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Who wins?

Namor after a good fight.

Namor

Damn close but Im liking Namor for this

Seems we have a consensus, colossus has a few advantages(durability and maybe strength) but it seems that is not enough.

Namor has more true battle experience, while Petey is a Danger Room Veteran. It would be close, because i think Pete has a slight strength, and large durability advantage. Namor has greater agility, combat expertise, and can fly. I would pick Peter if he fought as well as Wolverine.

Its Piotr. Id go with Namor. I honestly don't think Piotr is stronger than Namor. I also recall Namor enduring an attack that incapacitated Piotr in an Xmen series. Pretty cut and dry decision if you ask me. After a good match of course.

I'd actually give Colossus the experience advantage.

Namor has a good 50 years on him, but the x-men do several hours in the danger room every single day. It's just not feasible for Namor to rack up as many in-combat hours as Colossus.

That said I don't think amounts to much of a skill difference, as so much of it is team-work based and Namor's always been more proficient when he's fighting on his own.

In the end I think this just boils down to Namor being stronger and more durable, even if it's just a little bit

Namor
Colossus just possesses the strength skill

Dam my boy namor went from trashing the hulk and fan 4 to barley beating weak ass colossus😐 fck marvel power up namor

Originally posted by krisblaze
I'd actually give Colossus the experience advantage.

Namor has a good 50 years on him, but the x-men do several hours in the danger room every single day. It's just not feasible for Namor to rack up as many in-combat hours as Colossus.

O_o ??

With the time Slide (based on the fact Piotr is still only in his late 20's 30's) of all comics fiction he could spend 24 hrs a day in the danger room for most of his adult life and still not match Namor in experience.

Namor was after all a combatant in WWII where for 5 years he fought probably 3 times longer a day then anything Piotr has done in a danger room. Since he hasn't even lived with his power for three times as long as Namor fought in WWII then he cannot possibly be more experienced in battle.

Namor takes it.
Faster (by quite a bit). almost as durable, close if not above in strength (this is a guy who has matched a moderately angry hulk and gone toe to toe with Thor).

Originally posted by thingy150
Seems we have a consensus, colossus has a few advantages(durability and maybe strength) but it seems that is not enough. Originally posted by krisblaze
I'd actually give Colossus the experience advantage.

Namor has a good 50 years on him, but the x-men do several hours in the danger room every single day. It's just not feasible for Namor to rack up as many in-combat hours as Colossus.

That said I don't think amounts to much of a skill difference, as so much of it is team-work based and Namor's always been more proficient when he's fighting on his own.

In the end I think this just boils down to Namor being stronger and more durable, even if it's just a little bit
Wut? Namor would ****ing wreck Colossus. Just check how entire X-men team did against Marinna and how easily Namor dispatched her.

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Namor fights the likes of Sentry, Thor and Hulk. Colossus gets overpowered by Gargan Venom in the very same story where Namor fought sentry.

mmm

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Namor wins. He is stronger.

Originally posted by beatboks
O_o ??

With the time Slide (based on the fact Piotr is still only in his late 20's 30's) of all comics fiction he could spend 24 hrs a day in the danger room for most of his adult life and still not match Namor in experience.

Namor was after all a combatant in WWII where for 5 years he fought probably 3 times longer a day then anything Piotr has done in a danger room. Since he hasn't even lived with his power for three times as long as Namor fought in WWII then he cannot possibly be more experienced in battle.

Namor takes it.
Faster (by quite a bit). almost as durable, close if not above in strength (this is a guy who has matched a moderately angry hulk and gone toe to toe with Thor).
With the time slide only a few years would have passed for Namor as well.

You should read up on Colossus if you never think he's fought more than 3 times in one day

Lol@ experience being a factor. These two guys are just bricks, let's not get carried away here....

Have to admit, some of these replies are surprising,. It wasnt long ago that namor was spoken about as if inhabiting that strange gap between the things\colossus' of the world, and the likes of hulk and thor. Almost like aquaman is now...

and now namor is thing/colossus level?

and the thing fight doesnt count.

THE Thing fight? He's had 8 or something.

I agree that Namor is the gap between Thing/Colossus and Thor/Hercules

Originally posted by krisblaze
THE Thing fight? He's had 8 or something.

I agree that Namor is the gap between Thing/Colossus and Thor/Hercules

i should have used uppercase. I was talking about avx and how irs used as a common excuse to bash namor.

AvX was so retarded.

Colossusnaut almost drowned dur

how did he drown?

