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Who do you think should have gotten the Brand? Before answering you should know what it really does.

The Star Brand allows its wielder flight, super strength, invulnerability and the ability to unleash blasts of destructive energy. He can fly at hyper-light speeds, easily traveling from the Earth to the far reaches of the solar system in little time. His strength is seemingly unlimited. His durability makes him capable of surviving a nuclear bomb at ground zero with no effects, or to survive the blasts from a rival Star Brand user. However, he must concentrate for this to happen; if he's not paying attention, or if he gets too scared, he can be hurt normally. The blasts manifest in a circle around the wielder causing widespread destruction, similar to a nuclear explosion. Ken occasionally projected his energy in standard energy bolts, but this was unusual. He also was able to sense Arden's ship when she was out of phase with normal reality, and thus invisible to most people.

The Star Brand also grants its owner immortality and healing from any injury or any type of death. If "killed," he changes into a reptile-like form while he regenerates.

The Star Brand's power will not typically manifest itself when the bearer is frightened or reluctant in any way. The Star Brand can pretty much use his imagination to expand his abilities. Because of this, the stronger the imagination of a bearer, the stronger his power will be. The Starchild, for example, was capable of extensive temporal and reality manipulation.

Adam Warlock

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Adam Warlock

I was thinking the same thing. The only thing that I questioned was his imagination.

Originally posted by Stoic
Who do you think should have gotten the Brand? Before answering you should know what it really does.

The Star Brand allows its wielder flight, super strength, invulnerability and the ability to unleash blasts of destructive energy. He can fly at hyper-light speeds, easily traveling from the Earth to the far reaches of the solar system in little time. His strength is seemingly unlimited. His durability makes him capable of surviving a nuclear bomb at ground zero with no effects, or to survive the blasts from a rival Star Brand user. However, he must concentrate for this to happen; if he's not paying attention, or if he gets too scared, he can be hurt normally. The blasts manifest in a circle around the wielder causing widespread destruction, similar to a nuclear explosion. Ken occasionally projected his energy in standard energy bolts, but this was unusual. He also was able to sense Arden's ship when she was out of phase with normal reality, and thus invisible to most people.

The Star Brand also grants its owner immortality and healing from any injury or any type of death. If "killed," he changes into a reptile-like form while he regenerates.

The Star Brand's power will not typically manifest itself when the bearer is frightened or reluctant in any way. The Star Brand can pretty much use his imagination to expand his abilities. Because of this, the stronger the imagination of a bearer, the stronger his power will be. The Starchild, for example, was capable of extensive temporal and reality manipulation.
Little do people know but the Classic Starbrand and the entire New Universe were retconned by Ellis (may he go bald before his time). Hickman just took the ball and ran with it. So to get an idea of the power level of the current Starbrand you need to read New Universal (good luck, the 'writing' is ass) and move on from there.

Anything before concerning the New Universe is dead and gone. So a lot of the information you posted concerning it is outdated. An infinitesimal fraction of the Classic Starbrand reconstructed Quasar after his body had been nullified by the UN, his soul destroyed by his personal Death Avatar, and then his spirit blasted to smithereens by a Blue Marvel doppelganger in the White Room.

Current Starbrand can't do that. Hickman's Reedbrand got killed by a Mad Celestial. The guy that had it in New Universal had to run for his life from a nuke strike (it was confirmed that it would have killed him if he didn't escape).

At it's absolute best, according to on panel evidence, current Starbrand is a planet buster. This is something any high herald worth his/her name can do.

Having said that, Doom or Adam Warlock would be a good choice to wield it.

Originally posted by zopzop
Little do people know but the Classic Starbrand and the entire New Universe were retconned by Ellis (may he go bald before his time). Hickman just took the ball and ran with it. So to get an idea of the power level of the current Starbrand you need to read New Universal (good luck, the 'writing' is ass) and move on from there.

Anything before concerning the New Universe is dead and gone. So a lot of the information you posted concerning it is outdated. An infinitesimal fraction of the Classic Starbrand reconstructed Quasar after his body had been nullified by the UN, his soul destroyed by his personal Death Avatar, and then his spirit blasted to smithereens by a Blue Marvel doppelganger in the White Room.

Current Starbrand can't do that. Hickman's Reedbrand got killed by a Mad Celestial. The guy that had it in New Universal had to run for his life from a nuke strike (it was confirmed that it would have killed him if he didn't escape).
I didn't read all of New Universal and only remember parts of it. But where was it actually shown that New Universal "retconned" New Universe? I thought New Universal was just a new take or reimagining and took place in some alternate universe not the same as the original. Because the world of New Universal had a significantly different history than the one in New Universe even before the white event which would indicate an entirely different reality wouldn't it?

And how does a retcon explain Quasar traveling to the NU and bringing back a portion of the classic Starbrand? And what happened to the original NU that Skeletron was banished to, and the NU earth that was brought out of it?

