Team Iron Man -Vs- Team Wonder Man

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Supermex
Who wins?
No Prep..
No B.F.R..



Namor
Captain Britain
Iron Man

Vs

Wonder Man
Captain Marvel
Vision

thingy150
Is this shazam or marvel's captain marvel? If so is it carol or the original captain mar-vell?

zopzop
T1 all day.
Namor > Wonderman
CB > non Binary CM
IM > Vision.

thingy150
Originally posted by zopzop
T1 all day.
Namor > Wonderman
CB > non Binary CM
IM > Vision.

I do not agree with namor being above wonderman, wonderman is much more powerful, he is more durable(has survived being put through a planet by hyperion and thrown into the sun)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Here he fights very evenly with thor until mjolnir puts him down, one could even say simon had the edge.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/WBioN.jpg

He has thrashed thor before along with the fact he has beaten abomination.

http://www.marvelmasterworks.com/avengers/images/panel_avg009b.jpg

His fist has been compared to thors hammer.

He has fought evenly with hulk before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

Much stronger than the thing as shown in this scan.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425683-avengers_2_legion_cps_022_023.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425684-avengers_2_legion_cps_024.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425685-avengers_2_legion_cps_025.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425686-avengers_2_legion_cps_026.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/43640/1425689-avengers_2_legion_cps_027.jpg
Here he takes on the avengers, sending thor flying and tanking a hit from noh-varr.

The only thing namor has an edge on wonderman in is experience, the rest i feel simon has the edge in.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
I do not agree with namor being above wonderman, wonderman is much more powerful, he is more durable(has survived being put through a planet by hyperion and thrown into the sun)
Hyperion broke Simon's arm and they both died when Hyperion pushed them through the planetoid and into the Sun. This was proven when Simon and Hype reappeared on Grandmaster's "Dead Squad".


Most of these links don't work, so I have no clue what you are trying to show here.


That scan is from a flash back in a What If.


Context in the Abomination fight. Abomination was kicking his ass till Simon shocked him with some high voltage cables. If it wasn't for that, Simon would have been finished. Now compare his fight with Abomination to Namor's fight with Abomination. Night and day.


Hyperbole.


And Namor has BEATEN Hulk before. So.......




Namor is much stronger than Thing, so this means nothing. In fact, Namor managed to do, BY HIMSELF, what Simon couldn't do : lift Hydrobase. Namor has also humiliated Simon despite the fact that Simon had help. Namor has gone toe to toe with Hercules, Hercules has crushed Simon.

Thor was trying to talk Simon down when Simon sucker punched him in those scans. Thor even warned him to calm down or he'd make him calm down.

thingy150
"Most of these links don't work, so I have no clue what you are trying to show here."

It is simon fighting evenly with thor, the links work for me, try again.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864204-tumblr_mbwtpfiseg1rhxogso1_500.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864205-tumblr_mbt2770jpU1qct38do1_1280.jpg

Simon effortlessly beats rulk

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WestCoastAvengersv2007-20.jpg

Simon crushes ultrons head(which is made of adamantium)

simon is also very fast, he has speed blitzed wolverine on 3 separate occasions:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3289860-7757006270-76523.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/3195451-1792885-wondermanwolverine01_super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3294693-2154813201-32898.jpg

Being able to put your hands on logan whenever you want requires a ton of speed.

"hyperbole" do you have anyway of proving this? I have found that when people cannot dispute something they claim it to be an exaggeration, it is merely a accurate comparison that shows the power simon packs.

You have done literally nothing to prove namor is above simon.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
"Most of these links don't work, so I have no clue what you are trying to show here."

It is simon fighting evenly with thor, the links work for me, try again.


http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864204-tumblr_mbwtpfiseg1rhxogso1_500.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123129/2864205-tumblr_mbt2770jpU1qct38do1_1280.jpg

Simon effortlessly beats rulk

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/WestCoastAvengersv2007-20.jpg
Simon crushes ultrons head(which is made of adamantium)

simon is also very fast, he has speed blitzed wolverine on 3 separate occasions:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3289860-7757006270-76523.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/3195451-1792885-wondermanwolverine01_super.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113083/3294693-2154813201-32898.jpg

Being able to put your hands on logan whenever you want requires a ton of speed.