He was in space ffs

Originally posted by krisblaze
Colossusnaut was so retarded.

Colossusnaut almost drowned dur

Fixed.

I see this going like the War Machine/Colossus fight..

Namor destroys him, even taking into consideration his AvX humiliation.

Namor is FAR stronger, faster, is more experienced and actually more durable. There was an issue of X-Men where they needed someone to tank some strange energy from a portal. Colossus was there, yet they said out of the people present ONLY Namor could endure that punishment.

Proud of you Zop...you're finally backing Namor. Now we just need to work on your Starbrand hate.

Originally posted by zopzop
Namor destroys him, even taking into consideration his AvX humiliation.

Namor is FAR stronger, faster, is more experienced and actually more durable. There was an issue of X-Men where they needed someone to tank some strange energy from a portal. Colossus was there, yet they said out of the people present ONLY Namor could endure that punishment. There was an issue of X-Men where it took one Nimrod Sentinel to take down Namor and 5 or 6 to take down Colossus. You should have seen it man it was awesome.

Originally posted by krisblaze
With the time slide only a few years would have passed for Namor as well.

You should read up on Colossus if you never think he's fought more than 3 times in one day
Time slide doesn't work that way for Namor. He is confirmed to have been present in WWII along with Rogers (prior to Steve being frozen for a couple decades ) time slide would apply to the years since the SA not those confirmed to be from a different era. Also Namor has been around for longer he was there in the SA Piotr on the other hand the broze age.

I also never said he only fought 3 times a day, I said that the number of hours a combatant in war would fight are at least 3 times as much as someone who is training. In war you are fighting every waking hour and your sleep hours are less than normal. So his war years alone give him vastly more experience than Piotr

Originally posted by juggernaut74
There was an issue of X-Men where it took one Nimrod Sentinel to take down Namor and 5 or 6 to take down Colossus. You should have seen it man it was awesome.
Namor was oneshotting Nimrods when they dehydrated him. Context ain't your friend it seems.

WUT? Namor babyshakes. He is stronger and more skilled.

Namor wins at least 8/10

Originally posted by beatboks
Time slide doesn't work that way for Namor. He is confirmed to have been present in WWII along with Rogers (prior to Steve being frozen for a couple decades ) time slide would apply to the years since the SA not those confirmed to be from a different era. Also Namor has been around for longer he was there in the SA Piotr on the other hand the broze age.

I also never said he only fought 3 times a day, I said that the number of hours a combatant in war would fight are at least 3 times as much as someone who is training. In war you are fighting every waking hour and your sleep hours are less than normal. So his war years alone give him vastly more experience than Piotr

the war lasted six years. Colossus has spent over a decade in the danger room alone. Not saying colossus has more experience, but i think the gap is smaller than some would claim.

Not to mention, quality over quantity. Namor fought who? Whereas at laest Colossus would have been challenged every time he stepped into the Danger Room.

Also:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol@ experience being a factor. These two guys are just bricks, let's not get carried away here....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to mention, quality over quantity. Namor fought who? Whereas at laest Colossus would have been challenged every time he stepped into the Danger Room.

Also:

why wouldnt experience be a factor? At least in terms of training and skill.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor was oneshotting Nimrods when they dehydrated him. Context ain't your friend it seems. I don't recall that. You need to provide scans.....if there is any.

Originally posted by -Pr-
why wouldnt experience be a factor? At least in terms of training and skill.

Because their fighting, whilst it involves SOME skill, are of brawlers. After a while, there are only so many permutations of a punch you can throw, or kicks you can do, or headbutts. Like playing noughts and crosses. Experience only takes you so far.

Colossus was busting those same Nimrods up as well.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because their fighting, whilst it involves SOME skill, are of brawlers. After a while, there are only so many permutations of a punch you can throw, or kicks you can do, or headbutts. Like playing noughts and crosses. Experience only takes you so far.

colossus isnt suposed to be some mindless brawlervconsidering his traaining, but its not like writers acknowledge it enough...

Originally posted by -Pr-
colossus isnt suposed to be some mindless brawlervconsidering his traaining, but its not like writers acknowledge it enough...

Fair enough. I just don't see him as a skilled fighter in the same vein as a Daredevil, or even a Thing. Same goes for Namor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough. I just don't see him as a skilled fighter in the same vein as a Daredevil, or even a Thing. Same goes for Namor.

He's no daredevil, but id definitely put him in the same ballpark as thing, personally.

