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I'm bias towards Doc Samson, so..........

"Realistically", I'd have to say split.

Originally posted by zopzop
I'm bias towards Doc Samson, so..........

"Realistically", I'd have to say split.

Ben would beat the hell out of Leonard. Too much skill.

I'm going with the lifelong tough guy over the academic who got powers and started throwing hands as an adult.

Too much skill; too much Heart Force.

Samson, however, still wins. Yes, he's an academic, but he also has an evil side to him (which gives him more powah!)

Thing would win imo

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too much skill; too much Heart Force.

Samson, however, still wins. Yes, he's an academic, but he also has an evil side to him (which gives him more powah!)
Unless he lands a sucker punch, Samson's not winning. Evil side notwithstanding, since Ben routinely fights people who's every side is evil...

Samson has already beaten Thing.

I dont think thats ever been a deciding factor in a forum fight.

Sampson has better fts.

Originally posted by riv6672
I dont think thats ever been a deciding factor in a forum fight.
For you nothing is, except your own bizarro logic.

Haha no.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Samson has already beaten Thing.

PIS.

Thing wins

Originally posted by riv6672
Haha no.
Feats don't matter for you, fights don't matter for you. What is left to decide a winner?Originally posted by Bentley
PIS.

Thing wins
Ha, Samson beats Thing to death.

Originally posted by abhilegend
For you nothing is, except your own bizarro logic.

That haha no was meant for the post above you.

That said, by your ABC logic, Captain Marvel will always beat Superman.
Bane will always beat Batman.
Spider-man will always beat Firelord.
The Atom and Green Arrow will always beat Darkseid.
Dick Grayson will always beat GL Hal.
The Punisher will always beat Wolverine.
And on and on....

Yes, abhi. I'm sure they will.
Make the board a list of every character who's ever had a loss to another character.
The mods can stickie it, save us all making useless threads.

Originally posted by riv6672
That haha no was meant for the post above you.

That said, by your ABC logic, Captain Marvel will always beat Superman.
Bane will always beat Batman.
Spider-man will always beat Firelord.
The Atom and Green Arrow will always beat Darkseid.
Dick Grayson will always beat GL Hal.
The Punisher will always beat Wolverine.
And on and on....

Yes, abhi. I'm sure they will.
Make the board a list of every character who's ever had a loss to another character.
The mods can stickie it, save us all making useless threads.
You're sure you didn't come from a bizarro world? Have you ever heard of an underdog beating a superior opponent by sheer luck?

Samson beat Thing because he was stronger, that's it. Now cry more.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Too much skill; too much Heart Force.

Samson, however, still wins. Yes, he's an academic, but he also has an evil side to him (which gives him more powah!)
Yup, but even without his "unleashed" side he's still formidable when he's not unsure about himself. He admitted that he held back and doubted himself throughout his career as a hero.

Plus, what abhi said

@abhi

Well obviously you've never heard of sarcasm.
Bottom line, when its your example, its an undeniable close the thread fact.
Anyone else's example, its dumb luck, doesnt count, i'm still right.

God you're predictable.

Originally posted by riv6672
@abhi

Well obviously you've never heard of sarcasm.
Bottom line, when its your example, its an undeniable close the thread fact.
Anyone else's example, its dumb luck, doesnt count, i'm still right.

God you're predictable.
So nothing of value whatsoever as usual?

You're just as useless as ever. But don't let that stop you, Samson beat Thing when he was weaker than he was now. But Thing wins just because Riv says so. Right?

He certainly doesnt lose because abhi says so.

Let me save you some time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Shut up.

Excellent advice for yourself. Do us all a favor and shut up.

Originally posted by riv6672
He certainly doesnt lose because abhi says so.
He does because Samson has beaten him in the past. Not because I say so.

I seem to recall Samson embarrassing She-Hulk towards the end of Loeb's Red shit debacle.

Plus, Samson's first fight with Hulk was better than Ben has ever done.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I seem to recall Samson embarrassing She-Hulk towards the end of Loeb's Red shit debacle.

Plus, Samson's first fight with Hulk was better than Ben has ever done.

Seriously? Have you seen the wars that Ben has had with the Hulk? They have had fights that have lasted for entire issues if I recall correctly.

Samson's first fight with Hulk lasted a few issues. Plus he knocked Hulk out, which Ben has never done.

Ben actually won his first fight with the Hulk, from what I remember.