"hyperbole" do you have anyway of proving this? I have found that when people cannot dispute something they claim it to be an exaggeration, it is merely a accurate comparison that shows the power simon packs.

You have done literally nothing to prove namor is above simon.
Nothing? I've already told you, and other forum members can back it up, Namor was beating the hell out of Simon, despite the fact that Simon had help.

Hercules has crushed Simon, but Namor fought Hercules on even terms. Abomination was beating the crap out of Simon till Simon used high voltage cables to shock him. Namor was going toe to toe vs the Abomination and beat him.

Non Loebforce Rulk jobs..............a lot. He's a shell of his former self.

That's just the fights.

In terms of strength, I already told you, and other forum members can confirm, Namor did something Simon couldn't (despite the fact that Simon had help), he lifted Hydrobase. Namor's strength feats crap all over Simons.

So in terms of fights and feats : Namor > Simon.

thingy150
Ok so you are basing strength off of literally one feat? Simon has crushed adamantium and fought toe to toe with thor.

Since you are a clear fan of abc logic how about thing wrecked namor and simon wrecked thing, along with the fact luke cage made namor bleed.

Your argument is basically abc logic and nothing else.

A lot of the examples you used of people namor fought have been underwater, namor fought herc underwater, i think they had one other fight but they were really breef stalemates, namor also fought hulk underwater so what does that have to do with this thread.

Wonderman has one shotted wolverine before, namor could not do so in one shot, so by your abc logic standards wonderman>namor.

You have provided zero scans to prove namor is above wonderman in strength yet you are basing this off of literally one showing.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Wonderman was winning against thor before thor used mjolnir

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1857806-thor_one_shots_namor.jpg

Namor got oneshotted by thor's bare hands, as seen in the scans above wonder man takes multiple hits from thors bare hands, so i guess by your logic wonderman is more durable and > namor

thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/765185-wmstrength.jpg

Here wonderman lifts 50 thousand tons

thingy150
What is up with you saying things like "other forum members can confirm this" what does this do for you or your argument? There testaments dont help the fact that you have used zero scans to further your argument. All you have is abc logic backed by nothing.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
Ok so you are basing strength off of literally one feat? Simon has crushed adamantium and fought toe to toe with thor.

Since you are a clear fan of abc logic how about thing wrecked namor and simon wrecked thing, along with the fact luke cage made namor bleed.

Your argument is basically abc logic and nothing else.

A lot of the examples you used of people namor fought have been underwater, namor fought herc underwater, i think they had one other fight but they were really breef stalemates, namor also fought hulk underwater so what does that have to do with this thread.

Wonderman has one shotted wolverine before, namor could not do so in one shot, so by your abc logic standards wonderman>namor.

You have provided zero scans to prove namor is above wonderman in strength yet you are basing this off of literally one showing.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Wonderman was winning against thor before thor used mjolnir

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1857806-thor_one_shots_namor.jpg

Namor got oneshotted by thor's bare hands, as seen in the scans above wonder man takes multiple hits from thors bare hands, so i guess by your logic wonderman is more durable and > namor
Wow, Namor was one shotted by Thor? How about the fact that Simon got his ass kicked by Black Widow? WHich is more humiliating? When has Simon one shotted Wolverine? He blitzed him when his back was turned during Infinity War. This is the OPPOSITE of what happened when Wolverine and Namor fought. Wolverine got a sucker shot in at Namor and Namor still humiliated him. Thing has one shot KOed an evil mind controlled Simon before. So again, you have no business bringing that up. Namor didn't fight Herc underwater. They were fighting on Hydrobase till CM broke it up. That fight still lasted longer than Hercs fight with Simon where he BROKE Simon's face and pushed his sh|t in.