Originally posted by -Pr-
colossus isnt suposed to be some mindless brawlervconsidering his traaining, but its not like writers acknowledge it enough... If anybody is going to resort to brawling it's going to be Namor imo.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I don't recall that. You need to provide scans.....if there is any.
Colossus vs Namor


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Five of them broke Colossus.

Namor vs Nimrods. Namor was fighting three of them at once and five more arrived. He fought them off panel for awhile untill X-men arrived.

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After that he was taken out by a Nimrod who was drying him out.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/66472/1277685-nimrod___namor_1.jpg

Here Beast flat out tells that anyone else than Namor would have died by the portal where Nimrods were coming from.

http://s3d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/21344913_X-Force_27_0014-1.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Colossus was busting those same Nimrods up as well.
One nimrod. Namor was taking the same numbers of Nimrod that literally broke colossus and was beating their asses.


And while Colossus gets his ass handed to him by Gargan Venom, Namor fights sentry and holds his own. That should tell you how vast the strength difference is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
One nimrod. Namor was taking the same numbers of Nimrod that literally broke colossus and was beating their asses.


And while Colossus gets his ass handed to him by Gargan Venom, Namor fights sentry and holds his own. That should tell you how vast the strength difference is.

Agreed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Colossus vs Namor


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Five of them broke Colossus.

Namor vs Nimrods. Namor was fighting three of them at once and five more arrived. He fought them off panel for awhile untill X-men arrived.

http://s3d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/21344910_Uncanny_X-Men_525_0015.jpg http://s3d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/21344911_X-Force_27_0004.jpg http://s3d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/21344912_X-Force_27_0010.jpg

After that he was taken out by a Nimrod who was drying him out.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/66472/1277685-nimrod___namor_1.jpg

Here Beast flat out tells that anyone else than Namor would have died by the portal where Nimrods were coming from.

http://s3d1.turboimagehost.com/t1/21344913_X-Force_27_0014-1.jpg A single one took out Namor tough while it took a team effort of 5 to take down Colossus. I'm not saying Colossus wins or looses but look at how man times Thing has pounded Namor.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
A single one took out Namor tough while it took a team effort of 5 to take down Colossus. I'm not saying Colossus wins or looses but look at how man times Thing has pounded Namor.
Dehydrating Namor when he was kicking their asses is now a weak showing for Namor? Next you would say red sun or kyptonite taking out superman is a weak showing too, right?

Thing? Gargan Venom kicked Colossus' ass while Namor was taking on sentry. Namor ****stomped Gargan and ripped his tongue out. And Thing has an ambigous showing against Namor in AVX. Namor has straight up oneshotted Thing in past for that. Namor is an actual class 100. Just look at his fights with hulk alone.

Savage Hulk vs Namor, from Avengers #3:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor02a.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor rematch, from Tales to Astonish #100:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor04TTA100.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor11.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor again, from Incredible Hulk #118:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor12118.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor13.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor18.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor in a quick tussle, from Sub-Mariner #34:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor19aSub-Mariner34.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor20a.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor once again, from Defenders #52:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor23Defenders52.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor24.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor25.jpg
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor27.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor (original fight retold), from Saga of the Sub-Mariner #8:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor28SagaoftheSubmariner8.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor29.jpg

Savage Hulk (weakened) vs Namor (weakened) in another brief tussle, from Hulk/Sub-Mariner '98:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor30Annual1998.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor31.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor in yet another brawl, from Defenders vol.2 #2:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor32Defendersv22.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor33.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor34.jpg

Savage Hulk vs Namor in another brief rumble, from Defenders vol.3 #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor35Defendersv31.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor36.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor37.jpg

This one is from 2011, the same year as AVX FYI.

Savage Hulk vs Namor once more, from Defenders: From the Marvel Vault #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor38DefendersFromtheMarvelVault1.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor39.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor41.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Fights%20N-S/HulkvsNamor42.jpg

Make all the excuses you want. One Nimrod took down Namor while 5 took down Colossus. They xploited a weakness but it still only took one to do it......

Weakness is the key in that sentence.

Which Colossus can't replicate.

Using purely physical powers, Namor was not beaten whereas Colossus was snapped.

Sugar coat it however you want but it still only took one.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sugar coat it however you want but it still only took one.

I don't see why you're being obtuse. Namor got drained of his main thing that powers him up which is water. So he is badly weakened. What would you be saying if somehow the Nimrod's turned Colossus back into his human form and he got defeated?

Would you be acting the same way as you are now. It's not sugar coating. It's being honest about what happened.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sugar coat it however you want but it still only took one.

Why are you debating like quan?

