives won't matter if they can't match Link's; the power of which I've already stated.

I could, actually, but I'll wait until you make a legible case for once in your life. You me yours, I'll show you mine. I'll be waiting.

Try actually responding to what I say.


Originally posted by quanchi112
Watch the mimics movement speed and watch Link and Dorf's fight. Awfully slow compared to the mimics.




So, you ask for definitive "proof", but you get to make assumtions?

Yeah, no.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Of course, you once again chose to forget his "awakening", or his improvement throughout the game. How about I reference Bill being an incompetent screw-up and a coward at the start of the movie. Also, the explosives won't matter if they can't match Link's; the power of which I've already stated.

I could, actually, but I'll wait until you make a legible case for once in your life. You me yours, I'll show you mine. I'll be waiting.

Try actually responding to what I say.




So, you ask for definitive "proof", but you get to make assumtions?

Yeah, no. I have heard the excuse before but you have no definitive proof that his durability was amped later throughout the game. Bill was a coward but his skills improved greatly just like Link's did. I never said otherwise because that is accurate.

They will matter when they connect.

I already have but you are a fanboy and deny reality at every turn.

Yep.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have heard the excuse before but you have no definitive proof that his durability was amped later throughout the game. Bill was a coward but his skills improved greatly just like Link's did. I never said otherwise because that is accurate.

They will matter when they connect.

I already have but you are a fanboy and deny reality at every turn.

Yep.

There you go. You denied AND admitted Link's improvement in the same paragraph, and even Link's physical showcases become progressively more impressive. You can infer that without making assumptions (as much as you like to do that).

Link's own munitions, which are demonstrably more powerful than Cage's, are barely capable of harming him, and this is assuming (again) that they do, in fact, hit him. He would honestly deplete his reserves before killing Link.

I made the most refined case in this thread at its start, and you dodged it because you know I'm right.

Nope.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Depends where it hits him. I don't see link ever getting the chance to fire it without dying though. Cage has faster projectiles, multiple guns, and explosives he can all aim at link simultaneously.

So assuming Link hits, Cage can't tank the bomb arrow?

Originally posted by The Scenario
So assuming Link hits, Cage can't tank the bomb arrow? He is human but Cage's accuracy and reflexes will assure that never happens.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is human but Cage's accuracy and reflexes will assure that never happens.

Okay.

I'm just making sure we all know that Link's weaponry is capable of one-shotting Cage.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
There you go. You denied AND admitted Link's improvement in the same paragraph, and even Link's physical showcases become progressively more impressive. You can infer that without making assumptions (as much as you like to do that).

Link's own munitions, which are demonstrably more powerful than Cage's, are barely capable of harming him, and this is assuming (again) that they do, in fact, hit him. He would honestly deplete his reserves before killing Link.

I made the most refined case in this thread at its start, and you dodged it because you know I'm right.

Nope. Link can't move at all close to as quick as the Mimics. Watch the film and if you believe link can replicate the impressive movement speed then post evidence.

That is a game play mechanic and if someone cuts his throat he dies. He doesn't need to wear down his hearts via gameplay.

No, you didn't. You are crying right now because you know Link loses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link can't move at all close to as quick as the Mimics. Watch the film and if you believe link can replicate the impressive movement speed then post evidence.

That is a game play mechanic and if someone cuts his throat he dies. He doesn't need to wear down his hearts via gameplay.

No, you didn't. You are crying right now because you know Link loses.

There you go deciding based on assumption again. (I'm starting to see a pattern here) The funny thing is that he actually doesn't have to. He's well enough defended to win this match without taking a single step.

Seeing as this has never happened, how about showing me where you get your information? I'll then proceed to give a shit about your request.

I'll take you seriously when you make an honest effort to address that point. Even so much as naming it would be a start, and for you, a sign of progress.

Still waiting...

EDIT: Also, since this apparently takes place in Hyrule Field, how far apart are the contestants at the start of the fight?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Okay.

I'm just making sure we all know that Link's weaponry is capable of one-shotting Cage. If it hits him in the right spots but it won't so don't worry about Tommy Cruisey.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it hits him in the right spots but it won't so don't worry about Tommy Cruisey.

He got killed by traffic. I'd say he has plenty to worry about.

As for "the right spots", Link hit an inch thick pole from the other end of a canyon at a lower altitude.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
There you go deciding based on assumption again. (I'm starting to see a pattern here) The funny thing is that he actually doesn't have to. He's well enough defended to win this match without taking a single step.

Seeing as this has never happened, how about showing me where you get your information? I'll then proceed to give a shit about your request.

I'll take you seriously when you make an honest effort to address that point. Even so much as naming it would be a start, and for you, a sign of progress.

Still waiting...

EDIT: Also, since this apparently takes place in Hyrule Field, how far apart are the contestants at the start of the fight? Based on ?

Clubs hit him a few times and he was defeated. No hearts were involved and Zant defeated him with tk as well.

Addressing what point ?


50 feet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Clubs hit him a few times and he was defeated. No hearts were involved and Zant defeated him with tk as well.

Addressing what point ?


50 feet.

The shield and his durability. Derp.

I never mentioned "hearts", and he also beat Zant's ass, in case you forgot about that too.

Shows how much you pay attention. Try making this a little more fun again.

Fair enough. Now with that in mind, think about that accuracy feat I mentioned.

So yeah, all I'm getting from this thread is that Link shoots Cage and then Cage dies.

There was a recent calc on Link's arrows that made me laugh pretty hard.

Which one?

Someone in a Death Battle thread on FB calculated that to wake up a Goron Link's arrows would have to be around 12% the speed of light or something.

So in other words a speed from KE calc? Yeah, we all know how those don't work

They actually do return proper results as often as other calcs do. The problem is calcs in general these days, lol.

It's about application.

Only if it's shown in-verse that speed is contributing the force, I think.

Those usually work, but again can be easily misapplied.

Oh wait this is a overall force / mass thing to get speed, right?