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Who wins ?

No brainer, surely?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No brainer, surely?

It is.







































































































Invisible woman stomps estahuh

Doom should, though they just made her win for some reason.

Yeah, in an actual comic I doubt the writers would ever let Doom win this fight. But take out CIS/PIS Doom should be really able to win a solid majority.

Didn't this fight happen recently?....Sue won.

WWMS?

(What would Mindset say?)

Dr. Doom. He took down Sentry for a moment.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Dr. Doom. He took down Sentry for a moment.

I don't recall that. i recall Bob breaking through his defenses in less than 5 seconds. Doom placed himself in mortal danger by messing with Bob on a metaphysical level. it was a good idea for his to give up that avenue of attack.

CIS off? Sue can beat a lot of people. Her powers could literally push a characters brain out of their ears, and nose before the battle ever becomes serious.

Dr. Doom cut off Sentry's head. It stopped him for a moment anyhow. It was more than anyone else was capable of at the time.

Originally posted by Stoic
I don't recall that. i recall Bob breaking through his defenses in less than 5 seconds. Doom placed himself in mortal danger by messing with Bob on a metaphysical level. it was a good idea for his to give up that avenue of attack.

CIS off? Sue can beat a lot of people. Her powers could literally push a characters brain out of their ears, and nose before the battle ever becomes serious.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Dr. Doom cut off Sentry's head. It stopped him for a moment anyhow. It was more than anyone else was capable of at the time.

As far as I know there has never been any such incident.

Only time Doom has affected Sentry that bad was when he used a spirit reversal spell on him. Which risked unleashing the Void, which was why it affected him that bad. (which is what Stoic was speaking of I believe)

(Taken from the respect thread.)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179423-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179424-2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179425-3.jpg

Doom has never decapitated Robert though.

In fact it's generally Sentry giving the beating to Doom. Whether it's ripping his mask off or bursting through his magical protections.

Actually Morgan Le Fay was allied to Dr. Doom's at the time Dr. Doom cut off his head.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Actually Morgan Le Fay was allied to Dr. Doom's at the time Dr. Doom cut off his head.

Okay, could you care to show me scans of this happening?. I have never once seen this if it's true.

I mean Morgana has been decapitated by Sentry but that's about it.

I really have no recollection of such a thing happening if it ever did. (not calling you a liar just stating I have never heard or seen it before.)

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
As far as I know there has never been any such incident.

Only time Doom has affected Sentry that bad was when he used a spirit reversal spell on him. Which risked unleashing the Void, which was why it affected him that bad. (which is what Stoic was speaking of I believe)

(Taken from the respect thread.)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179423-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179424-2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179425-3.jpg

Doom has never decapitated Robert though.

In fact it's generally Sentry giving the beating to Doom. Whether it's ripping his mask off or bursting through his magical protections.

Yes that was what I was referencing. I don't recall, or know of any time that Doom severed Bob's head?

I don't have scans or I'd show you. I don't even have the old comic books I used to have or I'd look it up for you. Needless to say it didn't kill Sentry only bought Dr. Doom time to survive against him.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
As far as I know there has never been any such incident.

Only time Doom has affected Sentry that bad was when he used a spirit reversal spell on him. Which risked unleashing the Void, which was why it affected him that bad. (which is what Stoic was speaking of I believe)

(Taken from the respect thread.)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179423-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179424-2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179425-3.jpg

Doom has never decapitated Robert though.

In fact it's generally Sentry giving the beating to Doom. Whether it's ripping his mask off or bursting through his magical protections. Generally?

You act like they've had a lot of fights.

Also, the times you mentioned were when Doom was fighting other people and Sentry caught him unaware.

As for this thread, Doom flays IW and wears her skin.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yes that was what I was referencing. I don't recall, or know of any time that Doom severed Bob's head?

Yeah exactly I have no visual recollection of such a thing ever happening. As far as I know Bob has never been decapitated by anyone (unless you count UA #15 as one)

It may be a mix up with Morgana Le Fay being beheaded or something.

Originally posted by Mindset
Generally?

You act like they've had a lot of fights.

Also, the times you mentioned were when Doom was fighting other people and Sentry caught him unaware.

I'm using generally in the context that in the the times they have clashed Sentry has generally delivered the victory. Didn't mean in terms of how many fights more of a display of how domineering they were when they engaged in one.