Colossus and Namor are fighting the same enemy, it took one to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus and Colossus was still ready to fight after the arm break. Namor folded like Kenny Rogers. So defeating Namor was easier for the Nimrods than it was to defeat Colossus.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus and Namor are fighting the same enemy, it took one to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus and Colossus was still ready to fight after the arm break. Namor folded like Kenny Rogers. So defeating Namor was easier for the Nimrods than it was to defeat Colossus.

After he was weakened, which is what you are leaving out.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus and Namor are fighting the same enemy, it took one to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus and Colossus was still ready to fight after the arm break. Namor folded like Kenny Rogers. So defeating Namor was easier for the Nimrods than it was to defeat Colossus.

Not really. At all.

They had to change and adapt to Namor, because physical powers weren't working.

With Colossus, they didn't even need to bother. Fists were enough.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
After he was weakened, which is what you are leaving out. Originally posted by juggernaut74
Make all the excuses you want. One Nimrod took down Namor while 5 took down Colossus. They xploited a weakness but it still only took one to do it......

Weakness is the key in that sentence.

Not really.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Not really.


Look quan, you're missing the point. You're basically arguing that if Superman lost to Kryptonite man and Luke Cage beat KM, that Luke Cage would beat Superman.

Tell me quan, how exactly does that make any sense?

First off.....I never said Colossus would win so that's not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that it took a single Nimrod to take down Namor and 5 to take down Colossus. How can you guys not see that?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
First off.....I never said Colossus would win so that's not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that it took a single Nimrod to take down Namor and 5 to take down Colossus. How can you guys not see that?

What bearing to you believe that has on a Namor vs Colossus fight?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What bearing to you believe that has on a Namor vs Colossus fight? The same bearing the was shown a page or two back where Namor flew off with that giant monster in the ocean. Guess what? Colossus can't that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The same bearing the was shown a page or two back where Namor flew off with that giant monster in the ocean. Guess what? Colossus can't that.

In that scan, Colossus ran away rather than have the monster belly flop on him.

Namor stayed and took it.

So....you're right. Colossus can't do that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The same bearing the was shown a page or two back where Namor flew off with that giant monster in the ocean. Guess what? Colossus can't that.

Was this post supposed to make sense?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Was this post supposed to make sense? Only if you understand. Somebody posted a scan of Namor defeating a sea monster in the ocean but some how that was suppose to show him being superior to Colossus. Colossus cannot fly nor can he swim like Namor.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Only if you understand. Somebody posted a scan of Namor defeating a sea monster in the ocean but some how that was suppose to show him being superior to Colossus. Colossus cannot fly nor can he swim like Namor.

IOW, Colossus would be vulnerable to the same type of tactic, sounds like it was on topic to me.

Now, how exactly are the Nimrod fights on-topic?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Only if you understand. Somebody posted a scan of Namor defeating a sea monster in the ocean but some how that was suppose to show him being superior to Colossus. Colossus cannot fly nor can he swim like Namor.

Nope, the scan was outside of the ocean.

Colossus is scrambling away.

Namor is standing there, waiting for it.

It belly flops onto him, and he takes it like a champ whilst Colossus was cowering, looking on in wonder, envious of his strength and courage.

IOW, superior.

So Namor flying off with a sea monster shows him superior to Colossus? And Namor getting beatdown by one Nimrod to Colossus' 5 shows Namor's superior as well?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So Namor flying off with a sea monster shows him superior to Colossus? And Namor getting beatdown by one Nimrod to Colossus' 5 shows Namor's superior as well?


Namor having flight is an advantage, how exactly does the Nimrod fight so Colossus having an advantage?

BTW it looks as if Namor was wearing his wet suit and still got beatdown by one? Colossus was still ready to fight after getting a broken arm while Namor fell. LOL.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So Namor flying off with a sea monster shows him superior to Colossus? And Namor getting beatdown by one Nimrod to Colossus' 5 shows Namor's superior as well?

No, no, the flying off wasn't (although, technically, it does, as it shows Namor has more powers than Colossus).

I explained it already. Colossus turned tail and ran away. Because he was afraid, and knew he couldn't handle it.

Namor stood there and handled it flopping on him. Up to that point, no flying.

So yes, before he flew away, just using physical strength, he was superior, physically and mentally.

After he flew away, he was superior physically, mentally, and in terms of his power set.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Namor having flight is an advantage, how exactly does the Nimrod fight so Colossus having an advantage?