I've already told you when they, Namor and Simon, fought, Namor was beating him despite the fact that Simon had help from Sentry AND Ares. Do you understand? They already faced off on panel and Namor won. Namor's done better vs common opponents too.
Originally posted by thingy150
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/0/3853/765185-wmstrength.jpg

Here wonderman lifts 50 thousand tons
Wow! Too bad Hydrobase weighs MORE than that, it's a floating ISLAND and Simon couldn't lift it without assistance (actually he didn't lift it at all, he was balancing it and even then he needed help and was straining his ass off). Then you have Namor supporting Utopia while they were setting it's pylons in place.
Originally posted by thingy150
What is up with you saying things like "other forum members can confirm this" what does this do for you or your argument? There testaments dont help the fact that you have used zero scans to further your argument. All you have is abc logic backed by nothing.
Other members can confirm this because I don't feel like digging up the scans. It's common knowledge on this forum. If you don't want to accept it, too bad. I'm bored with this 'conversation' anyway. Carry on.

EDIT

thingy150
Lol, so you admit abc logic is your only argument and you admit you are to lazy to use anything to support your argument.

"wolverine got a sucker shot on namor" after namor got a sucker punch in on wolverine but nice try tho.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155J.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155L.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155M.jpg

Wonderman beat him here, he had a bit of help from whizzer but he still beat him, namor even compared his strength to thor(WHO BEAT NAMOR)

Namor loses again after he basically admitted he was weaker than simon.

Wonder man has this fight, namor admitted he was stronger and by your abc logic standards simon=thor(without mjolnir) thor>namor so i guess by your abc logic that means simons wins. Simon has knocked him out already as shown in the scans above and he is is stronger than namor.

Simon knocks him out again.

thingy150
Nobody cares what other members can confirm, you have done literally nothing to further your argument.

carver9
Thor one shot koed a weakened Namor as stated on the next page. Namor fought Wonder man, Ares, and Ironman at the same time and was stomping them. His battle fts are better... he is better overall than Wonder man but I would pay to see than fight.

thingy150
Originally posted by carver9
Thor one shot koed a weakened Namor as stated on the next page. Namor fought Wonder man, Ares, and Ironman at the same time and was stomping them. His battle fts are better... he is better overall than Wonder man but I would pay to see than fight.

Prove he is overall better than wonderman


I think they are really even but i do not think either one is clearly above the other, when did namor fight him ares and ironman, scans?

Simon has already beaten him before tho lol

They both have jobbed a sh*t ton over the years, namor being put on his ass by spiderman and being beaten underwater by the thing and simon being hit in the head by ares(it was a rock it literally would have just broke on his head, bad writing)

zopzop
Originally posted by carver9
Thor one shot koed a weakened Namor as stated on the next page. Namor fought Wonder man, Ares, and Ironman at the same time and was stomping them. His battle fts are better... he is better overall than Wonder man but I would pay to see than fight.
Don't bother Carvster, he's just trolling at this point.

Supermex
Edge to Namor over WM

thingy150
Originally posted by zopzop
Don't bother Carvster, he's just trolling at this point.

Yup, i am trolling because you have done literally nothing to prove namor is > wonder man.

Keep telling yourself that.

Abc logic and saying "ask anyone" is not an argument.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
Yup, i am trolling because you have done literally nothing to prove namor is > wonder man.

Keep telling yourself that.

Abc logic and saying "ask anyone" is not an argument.
Ask anyone on this forum is an argument because this has been done before.........multiple times.

The whole forum knows :
Namor was beating the sh|t out of Wonderman despite Wonderman having help from Ares and Sentry.

Namor's actually beaten people like Hulk whereas Simon briefly held his own against Prof Hulk. Namor beat Abomination without plot (ie high voltage electric cable). Namor's gone toe to toe with Hercules until CM stepped in and stopped it. Hercules has beaten the living sh|t out of Simon.

Namor's lifted Hydrobase from the bottom of the Hudson River BY HIMSELF. Wonderman needed help to merely BALANCE Hydrobase on a raised mountain.

Even in that scan where WM 'beat' Namor, you admit he had help from Whizzer.