Originally posted by Stoic
Seriously? Have you seen the wars that Ben has had with the Hulk? They have had fights that have lasted for entire issues if I recall correctly.
He,Samson, was also holding his own vs Wonderman/Hercules/Iron Man/Namor (dehyrated some).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ha, Samson beats Thing to death.

When did the battle happen? How many upgrades did Thing have since then? Three? Four?

Originally posted by Bentley
When did the battle happen? How many upgrades did Thing have since then? Three? Four?
Doc Samson also had his unleashed form and like I said before he admitted he held back/doubted himself throughout his hero career.

Originally posted by zopzop
Doc Samson also had his unleashed form and like I said before he admitted he held back/doubted himself throughout his hero career.

I'm well aware of that, which is why he puts up a fight at all

Originally posted by Bentley
I'm well aware of that, which is why he puts up a fight at all
His unleashed form is overkill. Doc fighting like he means it, which he admitted on panel he never did before, would be more than a match for Ben, sorry.

Originally posted by zopzop
His unleashed form is overkill. Doc fighting like he means it, which he admitted on panel he never did before, would be more than a match for Ben, sorry.

I can agree that power, and superior strength wins the day a lot of the times, but not always. Ability, and experience must factor in somewhere, and Ben has more on panel, and general fighting experience than Samson does.

Originally posted by zopzop
He,Samson, was also holding his own vs Wonderman/Hercules/Iron Man/Namor (dehyrated some).

You don't seriously believe that they were going all out on him do you? Come on man.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Excellent advice for yourself. Do us all a favor and shut up.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He does because Samson has beaten him in the past. Not because I say so.
You realize this means you were just talking to yourself?

Actually that's what you usually do anyway, its not like you're apt to change your mind or pay attention to anyone else's points.

Or Topic:
Ben has way better feats, experience, and skill if thats what's needed to "get a win" here, if only by sheer number of battles over Samson.

Originally posted by zopzop
His unleashed form is overkill. Doc fighting like he means it, which he admitted on panel he never did before, would be more than a match for Ben, sorry.

He's not on par with Abomination in that form. I don't see him getting a majority on Namor either (which Thing has done, even beating him on ocasion). Where exactly do you think he stands? Iron Clad level? A-Bomb's?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Samson has already beaten Thing.


Scans please...

I'd see a split....Samson is stronger, Thing is more skilled. I think the gap in their skill is bigger than the gap in their strength, though....so I guess 6-7/10 Thing, if I had to choose.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Samson has already beaten Thing.

He's beaten the Hulk too.

I'm liking Samson for this.

Loeb Samson was retarded (like all of Loeb's characters), but not unfeasible. Ellis laid the groundwork for unleashed Samson years before that.

Originally posted by GroggyGrunt
I'd see a split....Samson is stronger, Thing is more skilled. I think the gap in their skill is bigger than the gap in their strength, though....so I guess 6-7/10 Thing, if I had to choose.
I can agree with this.

Originally posted by tkitna
He's beaten the Hulk too.
Add this to my list on pg1. Another match up not to bother with here.

Originally posted by Bentley
When did the battle happen? How many upgrades did Thing have since then? Three? Four?
Not enough upgrades to last against Samson.Originally posted by Stoic
Seriously? Have you seen the wars that Ben has had with the Hulk? They have had fights that have lasted for entire issues if I recall correctly.
That has never happened. Thing always plays up his speed against Hulk. In his most famous fight against Hulk in FF 112, Hulk landed only three/four hits on him and all but one were glancing blows. The last one actually sent Thing into coma.Originally posted by riv6672
You realize this means you were just talking to yourself?

Actually that's what you usually do anyway, its not like you're apt to change your mind or pay attention to anyone else's points.

Or Topic:
Ben has way better feats, experience, and skill if thats what's needed to "get a win" here, if only by sheer number of battles over Samson.
Samson has fought Hulk for six hours straight.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/MindlessHulkStamina02317.jpg

Thing would be lucky to survive five minute against that mindless Hulk.

Again, still weaker than Abomination, he'd would still go down against Namor (who is in Thing's class just fine).

People who give the win to Samson seem to think he's a pushover like Colossus mmm

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, still weaker than Abomination, he'd would still go down against Namor (who is in Thing's class just fine).

People who give the win to Samson seem to think he's a pushover like Colossus mmm
That's some funny ABC comparison. Namor fluctuates wildly, Namor from his own series would assrape Thing. He was equal to Hercules in strength when he beat Abomination.

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, still weaker than Abomination, he'd would still go down against Namor (who is in Thing's class just fine).

