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No bfring. Who wins?

SBP psycho stomps

Classic Mangog wins

Originally posted by carver9
No bfring. Who wins?

The answer is not Mangog.

SMP Will make Mangog stronger period. SA Mangog wins

Originally posted by the Darkone
SMP Will make Mangog stronger period. SA Mangog wins

Proof?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Proof?

He feeds on negative emotions, and this makes him stronger than he already is. He's Marvel's Validus sort of.

Prime.

SA MAngog feeds on hatred, physical and energy attacks also plus is legit High Sky father level in power defeating SA Odin.

Originally posted by the Darkone
SA MAngog feeds on hatred, physical and energy attacks also plus is legit High Sky father level in power defeating SA Odin.

This ^

Originally posted by Stoic
He feeds on negative emotions, and this makes him stronger than he already is. He's Marvel's Validus sort of.

Yes but long enough to feed on those before Prime takes he head off?

Originally posted by Stoic
He feeds on negative emotions, and this makes him stronger than he already is. He's Marvel's Validus sort of. What's shown>>>>>what's said.

Mangog never got significantly stronger his whole career. So either he doesn't get stronger or he gains a ton an hour.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes but long enough to feed on those before Prime takes he head off?

Sorry no,Mangog feeds on hatred through out the universe plus physical and energy contact, basically he is avatar of hate. SMP would be feeding SA Mangog with his own, i took Odin killing himself to defeat SA Mangog. andSMP doesn't have that ability in his arsenal he is phucked

Originally posted by the Darkone
Sorry no,Mangog feeds on hatred through out the universe plus physical and energy contact, basically he is avatar of hate. SMP would be feeding SA Mangog with his own, i took Odin killing himself to defeat SA Mangog. andSMP doesn't have that ability in his arsenal he is phucked

Odin neither has the physical strength or speed of SBP. Magog would be crushed by a reality punch and be broken.

Just to throw this into the debate, if we're going by the statements, SBP is immune to magic....

Originally posted by the Darkone
Sorry no,Mangog feeds on hatred through out the universe plus physical and energy contact, basically he is avatar of hate. SMP would be feeding SA Mangog with his own, i took Odin killing himself to defeat SA Mangog. andSMP doesn't have that ability in his arsenal he is phucked per comics Mangog never got significantly stronger in his battles, assuming he feeds off hate. if he fed off hate then hate supplied him with meager extra power over time.

So that's a non factor.

Anyway, Mangog is not strong enough to significantly harm SBP. He has no showings displaying physical power output sufficient to ko heralds in a few strikes or less. If you disagree then kindly show his top displays of physical power output.
Now is durability is nothing to laugh at, but considering SBP strength feats and power output of his hv them SBP is more than capable of harming Mangog.
Adding in the fact that SBP is significantly faster with reflexes, better mobility with flight, bfr options, then SBP stomps.

Classic Mangog's being undersold here, imo.

Thor's best hammer strikes are, what, planet busting? Especially back in the silver age. And back then, he was doing crazy stuff like damaging Celestial armor.

And Mangog tanked a barrage of them. Claimed they may as well have been snowflakes falling on his skin.

Conversely, SBP was tickled by a bloodlusted Black Adam a few months after WW3.....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Conversely, SBP was tickled by a bloodlusted Black Adam a few months after WW3.....

Hey even a good tickle is good once in a while.

Originally posted by cdtm
Classic Mangog's being undersold here, imo.

Thor's best hammer strikes are, what, planet busting? Especially back in the silver age. And back then, he was doing crazy stuff like damaging Celestial armor.

And Mangog tanked a barrage of them. Claimed they may as well have been snowflakes falling on his skin. you can't equate a characters high showings as the same level they were performing in every other comic.

Thor has never busted a planet back then, not even came close to that.

We have nothing to go on about how durable Celestial armor is against physical force except they have been penetrated several times.
Also, pressure = force / area (that's the reason why sharp objects penetrate better than blunt objects).

Exitar was huge in comparison to Thor's hammer. That means Thor's hammer was sharp and provided cutting (stabbing) force.

Finally, Thor spent plenty of time whirling and building up the speed of Mjolnir before he struck Exitar. He did no such thing to Mangog.

With that said, we can assume, at best, that Mangog was able to resist average Thor and not a high end one. I actually want to say a low end one because that Thor was koed by the ground when we fell off Mangog's back.

The biggest problem in this fight is not Mangog's durability, but his strength. He was fairly weak in comparison to the strongest high heralds. He never showed impressive strength in his entire career. People are equating his durability with his strength.

Mangog is on another level just altogether, SA Mangog is force a nature. SA Odin would sh!! Stomp SMP

Originally posted by the Darkone
Mangog is on another level just altogether, SA Mangog is force a nature. SA Odin would sh!! Stomp SMP

And Squirrel girl beat Thanos once, and?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
And Squirrel girl beat Thanos once, and?

Wait.

Are you comparing the 'fight' between Odin and Mangog to Squirrel Girl and Thanos?

Originally posted by krisblaze
Wait.

Are you comparing the 'fight' between Odin and Mangog to Squirrel Girl and Thanos?

No I'm jacking with him cause he's implying feats of Mangog that never happened.

SA Mangog defeated SA Odin straight up, hell Odin had to remove all Asgard out of its own diminsion from SA Mangog so he wouldn't teac the Odin sword

Originally posted by the Darkone
SA Mangog defeated SA Odin straight up, hell Odin had to remove all Asgard out of its own diminsion from SA Mangog so he wouldn't teac the Odin sword no he didn't. He defeated a powerless Odin.