It's annoying even responding to you because not only do I have to present my case, I even have to correct the errors in your posts.

Like when you said Simon crushed Adamantium Ultron's head. It never happened :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/117571/4228350-vs+ultron+-+head+feat2.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by thingy150


Simon crushes ultrons adamantium head.

no expression

SMH.

thingy150
You have still yet to show these scans of namor apparently beating wonder man, sentry and ares, if that happened that is utter pis because sentry thrashed namor by his self.

Namor basically admitted wonderman was stronger than him and wonder man put him down.

Again, abc logic is all you have got, if you want some, namor lost to the thing, simon crushed the thing, by your abc standards wonder man>namor.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wrBwfhu3qUo/TymuaIS0KUI/AAAAAAAAA8U/0CEvbtV4mVc/s640/Hero-Envy-Namor-vs-Thor.jpg

Namor got one shotted by namor, so if i adhere to your logic than wonder man(who was winnign against thor without him using mjolnir) is > namor.

Namor beat hulk underwater, what does that have to do with this fight? Simon easily stalemated hulk, namor beating hulk underwater does not pertain to this fight because underwater namor is amped.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/28028/802619-hyperion_vs._wonder_man001.jpg

He lost this fight but him and hyperion fighting make an entire planetoid "tremble"

http://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/msmarvelwonderman14.jpg

Under mind control but it still shows he was ableo blitz miss marvel

http://static.flickr.com/48/119905963_453a3ca15e_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/38/119905964_75a2187031_o.jpg

Wonder man has been able to take on herc before

Wonder man may be more durable, he has taken heavy hits from thor and hulk and been fine, luke cage made namor bleed and spiderman put namor on his ass:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/prv12378_pg4.jpg

They were underwater when luke cage was able to bust him open

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HwpvrjWD3Mc/UvFp2-Kd-qI/AAAAAAAAd6Y/gAB6Vt1ahq8/s1600/Superior+Spider-Man+Team-Up+008-020.jpg

Here is when spiderman put him on his ass

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg


twice wonder mans power has been compared to thor, he put namor down in two hits and namor basically admitted who was stronger.

If wonder man is not jobbing he has a great chance to beat the fishstick.

thingy150
Originally posted by carver9
no expression

SMH.

Blame kmc, they only had part of the scan....

DarkSaint85
Thingy, all your scans are super old. Have you come round to our way of thinking and accept that old scans are usable?

thingy150
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thingy, all your scans are super old. Have you come round to our way of thinking and accept that old scans are usable?

I figure that since all of namor's accomplishments are old and that zopzop has used(stated) a bunch of old scans its alright.

http://static.flickr.com/81/257115021_eb482ed5a9_o.jpg

wonder man tanks hits from gladiator, gladiator had destroyed planets with his strikes.

Wonder man also has tanked hits from hyperion who was able to put him through a planet.

WM tanked multiple hits from thor whereas namor crumbled after one.

I give wonder man the edge in durability.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
You have still yet to show these scans of namor apparently beating wonder man, sentry and ares, if that happened that is utter pis because sentry thrashed namor by his self.

Namor basically admitted wonderman was stronger than him and wonder man put him down.

Again, abc logic is all you have got, if you want some, namor lost to the thing, simon crushed the thing, by your abc standards wonder man>namor.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wrBwfhu3qUo/TymuaIS0KUI/AAAAAAAAA8U/0CEvbtV4mVc/s640/Hero-Envy-Namor-vs-Thor.jpg

Namor got one shotted by namor, so if i adhere to your logic than wonder man(who was winnign against thor without him using mjolnir) is > namor.