People who give the win to Samson seem to think he's a pushover like Colossus mmm

Despite being weaker, Samson still fought Hulk for six hours. THAT is skill.

Besides, Samson's durability is a few notches above the Thing's, imo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's some funny ABC comparison. Namor fluctuates wildly, Namor from his own series would assrape Thing. He was equal to Hercules in strength when he beat Abomination.


Thing has defeated Namor recently and through their history their victories go back and forth. I don't abide by the logic that has Namor always jobbing when he doesn't defeat Thing, with that logic Surfer could theoretically defeat Thanos because he "always jobs" against him


Originally posted by krisblaze
Despite being weaker, Samson still fought Hulk for six hours. THAT is skill.

Besides, Samson's durability is a few notches above the Thing's, imo.

Samson should have a durability edge, but with his established fightin ability Thing will be dealing much more damage than he's receiving.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not enough upgrades to last against Samson.
That has never happened. Thing always plays up his speed against Hulk. In his most famous fight against Hulk in FF 112, Hulk landed only three/four hits on him and all but one were glancing blows. The last one actually sent Thing into coma.
Samson has fought Hulk for six hours straight.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/MindlessHulkStamina02317.jpg

Thing would be lucky to survive five minute against that mindless Hulk.

So a calm Hulk is class 75 or so?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Despite being weaker, Samson still fought Hulk for six hours. THAT is skill.

Besides, Samson's durability is a few notches above the Thing's, imo.

Depends. if they're just trading haymakers for 6 hours straight, it's more a testament to his durability/HF.

So even if Thing deals more damage, Samson will just heal up. Ben won't.

If you check out the fight you'll see Samson basically blitz him half the time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So a calm Hulk is class 75 or so?

Calm Hulk doesn't exist on KMC.

On KMC the Savage Hulk is always around Thor/Hercules level (he's never been that strong )

Originally posted by Bentley
Thing has defeated Namor recently and through their history their victories go back and forth. I don't abide by the logic that has Namor always jobbing when he doesn't defeat Thing, with that logic Surfer could theoretically defeat Thanos because he "always jobs" against him




Samson should have a durability edge, but with his established fightin ability Thing will be dealing much more damage than he's receiving.
Namor has oneshotted Thing before. Recently everybody and his mother has beaten Namor. He isn't what he used to be.

But Thing has never KOED a full power Namor.

A skillful Thing doesnt exist on KMC.

For SOME people.

He doesn't exist in comics too FYI.

abhi is one of those people.

Who have actually read comics starring Thing and is not talking from just his pre-conceptions?

Because as always you'll start crying when I'll ask for these "alleged" skills showings of Thing. So I won't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor has oneshotted Thing before. Recently everybody and his mother has beaten Namor. He isn't what he used to be.

But Thing has never KOED a full power Namor.


Trying to lowball Namor to make Samson sound better isn't the way to argue here.

Ok, so I guess you want me to find one of those kos so you can try to look for excuses for Namor being weakened? We can play that game but... Will it even matter? Do you really care about Thing vs Namor or you'll just side with Samson anyways?

Originally posted by Bentley
Trying to lowball Namor to make Samson sound better isn't the way to argue here.

Ok, so I guess you want me to find one of those kos so you can try to look for excuses for Namor being weakened? We can play that game but... Will it even matter? Do you really care about Thing vs Namor or you'll just side with Samson anyways?
Yes, please post those fights in context. This should be interesting.

Originally posted by Bentley
Trying to lowball Namor to make Samson sound better isn't the way to argue here.

Ok, so I guess you want me to find one of those kos so you can try to look for excuses for Namor being weakened? We can play that game but... Will it even matter? Do you really care about Thing vs Namor or you'll just side with Samson anyways?
My GOD, i'm not the only one who sees this!

Something has been bugging me about the "Samson vs. Hulk" argument, and I finally managed to dig out the comic that caused it. It's a Spider-Man comic where Samson gets infected with a "gamma virus" that releases all of his hostility and reservation, after which he promptly goes hunting for the Hulk (who just so happens to be in the same city at the moment...and this is Professor Hulk we're talking).

A no-holding-back, enraged Samson gets put down in 3 pages (4 if you count one panel when Samson initially attacks) by Professor Hulk.

I think there's some PIS in that and I still think Samson is a bit stronger than Thing...but I also think his strength is getting overhyped here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who have actually read comics starring Thing and is not talking from just his pre-conceptions?

Because as always you'll start crying when I'll ask for these "alleged" skills showings of Thing. So I won't.


