What's Vader's real speed tier ?

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Marco1907
I mean seriously. Without hyperboles...

Nephthys
It's over 9000.

FreshestSlice
Faster than Maul.

Darth Abonis
EWWW.

WildBantha88
Vader is fast enough to dodge blaster bolts easily

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149056/3088131-dart+vader.jpg

DARTH POWER
He's a fast as Old Ben. (However fast that is).

Emperordmb
That's rather amusing. A speed level in question compared to a speed level unknown for clarification.

The Merchant
He's so fast that he traveled a huge distance from that cult temple in Vader and the Ninth Assassin back to his ship in a second.

Q99
There's body and then there's arm.

Body wise, he's certainly less acrobatic than many. In terms of his ability to swing a sword, though, he's still able to keep up with just about anyone, and faster than many.

Arhael
"Faster than anyone but Yoda". cool

FreshestSlice
Originally posted by Q99
There's body and then there's arm.

Body wise, he's certainly less acrobatic than many.
Nope. Vader's still pretty acrobatic, tbh.

Arhael
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Nope. Vader's still pretty acrobatic, tbh.
Can you actually give a single example? Yes, he can jump high and move fast. But his body simply cannot twist well.

FreshestSlice
I meant being able to move well and fast. Not twisting. Those things still fall under acrobatics.

Emperordmb
Vader's got speed, but agility is not his forte.

WildBantha88
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vader's got speed, but agility is not his forte.

You guys did see that scan I posted where Vader jumps upwards over some guys causing him to shoot his friend right?

I think that is a good argument for both agility and speed.

NewGuy01
He's on Obi-Wan's speed class, though he's not nearly as agile.

DARTH POWER
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He's on Obi-Wan's speed class, though he's not nearly as agile.

This is probably closest to the truth.


Of course the reason everyone's coming out with different answers here is because what Lucas intended in his Old Official Canon, and what the Old EU Legends portrays and what the New Official Canon will show are likely all completely different. Then it didn't help that Lucas went around clearly contradicting his own statements on the matter.

Personally I'm looking forward to his feats and showings in the New Disney Official Canon.

Marco1907
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Faster than Maul.



http://www.starwars.com/video/the-s...-10-best-fights

3:29


TPM Maul & Dooku > RotJ Vader

Maul is Quick and deadly like no other StarWars villain before.

ares834
Maul > Sheev

eek!

FreshestSlice
Vader isn't even a villain. He's the protag, yo. Like Ulic.

Marco1907
Originally posted by ares834
Maul > Sheev

eek!

Sheev didn't fight in the TPM. *Sigh*

ares834
But he was a villain in RotJ... Which came out before TPM.

Marco1907
Originally posted by ares834
But he was a villain in RotJ... Which came out before TPM.

Sheev was using a f**** walking stick in the RotJ. And never demonstrated his speed.

ares834
yes

Just like Yoda in the PT.

Marco1907
And Yoda showed his speed, RotJ Sheev didn't.

ares834
Your point? Your clearly canon source says Maul is quicker and deadlier than any SW villain before not that he is the quickest and deadliest that we have seen.

Marco1907
Clearly you are not going to accept any official source which is says ''Maul is faster than Vader.''

So arguing is pointless. Even though George Lucas himself said that Vader is crippled half droid half man and he wanted to be much more energetic and faster ; Darth Maul.

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FreshestSlice
Maul isn't even faster than Obi-Wan.

Marco1907
Vader is not even faster than ''Old Ben Kenobi'' ....

And Maul is clearly faster than Obi-Wan.

FreshestSlice
Because you said so. Yep.

Marco1907
No because Lucas said so.



And Old Kai Hudorra said so ;

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y418/karasakal_teach/StarWars-DarkTimesOcircCcediloumlASparkRemains005-013_zps437587b1.jpg

Nalaniel
19 BBY. Vader just got the suit...

Marco1907
Doesn't really matter, it is just belong to his power set, it cannot be changed. His breathing apparatus and his heavy armor makes him slower than peak force sensitives.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y418/karasakal_teach/StarWarsComics04b0bafett_Scans02_zps2fd83754.jpg



Saying ''slow'' politely :

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3 ABY - Tales 4

Bounty Hunter Stauz Czycz vs. Vader

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y418/karasakal_teach/Star_Wars_Tales_n04-07_zps3f08fcba.jpg

Another example ; Vader fails to tag him.

DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Marco1907
Doesn't really matter, it is just belong to his power set, it cannot be changed. His breathing apparatus and his heavy armor makes him slower than peak force sensitives.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y418/karasakal_teach/StarWarsComics04b0bafett_Scans02_zps2fd83754.jpg



Saying ''slow'' politely :

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3 ABY - Tales 4

Bounty Hunter Stauz Czycz vs. Vader

Another example ; Vader fails to tag him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuebj4kVOy4&t=1m10s

NewGuy01
And Vader also completely outclasses Aurra Sing by dodging all of her acrobatics and attacks without even trying. Trying to make an argument against peak Vader by showing demonstrations of his weakest incarnations is not going to convince anyone.

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