Namor beat hulk underwater, what does that have to do with this fight? Simon easily stalemated hulk, namor beating hulk underwater does not pertain to this fight because underwater namor is amped.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/28028/802619-hyperion_vs._wonder_man001.jpg

He lost this fight but him and hyperion fighting make an entire planetoid "tremble"

http://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/msmarvelwonderman14.jpg

Under mind control but it still shows he was ableo blitz miss marvel

http://static.flickr.com/48/119905963_453a3ca15e_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/38/119905964_75a2187031_o.jpg

Wonder man has been able to take on herc before

Wonder man may be more durable, he has taken heavy hits from thor and hulk and been fine, luke cage made namor bleed and spiderman put namor on his ass:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/prv12378_pg4.jpg

They were underwater when luke cage was able to bust him open

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HwpvrjWD3Mc/UvFp2-Kd-qI/AAAAAAAAd6Y/gAB6Vt1ahq8/s1600/Superior+Spider-Man+Team-Up+008-020.jpg

Here is when spiderman put him on his ass

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg


twice wonder mans power has been compared to thor, he put namor down in two hits and namor basically admitted who was stronger.

If wonder man is not jobbing he has a great chance to beat the fishstick.

Thing one KOing mindcontrolled Simon and admitting he's much tougher than him :
http://s22.postimg.org/a2apjx5od/Thingand_Wonderman.jpg

Simon getting his sh|t pushed in by Herc :
http://s4.postimg.org/3m66fh70p/herculesares13.jpg

Like Carver already mentioned Namor was weakened when Thor KOed him. I can't find the scans of the Namor vs Ares/Sentry/Wonderman fight but it took place in Invaders vs Avengers 2.

And Hyperion fighting Wonderman (which Wonderman lost by the way) shaking a PLANETOID is cool and all but Namor fighting Behemoth registered earthquakes all over a PLANET. So....
http://s21.postimg.org/jkpknt843/Tales_To_Astonish080a.jpg

Enough with this nonsense.

thingy150
I stated that wonderman lost to hyperion, the feat was them shaking the planetoid.

Wonder man has wrecked thing before so:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

Wonderman being wrecked by herc is pis, did you see this:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/1/12397/1460035-764546_4da9x8.jpg_super.jpeg

wonder man was severely mistreated in that series, he has tanked hits from thor, gladiator, hyperion, hercules(different fight), namor..etc...

He has finished namor off in 2 hits as shown in my scans above, namor was distracted but it shows he has the power to put namor down.

If you want to use scans with bad writing and pis we could do that:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/138522/3968976-9932647854-31473.jpg

Overall i think this fight is really even and might even end in a draw.

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
I stated that wonderman lost to hyperion, the feat was them shaking the planetoid.

Wonder man has wrecked thing before so:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/wondythingstrength1cr.jpg
That's not wrecking. That's not even the end of the fight, if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention it was Xemu, who was mind controlling Simon, that wrapped that dumbell around Thing allowing Simon the breathing room to attack Thing again! Simon had HELP from Xemu!


How does that prove the Herc fight with WM was PIS? Ares sucker attacked WM in the back of the head.


Namor was distracted by and having a conversation with Whizzer when WM attacked him :
http://s4.postimg.org/d6q9lqdah/whizzer.jpg


And I could probably dig up the scans of Black Widow beating Simon.

thingy150
"That's not wrecking. That's not even the end of the fight, if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention it was Xemu, who was mind controlling Simon, that wrapped that dumbell around Thing allowing Simon the breathing room to attack Thing again! Simon had HELP from Xemu!"

Love the hypocrisy, you get to use scans of thing beating a mind controlled simon but i do not get to do that vice versa thumb up

"Namor was distracted by and having a conversation with Whizzer when WM attacked him"

you literally quoted me saying "namor was distracted" what is your point, it shows wm can put him down in two hits.


"How does that prove the Herc fight with WM was PIS? Ares sucker attacked WM in the back of the head."

It shows that wonder man was written badly in that arc....

zopzop
Originally posted by thingy150
"That's not wrecking. That's not even the end of the fight, if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention it was Xemu, who was mind controlling Simon, that wrapped that dumbell around Thing allowing Simon the breathing room to attack Thing again! Simon had HELP from Xemu!"

Love the hypocrisy, you get to use scans of thing beating a mind controlled simon but i do not get to do that vice versa thumb up
But Thing wasn't fighting a mind controlled Simon in your scan. Thing was fighting a mind controlled Simon AND Xemu and Thing was WINNING.