You're joking right...? I've read 85% of the books that Ben has been in since his inception. And I've never seen Sampson beat him.

Ben has beaten HULK a small handful of times and KO'd him twice. He's beaten Namor twice as many times as he's lost to him and he's KO'd him more than once and he's never been one shotted by him that's BS. You may have been thinking about Ultimate characters, and it still never happened . You have seen the MARVEL 2-n-1 Annual #7 right? Sampson WAS in that issue, you may want to check it out. Ben has also went through most of the Avengers at once in one issue. And FTR Ben is mid CL100 Sampson is nowhere near that.

Sampson is NOT in Ben's class... end of lesson.

I liked that annual. Showed what Ben brings to a fight.

Samson was unphased by Moonstone's best in Thunderbolts, as well as Penance's larger blasts.

Both of those were beastly in Ellis' run.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
You're joking right...? I've read 85% of the books that Ben has been in since his inception. And I've never seen Sampson beat him.

Ben has beaten HULK a small handful of times and KO'd him twice. He's beaten Namor twice as many times as he's lost to him and he's KO'd him more than once and he's never been one shotted by him that's BS. You may have been thinking about Ultimate characters, and it still never happened . You have seen the MARVEL 2-n-1 Annual #7 right? Sampson WAS in that issue, you may want to check it out. Ben has also went through most of the Avengers at once in one issue. And FTR Ben is mid CL100 Sampson is nowhere near that.

Sampson is NOT in Ben's class... end of lesson.

Tony, I think you might be in error on some of this. Namor has indeed one shotted Ben and that was when he was in his Pineapple stage (i'll try to find the scan). I don't like it either, but it happened. I also think Sampson is at least as strong as Benjy and probably more so.

All things considered though, I still feel Ben wins this after a long battle.

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo227/wilcat92/Namora/NamorAnn1-50NastyNat.jpg

Originally posted by Bentley
Trying to lowball Namor to make Samson sound better isn't the way to argue here.

Ok, so I guess you want me to find one of those kos so you can try to look for excuses for Namor being weakened? We can play that game but... Will it even matter? Do you really care about Thing vs Namor or you'll just side with Samson anyways?
So you don't have any scan of Namor vs Thing fights where Thing has KOED him, right? Gotcha.Originally posted by Tony Stark
You're joking right...? I've read 85% of the books that Ben has been in since his inception. And I've never seen Sampson beat him.

Ben has beaten HULK a small handful of times and KO'd him twice. He's beaten Namor twice as many times as he's lost to him and he's KO'd him more than once and he's never been one shotted by him that's BS. You may have been thinking about Ultimate characters, and it still never happened . You have seen the MARVEL 2-n-1 Annual #7 right? Sampson WAS in that issue, you may want to check it out. Ben has also went through most of the Avengers at once in one issue. And FTR Ben is mid CL100 Sampson is nowhere near that.

Sampson is NOT in Ben's class... end of lesson.
I doubt that you'll even see the page where Samson beat Thing. I'll have to check out the comics and will get back to you.

Thing has NEVER beaten the hulk. I dare you to show a scene where Thing beat Hulk when hulk wasn't weakened or being assisted by Fantastic Four. He has never KOED Namor. And Namor has oneshotted pineapple Thing in Namor annual 1, koed 616 Thing in one punch in Heroes Reborn etc.

And thing would be lucky to be class 90. He's never been class 100. GTFO with that BS.

This is just more abhi double talk.
Considering i've seen you claim victories for say, off the top of my head, random character...Superman, multiple times during team fights, and your definition of weakened differs from character to character/point you're trying to make to point you're trying to make, your caveats here are highly hypocritical.

Originally posted by riv6672
This is just more abhi double talk.
Considering i've seen you claim victories for say, off the top of my head, random character...Superman, multiple times during team fights, and your definition of weakened differs from character to character/point you're trying to make to point you're trying to make, your caveats here are highly hypocritical.
When have I said anything like that? I specify when a character is weakened.


And why are you bringing up Superman here? Is that like your OCD?

Pot. kettle.

Originally posted by riv6672
Pot. kettle.
So you're just crying after I asked you a proof? Again!


If you're not man enough to provide proofs to your claims, just say so.

The Thing "Has" only beaten Hulk under special conditions

so i don't know why your huffing & puffing about this riv66.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you're just crying after I asked you a proof? Again!


If you're not man enough to provide proofs to your claims, just say so.
Not at all, you're either missing the point i made or ignoring/deflecting so as not to deal with it.
Most likely the latter.