In actual comic showings, Mangog was very weak. Failing to ko Thor after long battles, etc. absolutely no great strength feats, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
no he didn't. He defeated a powerless Odin.

In actual comic showings, Mangog was very weak. Failing to ko Thor after long battles, etc. absolutely no great strength feats, etc.

Thor was knocked out, he just didn't die...

Hell, Infinity Odin's attacks didn't outright kill him, this doesn't mean that universe-destroying Odin is somehow less than the destroyer that killed Thor...

Originally posted by cdtm
Classic Mangog's being undersold here, imo.

Thor's best hammer strikes are, what, planet busting? Especially back in the silver age. And back then, he was doing crazy stuff like damaging Celestial armor.

And Mangog tanked a barrage of them. Claimed they may as well have been snowflakes falling on his skin. Thor said Hyperion hit harder than mangog if we go by that route under the same writer.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Thor was knocked out, he just didn't die...

Hell, Infinity Odin's attacks didn't outright kill him, this doesn't mean that universe-destroying Odin is somehow less than the destroyer that killed Thor... Odin is not universe-destroying or Galaxy destroying on average. Not even 1% of it. On average I would say he's between continent destroying to small moon destroying.

I'm not questioning Mangog's durability but his strength (which is pathetic).

Mangog didn't knock Thor out in a few hits or less. Thor got koed from falling to the ground. Basically the ground koed him. And guess what? Falling from 20feet from the air killed many Asgardians. Everyone was jobbing in that arc. Everyone was displayed as human level beings (even Odin, who was depowered).

Proof that Mangog was slightly stronger than Thor
1. Mangog hits back Mjolnir EQUAL to strength of Thor's right arm.
2. Mangog fails to ko Thor in a few hits or less.
3. Mangog has no strength feats above Thor's.

Mangog all day. Lots of feats and statements being ignored here.
As a matter of fact, truth is that Mangog doesn"t ONLY gain power from negative emotions throughout the universe. It was also shown he gained power from the positive adoration of the inhabitants of Asgard while impersonating Odin.

And magic doesn't affect Prime....

Superboy Prime wins.

Prime wins.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And magic doesn't affect Prime....
First of all, "yes", magic will effect SBP, if it is coming in the form of a giant yellow fist.

Second, it was implied that Mangog was created through Odin's magic, but never implied that Mangog emplys magic. As far as we know, his powers are sourced from the inherent attributes of his race, multiplied by a "billion billion".

Remember, his race had destroyed galaxies and was about to destroy Asgard. So, we know Mangog's race was definitely NOT just similar to the Kree, Skrulls, etc. They were much more.

The only true limitation ever evident in Mangog, was his simplicity and lack of creative use of his power.

Originally posted by Horrificus
First of all, "yes", magic will effect SBP, if it is coming in the form of a giant yellow fist.

Second, it was implied that Mangog was created through Odin's magic, but never implied that Mangog emplys magic. As far as we know, his powers are sourced from the inherent attributes of his race, multiplied by a "billion billion".

Remember, his race had destroyed galaxies and was about to destroy Asgard. So, we know Mangog's race was definitely NOT just similar to the Kree, Skrulls, etc. They were much more.

The only true limitation ever evident in Mangog, was his simplicity and lack of creative use of his power.

Black Adam's fists tickled him. We all know how strong HE was.

Zauriel's sword, created by the Presence, flat-out didn't work on him.

Mangog is as magical as Mjolnir, and Thor. His powers are sourced from negative emotions, and magically turned into strength/durability etc.

Yeah, it seems to me like Black Adam would beat Mangog here. And SBP literally said that his magic infused punches "tickle", after he tanked like 10 of them to the face. This was a bloodlusted Black Adam btw, that was able to turn the Spectre into metaphorical Swiss cheese, with similarly magical enhanced physical attacks.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Mangog all day. Lots of feats and statements being ignored here.
As a matter of fact, truth is that Mangog doesn"t ONLY gain power from negative emotions throughout the universe. It was also shown he gained power from the positive adoration of the inhabitants of Asgard while impersonating Odin. But at what rate? A ton of extra strength per hour? Mangog has never shown a significant increase in strength in all his battles. So either he doesn't get stronger from negative emotions (showings>>>>statements) or the growth rate is slow.

We go by feats and not no limits fallacy. Sbp strength feats exceeds Mangog durability feats.

Man oh man, when will your lowballing of Clearly powerful characters cease?

Mangog sits comfortably above herald level strength to the point of casually crushing them in "combat" (See: Wolf mauling Rabbit). He doesn't have to increase his strength in his showings unless it's like Odin or something.

Idunno who wins but I'm more interested in how you're still the absolute worst

SA Mangog wins.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Man oh man, when will your lowballing of Clearly powerful characters cease?

Mangog sits comfortably above herald level strength to the point of casually crushing them in "combat" (See: Wolf mauling Rabbit). He doesn't have to increase his strength in his showings unless it's like Odin or something.

Idunno who wins but I'm more interested in how you're still the absolute worst Well then that means that Superman isn't a Herald level being but above. The strongest thing Mangog ever done was damage a mountain. That's not planetary. Hell Bor is a lot stronger since he can kill normal Thor with a single blow. Mangog can't do such things.

Superman is stronger by feats. So if Mangog is stronger than all heralds then Superman has above Herald strength. We go by feats.

P.S. Lowballing is listing low showings as a representative of a character's forum level. I didn't list any low showing by Mangog but im considering only his best. Using his absolute best feats of strength then he is not even an insect to prime.
Implied power that actually contradicts showings hold no water.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Proof? Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Proof? i think superboy will win here

Mangog

Originally posted by naurtoisbeast
i think superboy will win here

Me too buddy