Yes, it shows that WM can put down a DISTRACTED Namor with two hits. You left out that key word in between the words "two" and "hits".



If you say so.

carver9
Lol...Namor has went fist cuffs against Savage Hulk while Wonder man gets overpowered and one shot koed by Grey Hulk.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948644/11.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948645/12.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948646/13.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948647/14-15.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948648/16.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948649/17.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/11948650/18.jpg.html

Thingy...you are hilarious. If you look at Namor fts as a whole and stop posting scans you have no clue about (adamantium being crushed by Wonderman and Namor being knocked out by Wonderman, ignoring the context), then you'll realize the power difference here. Wonderman will do ok against Namor and then he will fall and again, this is based off fts.

thingy150
Lol "this is based off fts" wow, proclaiming it is based off of feats does not make up for your overwhelming lack of feats.

Wonder man has stalemated hulk before:

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3327/hulkp12nc1rt.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/7574/hulkp23ow4hs.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4129/hulkp37ed5nn.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4103/hulkp43xy0um.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8149/hulkp54tk7jf.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9950/hulkp69fp3ql.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/355/hulkp70gn5oj.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3830/hulkp89br6bp.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/2023/hulkp90us4gg.jpg

Namor could win carter, but sadly with your poor debating skills you will not prove this. Now why don't you scurry away carter, i love how you feel like you can talk sh*t but you ran away from the battle zone, scared much.

carver9
Just posted scans of Wonderman being one shot koed by freaking Grey Hulk. You can ignore that if you want.

thingy150
It never showed he was knocked out, it just shows he may have been bfr'd

That is literally the only scan you can come up with.

You always come in late ignoring the rest of my posts like this:

You have still yet to show these scans of namor apparently beating wonder man, sentry and ares, if that happened that is utter pis because sentry thrashed namor by his self.

Namor basically admitted wonderman was stronger than him and wonder man put him down.

Again, abc logic is all you have got, if you want some, namor lost to the thing, simon crushed the thing, by your abc standards wonder man>namor.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wrBwfhu3q...mor-vs-Thor.jpg

Namor got one shotted by namor, so if i adhere to your logic than wonder man(who was winnign against thor without him using mjolnir) is > namor.

Namor beat hulk underwater, what does that have to do with this fight? Simon easily stalemated hulk, namor beating hulk underwater does not pertain to this fight because underwater namor is amped.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...nder_man001.jpg

He lost this fight but him and hyperion fighting make an entire planetoid "tremble"

http://arousinggrammardotcom.files....wonderman14.jpg

Under mind control but it still shows he was ableo blitz miss marvel

http://static.flickr.com/48/119905963_453a3ca15e_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/38/119905964_75a2187031_o.jpg

Wonder man has been able to take on herc before

Wonder man may be more durable, he has taken heavy hits from thor and hulk and been fine, luke cage made namor bleed and spiderman put namor on his ass:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/image...rv12378_pg4.jpg

They were underwater when luke cage was able to bust him open

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HwpvrjWD3...-Up+008-020.jpg

Here is when spiderman put him on his ass

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg


twice wonder mans power has been compared to thor, he put namor down in two hits and namor basically admitted who was stronger.

If wonder man is not jobbing he has a great chance to beat the fishstick.

And this comment:

Ok so you are basing strength off of literally one feat? Simon has crushed adamantium and fought toe to toe with thor.

Since you are a clear fan of abc logic how about thing wrecked namor and simon wrecked thing, along with the fact luke cage made namor bleed.

Your argument is basically abc logic and nothing else.

A lot of the examples you used of people namor fought have been underwater, namor fought herc underwater, i think they had one other fight but they were really breef stalemates, namor also fought hulk underwater so what does that have to do with this thread.

Wonderman has one shotted wolverine before, namor could not do so in one shot, so by your abc logic standards wonderman>namor.