All i'm saying is, if you have no problem claiming victory for one character who fights another in a team fight, or fights a weakened character, then calling foul when talking about a different character is hypocritical on your part.

Originally posted by Kazenji
The Thing "Has" only beaten Hulk under special conditions

so i don't know why your huffing & puffing about this riv66.
And i dont know you at all, so i'm not going to spend time explaining my conversation with abhi.
You can catch yourself up easily enough if you care to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you don't have any scan of Namor vs Thing fights where Thing has KOED him, right? Gotcha.

I no longer have scans in this computer, I ask you a question out of intellectual honesty to have an argument with you and you reply with a line like this. I know people give you a hard time often so I don't take it personally, but I'd appreciate if you didn't think I'm just trying to taunt you.

You came saying that Namor was a pushover now, so maybe you consider that it wouldn't matter if Thing punked him. Would you change your stance on this battle if Thing actually defeated Namor in a fair battle? Because if you wouldn't I'm not going to waste my time bringing that proof, since Namor isn't featured in this thread.

For the benefit of the people in this thread I should gather some showings for Thing one way or another, but if nobody is waiting for my reply then I can take my sweet time like the lazy poster I am

Originally posted by Bentley
I no longer have scans in this computer, I ask you a question out of intellectual honesty to have an argument with you and you reply with a line like this. I know people give you a hard time often so I don't take it personally, but I'd appreciate if you didn't think I'm just trying to taunt you.

You came saying that Namor was a pushover now, so maybe you consider that it wouldn't matter if Thing punked him. Would you change your stance on this battle if Thing actually defeated Namor in a fair battle? Because if you wouldn't I'm not going to waste my time bringing that proof, since Namor isn't featured in this thread.

For the benefit of the people in this thread I should gather some showings for Thing one way or another, but if nobody is waiting for my reply then I can take my sweet time like the lazy poster I am
I know everyone of Thing vs Namor battles so I know what you'll bring up. But sure, if you can show me a fight where Thing has KOED Namor, I'll change my stance and give it a split between these two.Originally posted by riv6672
Not at all, you're either missing the point i made or ignoring/deflecting so as not to deal with it.
Most likely the latter.

All i'm saying is, if you have no problem claiming victory for one character who fights another in a team fight, or fights a weakened character, then calling foul when talking about a different character is hypocritical on your part.


And i dont know you at all, so i'm not going to spend time explaining my conversation with abhi.
You can catch yourself up easily enough if you care to.
So what instances are those? Thread and page please.

As it is, its just empty talk from you.

http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/04/hulk-vs-thing.html?m=1

This should clear up thing and hulks fights. He breaks down every match with scans and unbiased narrative

Originally posted by Sin I AM
http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/04/hulk-vs-thing.html?m=1

This should clear up thing and hulks fights. He breaks down every match with scans and unbiased narrative
What? That site is absolute shite.

The guy forces this ridiculous "middle ground fallacy" on every single matchup.

That, and his tally count is retarded

Originally posted by krisblaze
What? That site is absolute shite.

The guy forces this ridiculous "middle ground fallacy" on every single matchup.

That, and his tally count is retarded

Meh his summary seemed unbiased to me. Also he backed up his over view with scenes and context. I don't see your gripe

Originally posted by Sin I AM
http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/04/hulk-vs-thing.html?m=1

This should clear up thing and hulks fights. He breaks down every match with scans and unbiased narrative
That site is completely shit. The guy counts Captain Marvel KOing Earth-2 Superman when he was a lot weaker than real Superman as a win because apparently every superman in every reality has the same power level or some shit.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Meh his summary seemed unbiased to me. Also he backed up his over view with scenes and context. I don't see your gripe
He'll use SOME versions with different powersets, but not all.

He'll tally wins mid-fight if the opponent is knocked far enough away, even if the opponent can and does return immediately.

He'll tally some wins to character if they achieve their goal, even if said goal has nothing to do with winning the fight.

He accounts for characters holding back some of the time, but not all.

He'll tally wins against characters who are depowered.

He'll tally wins in cases where it's a team vs 1 character.

And through all of this he is generally inconsistent.

And like I said, you only think he's unbiased because he presents his argument as the middle ground between two extremes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

Originally posted by abhilegend
That site is completely shit. The guy counts Captain Marvel KOing Earth-2 Superman when he was a lot weaker than real Superman as a win because apparently every superman in every reality has the same power level or some shit.

