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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Do Jihadists have a point?

Jihadists rebel because they see God reward Satan for rebellion.


Wut?

Yes Jihadists have a point. Usually that point is being stuck into some decadent westerner's throat.

If I could talk to the leadership of one of these jihadist groups, I'd like to ask them what their end game is. If they got everything they wanted, what would that be and what would the world look like? Worldwide Muslim worship, without exception? Or just domination of their region with an iron curtain to guard against western influence?

The jihadists want power, plain and simple, to pathologically over-compensate for their deep-rooted fears of being unimportant. That I.S. is religion is B.S.

Humans crave power, and religionism ("God's on my side" is the ultimate power project.

What Abu Bakr established is a cult.
It is no different to the Westboro Baptist Church, Peoples Church, Ang Dating Daan, etc.

The Islamic State actually believes Abu Baker is a descendant of Muhammad.

All I see is a lunatic with a Messiah complex.

Pertaining to your question, the purpose of Jihadists is to spread fear and hate towards people who are non-Muslims.
I guess if you were born a Muslim or converted to Islam, and somehow became influenced by these extremists, then you would feel the same as these freaks. That is, that you are right and everyone in the world is wrong.

The charitable explanation is that they want the freedom to so whatever they want in their own region, without western influence. Except when they go as far as to kill other people (in huge numbers) who won't submit to their absolutism, their determination to send the rights of women back hundreds of years - that is why we intervene.

Originally posted by roughrider
The charitable explanation is that they want the freedom to so whatever they want in their own region, without western influence. Except when they go as far as to kill other people (in huge numbers) who won't submit to their absolutism, their determination to send the rights of women back hundreds of years - that is why we intervene.
It isn't anti-Westernism, it's anti-anythingthatisn'tourharshinterpretationofIslamism

No,Absolutely not and in the name of God they are going murders.. They don't have right to kill anyone.

Originally posted by roughrider
If I could talk to the leadership of one of these jihadist groups, I'd like to ask them what their end game is. If they got everything they wanted, what would that be and what would the world look like? Worldwide Muslim worship, without exception? Or just domination of their region with an iron curtain to guard against western influence?

I agree that we should be talking to them. That is partly why I put the question. So far all I get are Westerners who think they are right and that the East is wrong, but neither sis is giving any decent argument or reasons.

That is why I begin to think that both sides are being funded by the same guy. That would make this a U.S. black op.

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DL

Originally posted by Mindship
The jihadists want power, plain and simple, to pathologically over-compensate for their deep-rooted fears of being unimportant. That I.S. is religion is B.S.

Humans crave power, and religionism ("God's on my side" is the ultimate power project.

I do not buy it. If I want power I will start small and quiet. I will not take on the U.S. unless I am being run by them and my safety is assured.

Who is funding I.S. and why is the West ignoring them?

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DL

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
What Abu Bakr established is a cult.
It is no different to the Westboro Baptist Church, Peoples Church, Ang Dating Daan, etc.

The Islamic State actually believes Abu Baker is a descendant of Muhammad.

All I see is a lunatic with a Messiah complex.

Pertaining to your question, the purpose of Jihadists is to spread fear and hate towards people who are non-Muslims.
I guess if you were born a Muslim or converted to Islam, and somehow became influenced by these extremists, then you would feel the same as these freaks. That is, that you are right and everyone in the world is wrong.

As I showed with that clip on Christianity, they have learned well from the West.

Muslims may just want to show that they can be as evil as Christianity was.

They have a ways to go.

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DL

Originally posted by roughrider
The charitable explanation is that they want the freedom to so whatever they want in their own region, without western influence. Except when they go as far as to kill other people (in huge numbers) who won't submit to their absolutism, their determination to send the rights of women back hundreds of years - that is why we intervene.

We have yet, thanks basically to Christianity, to give our women equality as well. We do give better lip service though. You will know that in pay scale, women are at about 70% of what men get.

We are progressing though so that aside, I agree that Islam wants to put women right out of the equality game.

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DL

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It isn't anti-Westernism, it's anti-anythingthatisn'tourharshinterpretationofIslamism

Not to get into psychology but it is known that the harder we push to the left, the more will go to the right because of insecurity.

Look at what is happening to the U.S. for proof of this. The middle is moving left but enough of their members are pushed to insecurity, and moving right and that is why the evangelical right is the only religions growing.

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DL

Originally posted by sureshpulihora
No,Absolutely not and in the name of God they are going murders.. They don't have right to kill anyone.

They see the U.S., thanks to Bush, as doing what they are doing. They follow and are reacting to us.

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DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
I do not buy it. If I want power I will start small and quiet. I will not take on the U.S. unless I am being run by them and my safety is assured.

Who is funding I.S. and why is the West ignoring them?

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DL They probably did start small, small groups over time coalescing into larger and larger ones. It must've been very uplifting, very self-inspiring. And given that the human ego is spring-loaded for swell-headedness, it doesn't take much power, even in the beginning, for a person to start seeing him/herself as superior to others, perhaps even on some sort of "mission from God", the supreme power broker.

Thanks for responding .

Originally posted by Mindship
They probably did start small, small groups over time coalescing into larger and larger ones. It must've been very uplifting, very self-inspiring. And given that the human ego is spring-loaded for swell-headedness, it doesn't take much power, even in the beginning, for a person to start seeing him/herself as superior to others, perhaps even on some sort of "mission from God", the supreme power broker.

Thanks for responding .

My pleasure.

I can appreciate swollen headedness but my statement stand as I think, regardless of how swollen their leadership heads are, they will not put them where we can cut them off unless they think they are well protected. Perhaps just like Ben Laden.

http://www.heliofant.com/

There may have been a good reason for the --- bring him in dead --- order.

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DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
...they will not put them where we can cut them off unless they think they are well protected.Intelligence is power.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
http://www.heliofant.com/Trippy, man, every time I've seen it.

Thanks for this. I too like the imagery and prediction.

Soonest would be best. If only it were forecasting reality.

Oh well.

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DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
I too like the imagery and prediction.
The visual presentation is magnificent.

jihadists have a point but so did hitler.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
jihadists have a point but so did hitler.

No argument.

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DL