Depa Billaba and Sora Bulq Vs Exar Kun

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Fated Xtasy
Two of the three sole masters of Vaapad Versus the master of saber staff.

Round 1 Normal fight.

Round 2 Team one is amped by BM.

Location: Telos Secret Academy

Who wins?

carthage
Kun

Trocity
Originally posted by carthage
Kun

carthage
Oh with battle med Team takes Kun out in match II

Sinious
Kun takes this.

carthage
Not the second round imo

Sinious
Feats for Depa?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In the first round, I'll go with Exar Kun pretty damn solidly.

In round 2, it's gonna be a close fight, but I'm still giving it to Kun.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by Sinious
Feats for Depa?

Well i know very little about her. What i do know is that Mace thought her bladework surpassed his own, she was a master of Vaapad and dueled Mace but lost to him. And according to new info from Rebels she was also form 3 specialist and Kanan's Master

So that's about it, I'm sure there's more, but that's about all that I know about her.

DarthAnt66
Don't try to combine Legends and Canon continuity. It doesn't work like that.
Inquisitor made note Depa specialized in Form 3, meaning she was never a user of Vaapad in known canon.
This conclusion can be drawn because Vaapad does not even exist in canon. Mace's lightsaber style is unknown.

Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Don't try to combine Legends and Canon continuity. It doesn't work like that.
Inquisitor made note Depa specialized in Form 3, meaning she was never a user of Vaapad in known canon.
This conclusion can be drawn because Vaapad does not even exist in canon. Mace's lightsaber style is unknown.

A good point. However, He asked what I knew of her and I responded with what little information i have of her. I wasn't trying to combine both continuities, I just responded honestly and with what little information i had. So, please don't make such assumptions. Thank you.

Nalaniel
Exar in both rounds.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
A good point. However, He asked what I knew of her and I responded with what little information i have of her. I wasn't trying to combine both continuities, I just responded honestly and with what little information i had. So, please don't make such assumptions. Thank you.
It wasn't an assumption though. smile You used "also", which is used to introduce an additional comment from what you already said (in this case, Vaapad and Soresu).

Nephthys
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Don't try to combine Legends and Canon continuity. It doesn't work like that.
Inquisitor made note Depa specialized in Form 3, meaning she was never a user of Vaapad in known canon.
This conclusion can be drawn because Vaapad does not even exist in canon. Mace's lightsaber style is unknown.

Aren't the novels canon though? The novels that clearly talk about Vaapad?

DarthAnt66
Only the parts that are seen in the movie are canon, and the fight with Palpatine in the novel is grossly different from the movie.

Q99
Kun's high force offense is a huge advantage against Bulq, so it gets rendered down to him vs Depa pretty fast.

Lord Stark
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Don't try to combine Legends and Canon continuity. It doesn't work like that.
Inquisitor made note Depa specialized in Form 3, meaning she was never a user of Vaapad in known canon.
This conclusion can be drawn because Vaapad does not even exist in canon. Mace's lightsaber style is unknown.

Sorry, but that's what we've been doing here. We do combine Legends and Canon feats.
"Sora Bulq. Depa Billaba. Jedi who have fallen to the dark. Who
have joined the Separatists, or worse: who have massacred
civilians, or even murdered their comrades."- ROTS Novel

""I have seen it in Nar Shaddaa, and I saw it on Haruun Kal. I saw what it did to Depa, and to Sora Bulq."- ROTS Novel

And even if we didn't the events of Shatterpoint still seem to be canon according to the ROTS novel.

"He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is nowhere in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku"- ROTS Novel

This heavily implies Mace and Depa master the same form.

Selenial
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Only the parts that are seen in the movie are canon, and the fight with Palpatine in the novel is grossly different from the movie.

This is wrong though, it's not parts that agree, it's parts that don't conflict.

Vapaad was mentioned at other times IIRC, and even if not it should stand to reason that Vapaad is canon even if the fight differs, because Mace's saber style was never explained in a movie and thus has nothing to conflict with.

DarthAnt66
No, we don't combine Legends continuity into Canon. Otherwise, once Episode 7 is released, we have movie feats we would use then for FOTJ Luke Skywalker. It doesn't work like that. We won't debate for DE Luke Skywalker that he defeated "Sith Inquisitor Joe Blow in Episode 8"...they are different stories. Note that this is a Legends/Expanded Universe forum boards, where while Legends include of all known Canon stories from April 25, 2014 and before, it is not the same vice-versa. We see this also on Wookieepedia: Kanan Jarrus is not a member of the Expanded Universe continuity in any existent material or those to still come.

Selenial
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
No, we don't combine Legends continuity into Canon. Otherwise, once Episode 7 is released, we have movie feats we would use then for FOTJ Luke Skywalker. It doesn't work like that. We won't debate for DE Luke Skywalker that he defeated "Sith Inquisitor Joe Blow in Episode 8"...they are different stories. Note that this is a Legends/Expanded Universe forum boards, where while Legends include of all known Canon stories from April 25, 2014 and before, it is not the same vice-versa. We see this also on Wookieepedia: Kanan Jarrus is not a member of the Expanded Universe continuity in any existent material or those to still come.

Fair enough with using the New canon, I was only correcting your mistake with Vapaad.

DarthAnt66
I thought you were trolling. You can't seriously be suggesting any part of the ROTS novel is canon. no expression

Nephthys
Are you trolling? What she said seemed right to me.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Note that this is a Legends/Expanded Universe forum boards,

This isn't specifically a "Legends" board as far as I'm aware. It's an EU Board. That can include Official Canon EU as well like TCW, Rebels, and the new Tarkin novel.

But your right that it's not a good idea to start mixing and matching Legends continuity with "the new" Official canon continuity. Because they don't recognize each other, so don't mesh.

On the other hand every time we used to discuss feats from the movies in the EU section, we basically were mixing and matching EU with Official canon. But I suppose that's because The films were canon to the old Legends, whilst Rebels is the start of a new Canon not apart of Legends continuity.

Tzeentch
Yeah, S-canon and below all existed within the same continuity, whereas Legends is basically about as canon now as those Infinity comics were to the old EU- i.e. it's more or less a bunch of "what-ifs" or alternative histories.

Arhael
Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Well i know very little about her. What i do know is that Mace thought her bladework surpassed his own, she was a master of Vaapad and dueled Mace but lost to him.
She didn't lose to him. She battered him badly. He was on the floor at her mercy but she refused to strike him down and committed suicide.

But whole fight was circumstantial. It began with Mace having lightsaber hole in his gut. She was getting stronger from fear and death of soldiers around and Mace was refusing to use Vaapad.

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