Originally posted by basilisk
I didn't read all of New Universal and only remember parts of it. But where was it actually shown that New Universal "retconned" New Universe? I thought New Universal was just a new take or reimagining and took place in some alternate universe not the same as the original. Because the world of New Universal had a significantly different history than the one in New Universe even before the white event which would indicate an entirely different reality wouldn't it?

And how does a retcon explain Quasar traveling to the NU and bringing back a portion of the classic Starbrand? And what happened to the original NU that Skeletron was banished to, and the NU earth that was brought out of it?


Follow on from above: OK was just having a look at the Marvel site and New Universe is earth-148611, while New Universal is earth-555, so it appears they are completely different. Also it still mentions earth-148611 being in orbit around the Stranger's world and the rest of the original NU sealed off with Skeletron. There is at least one other alternate version of a New Universe mentioned (15731) from Exiles.

555 is said to be in the Marvel multiverse. In Quasar the Watcher said 148611 was outside the multiverse in the greater omniverse. Confusing.

Dr Strange

New Universal was great.

Zop is salty.

Originally posted by basilisk
Follow on from above: OK was just having a look at the Marvel site and New Universe is earth-148611, while New Universal is earth-555, so it appears they are completely different. Also it still mentions earth-148611 being in orbit around the Stranger's world and the rest of the original NU sealed off with Skeletron. There is at least one other alternate version of a New Universe mentioned (15731) from Exiles.

555 is said to be in the Marvel multiverse. In Quasar the Watcher said 148611 was outside the multiverse in the greater omniverse. Confusing.
It's a mess because Marvel writers are lazy idiots.

Irregardless of whether it was a true retconn or an alternate reality, the Current Starbrand is NOT the Classic Starbrand (despite the fact that it was hinted at being unique in the multiverse in Untold Tales of the New Universe).

The one KEY feature of the Brand was that death was meaningless to you. No matter what anyone did to you : killed your physical body, nullified you, destroyed your spirit, claimed your soul, etc... You'd just come back in perfect health after the Brand reconstructed your body/soul/spirit. The Current Brand lacks that ability. This started with Ellis and Hickman rolled with it.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's a mess because Marvel writers are lazy idiots.

Irregardless of whether it was a true retconn or an alternate reality, the Current Starbrand is NOT the Classic Starbrand (despite the fact that it was hinted at being unique in the multiverse in Untold Tales of the New Universe).

The one KEY feature of the Brand was that death was meaningless to you. No matter what anyone did to you : killed your physical body, nullified you, destroyed your spirit, claimed your soul, etc... You'd just come back in perfect health after the Brand reconstructed your body/soul/spirit. The Current Brand lacks that ability. This started with Ellis and Hickman rolled with it.

Yes, I knew the Hickman SB wasn't supposed to be the original. Hickman took several concepts from New Universal and incorporated them into Avengers.

But even though it is a mess, and the uniqueness thing went out the window, at least the classic Starbrand is still probably out there somewhere. Hickman's version is just a lesser knockoff.

Quasar.

Hal Jordan

Starbrand is easily trans tier. High trans at that. Once he learns the scope of his powers, he will be more powerful than that.

Originally posted by carver9
Starbrand is easily trans tier. High trans at that. Once he learns the scope of his powers, he will be more powerful than that.
To quote my good friend Carver : "SMH"

He stalemated without a scratch on his body a team that consist of Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion and admitted at holding back. No one short of high trans is doing that. No one. Then he dropped Hyperion with a single attack and was wrecking the other Avengers until Hulk dive bombed him from space. No Herald is doing this. Lasting a panel against a team of that caliber. Starbrand is exactly what I said he is.

Originally posted by carver9
He stalemated without a scratch on his body a team that consist of Thor, Hulk, and Hyperion and admitted at holding back. No one short of high trans is doing that. No one. Then he dropped Hyperion with a single attack and was wrecking the other Avengers until Hulk dive bombed him from space. No Herald is doing this. Lasting a panel against a team of that caliber. Starbrand is exactly what I said he is.
SMH

Starbrand kills the living embodiment of the planet.

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Casually knocks them off of him.

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Starbrand: I was holding back.

Tony: We know, you dont think that terrifies us?.

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Wasn't even going all out and was able to stalemate them. He also ended the war during infinity with a single attack. He is extremely underrated. Still love you though Zop.

Yes I used to read StarBrand when it first came out.The last issue I remember he took this guy that the russians couldn`t beat with nukes,he had incredible density.Starbrand lifted him(this guy was so heavy he thought he was invinceble)took him into space,even gave the guy one more chance to relent,he did not.So starbrand simply threw him away in outer space.So yes his power is probably beyond sky father level!

The Brand is harnessed by the imagination of its user. Zop, I think that you are going to be surprised as time goes on, and they develop him a bit more. Just because he didn't burst out on the scene bouncing every hero on Earth around, does not mean that he isn't as powerful as Carver says that he is. look at how long it took Superman to get his feet under him in the Nu52 verse. Besides if they don't take their time, and work him up, people would probably lose interest in the character, and Marvel would likely have to deep six him.

@Stoic and Carver

We'll see. I'm holding out any hope of the SB under Hickman doing anything spectacular at all.