Well?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Namor having flight is an advantage, how exactly does the Nimrod fight so Colossus having an advantage? Colossus not having to worry about getting weaker is an advantage.......LOL.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus not having to worry about getting weaker is an advantage.......LOL.

Neither does Namor.

I mean, the fight would be so short.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, no, the flying off wasn't (although, technically, it does, as it shows Namor has more powers than Colossus).

. Colossus not having to worry about humidity and such doesn't mean anything? Colossus won't get weaker as the fight progresses.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus not having to worry about getting weaker is an advantage.......LOL.

Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Neither does Namor.

I mean, the fight would be so short. Thing beat Namor in the depths. It won't beat fast.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus not having to worry about humidity and such doesn't mean anything? Colossus won't get weaker as the fight progresses.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Neither does Namor.

I mean, the fight would be so short.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus? Unless there is water around it's always a factor.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Thing beat Namor in the depths. It won't beat fast.

Originally posted by -Pr-


and the thing fight doesnt count.

Too bad....so sad.....

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Unless there is water around it's always a factor.

This takes place in a city, IOW there is water everywhere so again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus?

Sigh...someone post the Colossus vs Thor fight and compare it to Namor vs Thor. That should answer your question.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This takes place in a city, IOW there is water everywhere so again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus? So Namor has to take a time-out? The Nimrods exploited a weakness to defeat Namor......a weakness which Colossus does not have.

Weakness.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...someone post the Colossus vs Thor fight and compare it to Namor vs Thor. That should answer your question. Is that the one where Rogue absorbed Colossus' power?

A weakness that Colossus cannot exploit.

Cannot.

Colossus has a weakness to having his arm snapped.

Weakness.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A weakness that Colossus cannot exploit.

Cannot.

Colossus has a weakness to having his arm snapped.

Weakness. If they are fighting in a city maybe Colossus can get a hair dryer?

BTW why does nobody want to talk about Thing and Luke Cage taking on Namor in the water?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
So Namor has to take a time-out? The Nimrods exploited a weakness to defeat Namor......a weakness which Colossus does not have.

Weakness.

He doesn't need to take a time-out as the fight isn't likely to last long enough to cause him to weaken to any great degree and even if it did, there is literally water everywhere in the city, which would include wherever he is currently fighting. It would take at worst a few seconds to bust a water main.


So once again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus?

Originally posted by Silent Master
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So once again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus? If he don't have time to take a time-out.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If he don't have time to take a time-out.

He doesn't.

So again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If they are fighting in a city maybe Colossus can get a hair dryer?

BTW why does nobody want to talk about Thing and Luke Cage taking on Namor in the water?

A mod has already ruled that its to be ignored.

If you want to go against a mod ruling and discuss it, go ahead.

Personally, I'm sure there are other direct comparisons. Such as fights with Venom, right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
He doesn't.

So again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus? I've answered this.Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A mod has already ruled that its to be ignored.

If you want to go against a mod ruling and discuss it, go ahead.

Personally, I'm sure there are other direct comparisons. Such as fights with Venom, right? Thing has held his own against Namor numerous times.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I've answered this. Thing has held his own against Namor numerous times.

Has MacGargan had many fights with Colossus as well?

Let's make a like-for-like comparison. Venom vs Colossus, and Venom vs Namor.

Hell, as you're so insistent on weakening by dehydration, let's have Namor dehydrated in his fight. Now, can YOU think of instances of that?

What happened?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I've answered this.

No quan, you really haven't.

Ok I'm getting bored so as far as the fight goes......I don't care who wins. So in closing it took 1 Nimrod to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus. Like it or not that counts for something.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ok I'm getting bored so as far as the fight goes......I don't care who wins. So in closing it took 1 Nimrod to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus. Like it or not that counts for something.

What exactly does it count for in regards to this thread?

Concession accepted.

Just had another look at the Colossus/Venom fight. Venom WAS ON FIRE at the time, and still beat Colossus up.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just had another look at the Colossus/Venom fight. Venom WAS ON FIRE at the time, and still beat Colossus up.

How about the time Pete Wisdom almost crippled Colossus?

Pete Wisdom?? The British guy???

Jeez.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Pete Wisdom?? The British guy???

Jeez.

Yep, it was back when Pete was dating Shadowcat.

Marvel needs to introduce Colossus to more higher up characters, kind of like what they do with Namor. He has went against and did good against some of the strongest on the planet. Colossus never gets this kind of luxury. They did pit him against Thor and he got two pieced (honestly think Colossus should've done better). They'll probably spread him out more but as of right now Namor is pulling the win against him almost every time.

Sh*t this thread blew up

And he has returned.