Sure he may have been caught out once but in all honesty I don't believe it would make much difference either. Sentry didn't directly engage in a fight with him more than just walking through his force fields. Even if he had been focused on him I don't see Doom stopping him in any way.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I'm using generally in the context that in the the times they have clashed Sentry has generally delivered the victory. Didn't mean in terms of how many fights more of a display of how domineering they were when they engaged in one. So the 2 times when Sentry attacked Doom while Doom was fighting other people.

OK.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
I don't have scans or I'd show you. I don't even have the old comic books I used to have or I'd look it up for you. Needless to say it didn't kill Sentry only bought Dr. Doom time to survive against him.

I know that Bob pulled Morgana's head off like he was picking grapes, but I'm not sure about Doom getting the best of Bob. You may be correct, I just have no recollection of the event. Even so, Sue has a different power set than Bob. She's nowhere near as powerful, as I'm sure many people will agree, however she may not need to be. like I said, her powers make her truly dangerous if she were ever willing to go for broke.

Well I have no doubt that it was Sentry beheaded. Like I said though...now that I think about it Dr. Doom had to have Morgan Le Fay's help so it wasn't one on one.

If you like images though I also saw the image of Gladiator ripping a medium sun in half with his bare hands. I can't find that one either but it's out there.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
If you like images though I also saw the image of Gladiator ripping a medium sun in half with his bare hands. I can't find that one either but it's out there.

Originally posted by Mindset
So the 2 times when Sentry attacked Doom while Doom was fighting other people.

OK.

I added more after you quoted me.

Like I was saying there was time he bursted through his force field when no one was distracting him besides from Iron Man who he had on the ropes and Doom saw him coming anyway.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179419-3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179420-4.jpg

Then you have this occasion which I fully am in agreement with you he was distracted but walking through his forcefield in that way is still a good feat regardless of him being distracted.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179421-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179422-2.jpg

You use the term distracted very loosely. It allows you to cover Doom's misgivings when in fact one occasion while he may have been distracted briefly by Tony it's hardly washing away a feat liek you profess it does so.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
If you like images though I also saw the image of Gladiator ripping a medium sun in half with his bare hands. I can't find that one either but it's out there.

I'm just having a calm debate and you seem to be acting sarcastic with me. As far as I know Sentry has never been decapitated by Doom. I politely asked you to find the scans and you said you couldn't find them which is fine but I don't see the need for the sarcasm.

It's all well and good to chuck out things you have seen but without the scan the point is moot. I have always said I am 100% happy to concede if I am proved wrong but as of yet no evidence has been shown otherwise.

Regardless though of whatever we think about other matters I agree with Mindset that generally Doom should win given his feats.

(Apologies to eaebiakuya for taking the thread off topic.)

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I added more after you quoted me.

Like I was saying there was time he bursted through his force field when no one was distracting him besides from Iron Man who he had on the ropes and Doom saw him coming anyway.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179419-3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179420-4.jpg

Then you have this occasion which I fully am in agreement with you he was distracted but walking through his forcefield in that way is still a good feat regardless of him being distracted.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179421-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/116291/2179422-2.jpg

You use the term distracted very loosely. It allows you to cover Doom's misgivings when in fact one occasion while he may have been distracted briefly by Tony it's hardly washing away a feat liek you profess it does so. Lol, no, the term distracted has a pretty clear and distinct meaning.

When Doom actually engaged Sentry, he was writhing in pain.

Doom's shields were pathetic in those issues, as were Tony's, for that matter, but I'll give Sentry credit in breaking them so easily.

Originally posted by Mindset
Lol, no, the term distracted has a pretty clear and distinct meaning.

When Doom actually engaged Sentry, he was writhing in pain.

Doom's shields were pathetic in those issues, as were Tony's, for that matter, but I'll give Sentry credit in breaking them so easily.

Ah okay then, you mean the scan I posted on the first page right? (where he casted the Spirit Reversal Spell on him) where he states Bob isn't a well man.

With distracted perhaps I should clarify what I meant. On one occasion I fully understood your point. Doom was being attacked from all ends so obviously he was distracted. But my problem was the other time he was distracted but nowhere near the same way as he was the other time. But as you mentioned it's okay to give Sentry credit.

So I guess for the most part we agree. I just jumble up my words a bit sometimes, sorry for that.

Oh it must have been Morgan Le Fay that decapitated Sentry.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Oh it must have been Morgan Le Fay that decapitated Sentry.

Like I was saying before I honestly have no recollection of such an incident.

Sentry has decapitated Morgana

http://i.imgur.com/nWI9OSnl.jpg


But Morgana did do this.

http://i.imgur.com/tbyVqFal.jpg

It was either Dr. Doom or Morgan Le Fay that decapitated him.