Watchmen vs Winter Soldiers

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Time Immemorial
Ozy, Night Owl, Comedian, Rorch and Silk Spectre

vs

Captain America, Winter Soldier, Black Widow, and Brock

Fight in a Prison Yard

No weapons, No shield, H2H

Lestov16
Marvel ftw

Cap and WS probably solo

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Lestov16
Marvel ftw

Cap and WS probably solo

No way man, not solo. Black Widow put up a good fight for him and Silk is above her.

Lestov16
How is SS above her?

dadudemon
Ozy can take on Captain and Winter Soldier, at the same time, and maybe pull out a win against both 1 or 2 out of 10 times.

Rorscahc, Night Owl, and Silk Spectre on on par with all of the members of the other team.

Since The Ozy team is stacked with 1 more person than the other, they win, easily.

Remove Ozy and I think this becomes a half and half situation. smile Remove someone else from the Ozy team besides Ozy, then the Ozy team still wins a majority.

FrothByte
Why give the Watchmen advantage in numbers?

Lestov16
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ozy can take on Captain and Winter Soldier, at the same time, and maybe pull out a win against both 1 or 2 out of 10 times.

Rorscahc, Night Owl, and Silk Spectre on on par with all of the members of the other team.

Since The Ozy team is stacked with 1 more person than the other, they win, easily.

Remove Ozy and I think this becomes a half and half situation. smile Remove someone else from the Ozy team besides Ozy, then the Ozy team still wins a majority.

BS. Ozymandias is the only one comparable with the MCU Team. Cap, WS, and/or BW could easily replicate that prison scene.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Lestov16
BS. Ozymandias is the only one comparable with the MCU Team. Cap, WS, and/or BW could easily replicate that prison scene.

Based on feat, that is an incorrect solution.

Here is the very simple reason:

When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, they go flying. When those Marvel characters kick and punch people, only Cap and Winter Soldier cause them to go flying.

Here's the major difference: When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, their bones break, horrendously, and they go flying. The exceptions being the members of Watchmen, itself. When those Marvel characters do so, their bones do not break.

By feats, the harder strikers are the Watchmen characters. Advantage, Watchmen. Since Ozy is on their team and Ozy would take a majority against their best, Captain America, this is a landslide victory for the Watchmen team. They also have 1 more character than the Marvel team which makes this a landslide victory.

wallman77
Originally posted by dadudemon
Based on feat, that is an incorrect solution.

Here is the very simple reason:

When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, they go flying. When those Marvel characters kick and punch people, only Cap and Winter Soldier cause them to go flying.

Here's the major difference: When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, their bones break, horrendously, and they go flying. The exceptions being the members of Watchmen, itself. When those Marvel characters do so, their bones do not break.

By feats, the harder strikers are the Watchmen characters. Advantage, Watchmen. Since Ozy is on their team and Ozy would take a majority against their best, Captain America, this is a landslide victory for the Watchmen team. They also have 1 more character than the Marvel team which makes this a landslide victory.
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bangin

wallman77
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ozy can take on Captain and Winter Soldier, at the same time, and maybe pull out a win against both 1 or 2 out of 10 times.



Jumpy



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pym-ftw
What the f**k?

Bucky wins

Robtard
Originally posted by dadudemon
Ozy can take on Captain and Winter Soldier, at the same time, and maybe pull out a win against both 1 or 2 out of 10 times.

Actually don't think this is as insane as it sounds when you first read it.

Here's why:

While Cap and WS are above Rors and Nite in overall skill and power, Ozy easily handed both their asses while not trying to harm them too severely. Assuming Ozy is going all out here and trying to kill, it's feasible he could take out CAP and WS 10-20% of the time.

He's also smart enough to quickly deduce that these two have repressed homosexual urges for each other going back to the 30's when they were teens, so he'd mind-**** them over the edge, since he has no problem holding a conversation and fighting.

wallman77
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually don't think this is as insane as it sounds when you first read it.

Here's why:

While Cap and WS are above Rors and Nite in overall skill and power, Ozy easily handed both their asses while not trying to harm them too severely. Assuming Ozy is going all out here and trying to kill, it's feasible he could take out CAP and WS 10-20% of the time.

He's also smart enough to quickly deduce that these two have repressed homosexual urges for each other going back to the 30's when they were teens, so he'd mind-**** them over the edge, since he has no problem holding a conversation and fighting.

tomato

Robtard
Originally posted by wallman77
tomato

When I first read it I knee-jerked and thought: "DDM has his lips locked on Veidt's poop-hole again." just like you.

wallman77
Originally posted by Robtard
When I first read it I knee-jerked and thought: "DDM has his lips locked on Veidt's poop-hole again." just like you.

lol

BruceSkywalker
Marvel wins..

DC loses

'nuff said..end thread

Mindset
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually don't think this is as insane as it sounds when you first read it.

Here's why:

While Cap and WS are above Rors and Nite in overall skill and power, Ozy easily handed both their asses while not trying to harm them too severely. Assuming Ozy is going all out here and trying to kill, it's feasible he could take out CAP and WS 10-20% of the time.

He's also smart enough to quickly deduce that these two have repressed homosexual urges for each other going back to the 30's when they were teens, so he'd mind-**** them over the edge, since he has no problem holding a conversation and fighting. Cap would beat those two like Ozy did, imo.

WS with more difficulty, but he could do it too.

Ozy will not be able to beat them any times out of 10; his only hope is to hold them off until he can get help.

Robtard
Originally posted by Mindset
Cap would beat those two like Ozy did, imo.

WS with more difficulty, but he could do it too.

Ozy will not be able to beat them any times out of 10; his only hope is to hold them off until he can get help.

I think so too. Cap > Nite & Rors

I think so too. WS > Nite & Rors

Well, another way to look at it, while we disagree, we're not far off, you say "0"; I said "1-2". That's not too bad at all thumb up

Firefly218
Originally posted by dadudemon
Based on feat, that is an incorrect solution.

Here is the very simple reason:

When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, they go flying. When those Marvel characters kick and punch people, only Cap and Winter Soldier cause them to go flying.

Here's the major difference: When Watchmen characters kick and punch people, their bones break, horrendously, and they go flying. The exceptions being the members of Watchmen, itself. When those Marvel characters do so, their bones do not break.

By feats, the harder strikers are the Watchmen characters. Advantage, Watchmen. Since Ozy is on their team and Ozy would take a majority against their best, Captain America, this is a landslide victory for the Watchmen team. They also have 1 more character than the Marvel team which makes this a landslide victory.

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Time Immemorial
Two words: Prison Scene..

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by FrothByte
Why give the Watchmen advantage in numbers?

Because people here ignore feats of watchmen so much and wank captain and ws feats beyond belief, silk specter was needed to balance the scales.

Firefly218
Honestly, ddm pretty much summed up why I think watchmen would win this.

In terms of strength and durability, Brock and Black Widow are outclassed. Cap and WS are incredibly skilled, but silk specter, night owl, rorshak and ozy outnumber them.

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