Is that bad?

No...I just need to place my hair back on my head so that it can fall out again.

Lol, so what have i missed, seems everyone in this thread agrees on namor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Namor would ****ing wreck Colossus. Just check how entire X-men team did against Marinna and how easily Namor dispatched her.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Guest%20apps/Strength/DarkReignTheLista.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Guest%20apps/Strength/DarkReignTheListb.jpg

Namor fights the likes of Sentry, Thor and Hulk. Colossus gets overpowered by Gargan Venom in the very same story where Namor fought sentry.

mmm

http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/BP_011_Headshot_CPS_010.jpg

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If anybody is going to resort to brawling it's going to be Namor imo.
Maybe, but Namor's got some fighting skills too, ya know?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why are you debating like quan?
He just doesn't want to admit Namor being above Colossus

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus and Namor are fighting the same enemy, it took one to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus and Colossus was still ready to fight after the arm break. Namor folded like Kenny Rogers. So defeating Namor was easier for the Nimrods than it was to defeat Colossus.
If the Nimrods had used magnet's to tear Colossus apart? But you wouldn't care, Colossus fanboy.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Only if you understand. Somebody posted a scan of Namor defeating a sea monster in the ocean but some how that was suppose to show him being superior to Colossus. Colossus cannot fly nor can he swim like Namor.
He tanked the hit when he was outside water. Namorhas overcome cosmicstroms when dehydrated. You seriously can't comparehim with Colossus

Originally posted by thingy150
Seems we have a consensus, colossus has a few advantages(durability and maybe strength) but it seems that is not enough.
Actually, Namor is more stronger and durable

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Is that the one where Rogue absorbed Colossus' power?
Didn't Thor two shot Colossus, while telling him he was slower than the oldest Mountain Rock Troll? Damn that was funny. And Rogue absorbed powers from the KTFOd Colossus

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If they are fighting in a city maybe Colossus can get a hair dryer?
Hair dryer? I guess Human Torch can't put upenough heat to match up even to a hair dryer, since he got stomped by Namor.
Originally posted by juggernaut74 BTW why does nobody want to talk about Thing and Luke Cage taking on Namor in the water?
And Namor stomped Luke twice in the same arc, once out of water, and in the same arc, one-shotted She-Hulk by using the KOd Cage as a club and beat Thing as well. Seriously, stop lowballing Namor and highballing Colossus and accept that this is a fight Piotr can't win.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ok I'm getting bored so as far as the fight goes......I don't care who wins. So in closing it took 1 Nimrod to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus. Like it or not that counts for something.
We have multiple showings that show up Namor, and a showing where Colossus looked better with context behind it. I am going with consistency.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
If they are fighting in a city maybe Colossus can get a hair dryer?

BTW why does nobody want to talk about Thing and Luke Cage taking on Namor in the water?
Hair dryer. Since when did Namor become old Venom who was scared of a lighter? I guess Human Torch is pitiful since he failed to take down Namor and got curbstomped, since according to you that's only Piotr needs to win

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus and Namor are fighting the same enemy, it took one to finish Namor and 5 to finish Colossus and Colossus was still ready to fight after the arm break. Namor folded like Kenny Rogers. So defeating Namor was easier for the Nimrods than it was to defeat Colossus.

Dude the scans were there for all to see. Namor had fought and defeated more than the 5 who beat Colossus and the. More again before the one took him down. The comparison is like Namor facing one more at the end of a 15 round fight after he's spent (plus the additional fact that he'd been weakened by dehydration so like being spiked during the rounds) opposed to colossus being taken in round 1 (and Namor faced more in rounds 1 and 2 and 3 etc). The comparison doesn't favor your argument when Abhi has out up the evidence as he has.

Namor has matched Hulk often. He's matched Thor, and others of that tier. He's faster, stronger, has flight and is a more brutal fighter. Colossus has zero chance in this without being colossonaught and even then based on feats I'd have serious doubts

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Thing has held his own against Namor numerous times.
And got curbstomped

namor wrecks him.

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Actually, Namor is more stronger and durable


Stronger most likely but he is not more durable, a good comparison is that namor can be cut by adamantium, colossus can not(except for when logan was possessed)

Originally posted by thingy150
Stronger most likely but he is not more durable, a good comparison is that namor can be cut by adamantium, colossus can not(except for when logan was possessed)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20durablity/ColossustakingWolverinedown.jpg

More recently, Colossus was certain that Wolverine very nearly cut him to the bone (had Wolvy not retracted his claws in time).