Like i said in the hulk vs thing breakdowns, his summaries are unbiased and have backing. He even states how most "wins" in things favor are simply technicalities as he had help. Not seeing a gripe here.

Ben wins.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Like i said in the hulk vs thing breakdowns, his summaries are unbiased and have backing. He even states how most "wins" in things favor are simply technicalities as he had help. Not seeing a gripe here.

I've read that site, Thing's battles listed at wins should be stalemates for the most part.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Meh his summary seemed unbiased to me. Also he backed up his over view with scenes and context. I don't see your gripe
abhi's winners must CRUSH their enemies, so he can vicariously see them driven before him, and hear the lamentation of their women.
THAT is best in a fanboy's life.

Thing is stronger now than he was in the past. He wins this imo

Originally posted by Sin I AM
http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/04/hulk-vs-thing.html?m=1

This should clear up thing and hulks fights. He breaks down every match with scans and unbiased narrative


You beat me to it... I was going to post this site The only reason abhi doesn't like the site is because it doesn't fit his narrative.

And as far as Ben's strength how about this one...

http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_thing.html

Tony, knocking down Hulk just means you're boa level.

Koing Namor >>> koing Hulk

^haha

Good link, too!

Originally posted by Tony Stark
You beat me to it... I was going to post this site The only reason abhi doesn't like the site is because it doesn't fit his narrative.

And as far as Ben's strength how about this one...

http://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/ff_thing.html
No, I don't like that site because its biased as hell.Originally posted by Bentley
Tony, knocking down Hulk just means you're boa level.

Koing Namor >>> koing Hulk
You've yet to show me Thing KOing Namor.

mmm

Thing and Namor, sitting in a tree.

K.I.S.S.I.N.G.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/103530/2389212-8.png

Angy makeup hate sex. The best kind.

Originally posted by riv6672

And i dont know you at all, so i'm not going to spend time explaining my conversation with abhi.
You can catch yourself up easily enough if you care to.

Ehh..i wasn't referring about abhi's rants

what's your proof about Thing having any chance's against Hulk, Without having any special conditions in place.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I don't like that site because its biased as hell.
You've yet to show me Thing KOing Namor.

mmm

Maybe the feat doesn't exist, but at least you give me a fair chance to argue about it!

I'll win this retcon style when Thing koes Namor in about three years

Originally posted by Bentley
Maybe the feat doesn't exist, but at least you give me a fair chance to argue about it!

I'll win this retcon style when Thing koes Namor in about three years

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I don't like that site because its biased as hell.

Abhi, my friend, you realize that in this case, it actually supports what you've been saying regarding the Hulk vs Thing?

Originally posted by Kazenji
Ehh..i wasn't referring about abhi's rants
and yet you referenced hum directly.

what's your proof about Thing having any chance's against Hulk, Without having any special conditions in place.
if the arguments made and examples given havent done for you, i dont feel inclined to try and change your mind. Again, dont know you, though you come across as someone i'm okay with having that status.

Originally posted by zopzop
Abhi, my friend, you realize that in this case, it actually supports what you've been saying regarding the Hulk vs Thing?
About? Its just using some random examples and leaves out the fights where Hulk has actually oneshotted Thing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
About? Its just using some random examples and leaves out the fights where Hulk has actually oneshotted Thing.
About Thing never beating Hulk without help.

Originally posted by zopzop
About Thing never beating Hulk without help.
He got that right. I'll give him that.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Scans please...


Stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill waiting...

Originally posted by Stoic
Ben actually won his first fight with the Hulk, from what I remember.
well he did if you consider someone else coming in and knocking out the hulk with a cheapshot

Originally posted by Bentley
Tony, knocking down Hulk just means you're boa level.

Koing Namor >>> koing Hulk

Koing Namor = Old man with metal pipe

Any boa > Old man

Originally posted by abhilegend
He does because Samson has beaten him in the past. Not because I say so.



STILL awaiting the scans

Wow, Tony Stark, you actually return to threads! You must be super confident this time, unlike all the other threads where you post once and never return...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wow, Tony Stark, you actually return to threads! You must be super confident this time, unlike all the other threads where you post once and never return...

You and your Tony Stark stalking.

Its an obsession.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wow, Tony Stark, you actually return to threads! You must be super confident this time, unlike all the other threads where you post once and never return...


Fortunately or unfortunately I don't have much more time available to do much more than check in every other day. To see how much bullsh!t is flying that needs to corrected.

And I've never seen ANY fight between the two.