You have provided zero scans to prove namor is above wonderman in strength yet you are basing this off of literally one showing.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/...hor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/...hor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/...hor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Wonderman was winning against thor before thor used mjolnir

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...shots_namor.jpg

Namor got oneshotted by thor's bare hands, as seen in the scans above wonder man takes multiple hits from thors bare hands, so i guess by your logic wonderman is more durable and > namor



You come into threads and ignore everyones posts and make moot points.... thumb up

thingy150
I already showed scans of simon koing namor in two shots after namor admits he is weaker than him, namor was surprised but simon still put him down.

carver9
He was koed. Wonderman didn't show back up after Grey Hulk punched him.

Why would I post scans for you when everything is PIS except your scans?

thingy150
There was only a page after he got bfr'd, maybe he did not have enough time to get back on panel, you said he was knocked out, you cannot prove this.

It was shown however that simon knocked namors face into oblivion and knocked him out cold.

abhilegend
Wonder Man nearly broke his back balancing Hydro Base even with Invisible Woman's help.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2202683-avengers307_09b.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/96884/2202682-avengers307_10a.jpg

Namor lifted it and re-floated it.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Strength/NamorTheSub-Mariner46a.jpg

Namor vs Sentry, ares and simon.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/AvengersInvaders02a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/AvengersInvaders02b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/AvengersInvaders02c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/AvengersInvaders02d.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/AvengersInvaders02e.jpg

Yeah, Namor would push Wondy's shit in.

abhilegend
Originally posted by thingy150
There was only a page after he got bfr'd, maybe he did not have enough time to get back on panel, you said he was knocked out, you cannot prove this.

It was shown however that simon knocked namors face into oblivion and knocked him out cold.
By a sucker punch, ****ing ares oneshotted simon with a sucker shot.

thingy150
Originally posted by abhilegend
By a sucker punch, ****ing ares oneshotted simon with a sucker shot.

And i stated why that entire arc was stupid, he did it with concrete, which is a material that would break on Simon's head. Simon has tanked shots from Thor, Gladiator and Hyperion......

abhilegend
Originally posted by thingy150
And i stated why that entire arc was stupid, he did it with concrete, which is a material that would break on Simon's head. Simon has tanked shots from Thor, Gladiator and Hyperion......
Simon gets koed by pumpking bombs............

thingy150
Namor gets put on his ass by spiderman and busted open by Luke Cage and loses to thing underwater.....

abhilegend
Originally posted by thingy150
Namor gets put on his ass by spiderman and busted open by Luke Cage and loses to thing underwater.....
Simon loses to Black Widow...............

thingy150
Simon knocks namor out..are you going to do something to further the fishstick or are you just going to keep listing off stupid sh*t?

It is a very even fight, neither of them have that much of an edge in any area but i feel simon takes it "cough" again "cough"

abhilegend
I just posted Namor doing something which nearly broke Simon's back and then manhandling simon along with Ares............

thingy150
I did not see that, all i see is them coming at him at different times, wonder man was not even fighting him so how does this further anything, lol he did not take all of them on at once.

Sentry already wrecked him:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/1981051-1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/1981055-2.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/1981056-3.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/10/101942/1981057-4.jpg

Wonder man has also wrecked him:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/killrave/155K.jpg

WM sends him flying the page before he knocks him out and namor compares him to thor, WHO ONE SHOTTED HIM.

Simon has taken hits from Gladiator(who busts planets) Hyperion(who put simon through a planet) thor(who lifts things the size of planets)

Wonder man is more durable and i feel that is one of the many reasons he takes this fight.

carver9
Didn't Green Goblin also knock him out?

http://www.thegreengoblinshideout.com/_/rsrc/1302469567742/superhero-civil-war/cwfrontline_7007h.jpg

carver9
ABHI...go ahead and post those scans of Namor working Wonderman who had backup from Ares.

thingy150
Originally posted by carver9
ABHI...go ahead and post those scans of Namor working Wonderman who had backup from Ares.

The scans he showed wonder man never fought him and none of them were fighting him at the same time, carter you made it seem like they all attacked him simultaneously and he beat their asses.

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