But moot, really, as piercing durability is usually considered differently to blunt force durability, which is what will be most severely tested in this match.

Obviously blunt vs piercing is different but colossus has withstood adamantium before:

http://i.imgur.com/xC0FAiQ.jpg

The only time Namor has gone up against adamantium he has been cut open:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/59300/3814144-1894257784-namor.png

It is different than blunt force but it shows colossus is more durable than namor.

Colossus>adamantium(not always, with sufficient force adamantium can cut him but he has tanked it from wolverine before)

Namor<adamantium

Namor will win due to his strength and other attributes but i think that colossus is more durable

You also used a scan of him as a teenager when he was much less powerful.

This contradicts that:

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AmazingX-Men2013-012-007_zps0b625a89.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AmazingX-Men2013-012-008_zpsd86c66e5.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AmazingX-Men2013-012-012_zpsf48e223e.jpg

Are you joking or did you not read my comment, i said:

"not always, with sufficient force adamantium can cut him but he has tanked it from wolverine before"

wolverine is not strong enough, it is that simple, but he is strong enough to put holes through namor.

Is that wendigo/wolverine? Obviously his strength is enhanced in that scan, try again.

Originally posted by thingy150
Is that wendigo/wolverine?

Yes.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes.

That is what i thought, his scan makes zero sense to counter my post.

A Class 100 with Adamantium claws can cut through just about anything. Imagine if Hulk or Thor or Juggernaut had Adamantium Claws.

Not really you posted a scan of demon Wolverine.

He said with enough force, you could cut him. He tanked the first hit from Demon Wolverine, and the next one got him, which had more force behind it.

Namor would laugh off that attack though.

He certainly wouldn't. Logan normally has cut Thor and others. Namor would get ripped open.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Not really you posted a scan of demon Wolverine.


Lol demon wolverine is stronger than wolverine...your point is dumb and moot.

Originally posted by KingD19
He certainly wouldn't. Logan normally has cut Thor and others. Namor would get ripped open. He heals fast though. Originally posted by thingy150
Lol demon wolverine is stronger than wolverine...your point is dumb and moot. I know demon Wolverine is stronger.

How fast do you think Namor heals?

Originally posted by KingD19
How fast do you think Namor heals? In these conditions? Fast with all the water around.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
He heals fast though. I know demon Wolverine is stronger.


Then your comment is moot, colossus handled a slash from a stronger demon wolverine and wolverine put his claws in namor easily.

Colossus is more durable...

Originally posted by juggernaut74
In these conditions? Fast with all the water around.


What water?

Originally posted by Silent Master
This takes place in a city, IOW there is water everywhere so again, Since when does Namor have to worry about getting weaker in a fight with Colossus?

Originally posted by thingy150
Then your comment is moot, colossus handled a slash from a stronger demon wolverine and wolverine put his claws in namor easily.

Colossus is more durable... How did Namor deal with that?

So is namor just going to stop by a water fountain mid fight?

New location:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Rub_al_Khali_002.JPG

Originally posted by juggernaut74
How did Namor deal with that?

Deal with what?

Originally posted by thingy150
Deal with what? Getting stabbed.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Getting stabbed.

He got stabbed, went in a swimming pool(that was conveniently 5 feet away)

I am doing this now to make the thread fair, there is a consensus that colossus gets stomped so i am making the fight more fair, why is there a problem?

Because it's against the forum rules.

Arent you that guy who corrected which post i responded to, i said in carvers 1st post and you said it was his second?

Silent master, is that what you do, go around enforcing rules when you hold literally zero authority?

It's not my fault that you didn't read the rules before you started posting, I'm was just trying to help, or would you rather I kept silent and watched as a mod closed the topic and gave you a warning/banned you....I mean you've already had multiple threads closed for breaking forum rules.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's not my fault that you didn't read the rules before you started posting, I'm was just trying to help, or would you rather I kept silent and watched as a mod closed the topic and gave you a warning/banned you....I mean you've already had multiple threads closed for breaking forum rules.

I had multiple threads closed because i was trolling the hulk fans(i wont do this anymore i was being a dumbass)

Thanks for the rules, you were just relaying info to me, i am being a dick, i have had a really weird day(like really weird) and i am sorry for taking out my frustrations on you when you were merely being helpful.

My bad

In my opinion Colossus is more durable, but while reading through many of the responses to why people believe that Namor is more durable I guess that I can understand why that is. However I still believe that Colossus holds a large durability advantage on Namor. When it comes to fire, and other forms of energy it would only be logical that Marvel would believe that Colossus is more durable. Having greater durability is not the same as being hardier, or having a superior constitution.

There were also several scans, and examples that made people believe that Namor held a far greater strength advantage over Colossus. What about when the Green Scar comments on Colossus' strength, or when he effortlessly restrains Namor during the Defenders vs Offenders story arc in the Hulk? Namor is certainly faster, because Colossus in armored form has never been the fastest brick out there, but that has to do with agility, and not strength. I'm commenting on the Nimrod showing that was discussed earlier. I view it as more of an agility showing over a strength showing, in the belief that Namor is able to apply his strength in battle more efficiently than Colossus can.

Just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by thingy150
I had multiple threads closed because i was trolling the hulk fans(i wont do this anymore i was being a dumbass)

Thanks for the rules, you were just relaying info to me, i am being a dick, i have had a really weird day(like really weird) and i am sorry for taking out my frustrations on you when you were merely being helpful.

My bad

We all have days like that, don't worry about it. I probably should have explained more, rather than just quoting the rules in the first place.

Originally posted by Stoic
In my opinion Colossus is more durable, but while reading through many of the responses to why people believe that Namor is more durable I guess that I can understand why that is. However I still believe that Colossus holds a large durability advantage on Namor. When it comes to fire, and other forms of energy it would only be logical that Marvel would believe that Colossus is more durable. Having greater durability is not the same as being hardier, or having a superior constitution.

There were also several scans, and examples that made people believe that Namor held a far greater strength advantage over Colossus. What about when the Green Scar comments on Colossus' strength, or when he effortlessly restrains Namor during the Defenders vs Offenders story arc in the Hulk? Namor is certainly faster, because Colossus in armored form has never been the fastest brick out there, but that has to do with agility, and not strength. I'm commenting on the Nimrod showing that was discussed earlier. I view it as more of an agility showing over a strength showing, in the belief that Namor is able to apply his strength in battle more efficiently than Colossus can.

Just my 2 cents.
You are SEVERELY underestimating Namor here Stoic.

Namor's strength feats sh|t all over Colossus'.
Examples : Namor has lifted Hydrobase from the bottom of the Hudson River. Namor was lifting/balancing Utopia. Namor's caused entire islands to quake by punching them.

Namor's opponents sh|t all over Colossus'.
Namor's beaten Venom (despite the fact that Venom got the drop on him and used a weapon specifically made to kill Namor). Namor's held his own and beaten Savage Hulk. He's humiliated BRB. He took a Mjolnir shot to the back of the head from Thor. He's held his own vs Sentry, multiple times. He's humiliated Wonderman. He's OHKOed Pineapple Thing. He stalemated a mindcontrolled bloodlusted Ikaris.

Namor's speed and maneuverability sh|t all over Colossus'.
He's caught rockets out of the air and danced around various Human Torches.

Fighting skills are about even.

I'd argue Namor is more durable vs certain attacks than Colossus is. Namor actually survived THREE Human Torches, one of them Jim Hammond, blasting the sh|t out of him simultaneously and he wasn't even scorched. Just KOed. That attack would have probably slagged Colossus. Then you have his various fights with CL100 opponents which he's survived without so much as a bruise.

Originally posted by zopzop
You are SEVERELY underestimating Namor here Stoic.

Namor's strength feats sh|t all over Colossus'.
Examples : Namor has lifted Hydrobase from the bottom of the Hudson River. Namor was lifting/balancing Utopia. Namor's caused entire islands to quake by punching them.

Namor's opponents sh|t all over Colossus'.
Namor's beaten Venom (despite the fact that Venom got the drop on him and used a weapon specifically made to kill Namor). Namor's held his own and beaten Savage Hulk. He's humiliated BRB. He took a Mjolnir shot to the back of the head from Thor. He's held his own vs Sentry, multiple times. He's humiliated Wonderman. He's OHKOed Pineapple Thing. He stalemated a mindcontrolled bloodlusted Ikaris.

Namor's speed and maneuverability sh|t all over Colossus'.
He's caught rockets out of the air and danced around various Human Torches.

Fighting skills are about even.

I'd argue Namor is more durable vs certain attacks than Colossus is. Namor actually survived THREE Human Torches, one of them Jim Hammond, blasting the sh|t out of him simultaneously and he wasn't even scorched. Just KOed. That attack would have probably slagged Colossus. Then you have his various fights with CL100 opponents which he's survived without so much as a bruise.

Someone told me that the BRB thing was an alternate universe namor, also current namor vs current bill, you know who wins.