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Yoda goes into the senate chamber to stop the Emperor. Only the Emperor has been switched for the Ancient Emperor.

Who wins? (This is the Revenge of the Sith duel, only with one Emperor swapped for the other)

"At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was."

HMMMMMMMMMMMM......Yoda.

Inb4 VITATE CAN COLLAPSE THE DARK TEMPLE AND HE CAN ONESHOT DARK COUNCILS.

Yoda takes a dookie into his hand and throws it so hard it goes through Vitiate's torso and cracks his heart open.

WCS: Yoda dies
BCS: Yoda retreats after suffering major injuries and flees to another planet for safety

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WCS = Worst-Case Scenario
BCS = Best-Case Scenario

Vitiate takes the force, Yoda takes sabers.

I got a better idea he loses force because he has no feats off nexus to match Yoda's, and Vitiate gives him his lightsaber to hug in exchange

Originally posted by carthage
I got a better idea he loses force because he has no feats off nexus to match Yoda's, and Vitiate gives him his lightsaber to hug in exchange

Vitiate has zero feats off of a Nexus?

So how powerful would he be, when not on one?

Originally posted by Bigblue442
Vitiate has zero feats off of a Nexus?

So how powerful would he be, when not on one?
Don't take him seriously, he have the unfortunate habit of ignoring evidence that counter his arguments.

Here is evidence of Emperor Vitiate soundly defeating a Strike Team of some of the finest Jedi of the Order on a space station:

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Official description:

With Grand Master Satele Shan's support, Master Braga assembles a strike team of the strongest and most resolute Jedi in the order. Their goal is to pinpoint the Emperor's hidden fortress, capture the Sith leader alive, and turn him to the light side. The Jedi do not realize that they have underestimated the true extent of the Emperor's power. It is an error that will cost them dearly.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia)

The plan to invade the Emperor's fortress succeeds beyond Master Braga's greatest ambitions. However, the Jedi find more than they bargained for when they finally confront the Sith leader in his lair. The Emperor is more than a man - he is the living embodiment of the dark side. Armed with incalculable powers of corruption, the Emperor easily defeats the Knight, Master Braga, and their fellow Jedi, twisting them all to the dark side.

From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopeda)

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This is the referred space station:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120918025323/starwars/images/6/6c/Emperor's_Fortress.png

This is Emperor Vitiate or an avatar (Voice):

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120918025633/starwars/images/2/21/Emperor_chair.png

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Their goal is to pinpoint the Emperor's hidden fortress, capture the Sith leader alive, and turn him to the light side.
Turn the reigning Dark Lord of the Sith to the lightside?

What a Retarded storyline.

I know.

It was Jedi Master Braga's plan but the confrontation turned violent soon and the entire Jedi Strike Team fell.

Master Braga was noted for his ability to influence Sith in impressive ways. He convinced a member of the Dark Council to renounce Sith philosophy and join the Jedi Order in an epic struggle and confrontation with him that lasted 3 days. No one else have this kind of feat under his belt.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I know.

It was Jedi Master Braga's plan. He was noted for his ability to influence Sith in impressive ways. He convinced a member of the Dark Council to renounce Sith philosophy and join the Jedi Order in an epic struggle and confrontation that lasted 3 days.

It probably involved ass-rape, and psychedelic-drugs.

XD Same argument than RotS Sidious V.S RotJ Sidious.
With the time the dark side incarned gow stronger, Vitiate have thouzands of years... Exactly 1 400 this the time needed to plan the invasion of the republic....

If you try to turn Vitiate to the lightside he just laugh. Only Revan minded trick him with some help....

(Ha damn it hard to put s inztead of z now....)

Originally posted by ILS
Yoda takes a dookie into his hand and throws it so hard it goes through Vitiate's torso and cracks his heart open.


Originally posted by Sinious
Vitiate takes the force, Yoda takes sabers.
Yoda takes both.*

* Though, tbh to say Yoda takes the sabers in an understatement. He curbstomps Vitiate in sabers.

What he did in ToR novel iz far mor imprezziv....

Ztigma you know nothing about old republic character not more than me with pozt Thrawn Revenge characterz....

Actually, Vitiate juzt explode Yoda tutaminiz Revan reborn tutaminiz waz far mor zuperior to yoda one eeer ha no....

Zenate chamber Vitiate looze becauze ther iz no force combat here.. Thiz the zecond vitiate againzt Yoda in zuch place !!!!

Yoda decapitates him.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yoda takes both.*



Nope.

Dude, this is a non nexus setting. Yoda tears a new one for Vitiate in the force.

Originally posted by Stigma
Dude, this is a non nexus setting. Yoda tears a new one for Vitiate in the force.

Vitiate can spiritnuke temples bro.

Besides, you need a better argument than nexus'. Vitiate godstomped that strike team absent nexus amp.

What say you, Sinious? Will you pick up the banner of Agen Kolar and wave it proudly?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
What say you, Sinious? Will you pick up the banner of Agen Kolar and wave it proudly?

Nope, you know why? Cause I don't like Kolar. I assume you thought that I embraced a self-righteous mission such as defending every single character that gets lowballed here? Thats not the case brobeans.

Originally posted by Sinious
Vitiate can spiritnuke temples bro.
lol on an nexus, bro.

Besides, Vader collapsed a cathedral well before his prime and Starkiller practically atomized a frigate. All without a nexus amp.

Originally posted by Sinious
Besides, you need a better argument than nexus'. Vitiate godstomped that strike team absent nexus amp.
Not at all. Nexuses grant additional power, power unavailable for Vitiate here.

Yoda can do as much, easily.

Yoda can speedblizt Vitiate, or one-shot him with TK.

In sabers it's a pure bloodbath with Vitiate hugging a saber with his rectum.

Not to mention that the Dark Temple is still mostly intact.

Originally posted by Stigma
lol on an nexus, bro.

After he'd been massively weakened, exhausted and cut nearly in half, bro.

Originally posted by Nephthys
After he'd been massively weakened, exhausted and cut nearly in half, bro.
If getting cut in half is what it takes for Vitiate to destroy a temple (or did he?), then Yoda will grant him this favor, bro.

Thanks for the meaningless posturing. Good response.

You cannot zay there iz a winner in force combat becauz there iz not really a TRUE force combat...
In TURE force combat Vitiate juzt rape Yoda....

lol u mad

By spiritnuking, I meant his return in the new expansion, not TKing the dark temple.

Vitiate is leagues ahead of Yoda.

Yhea Yoda match DE Zidiouz Yhea Thank to Ztigman troll and undereztimating of ToR character Era....

Originally posted by Sinious
By spiritnuking, I meant his return in the new expansion, not TKing the dark temple.

He shoots a big energy beam out of it but I don't recall damage.

There was damage in the Republic one, little-to-no damage in the Empire one.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There was damage in the Republic one, little-to-no damage in the Empire one.

Don't suppose you have links w/ timestamps handy? You're like a boyscout, easily molestedalways prepared.

Republic Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5cA6ePVLDY&t=15m30s
Empire Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyTbSRQQuS0&t=15m33s

Look in the Shadow of Revan thread in the Lit and EU forum. The OP has links that go directly to just after Vitiate shows up. So you don't need to ask for a link in the future.

I don't see any damage in either, Ant. How long do you have to wait into the cutscene?

Imperial one has no damage besides the Wookie getting thrown back.
Republic one throws them all back and injures the talking droid head.

Originally posted by Sinious
By spiritnuking, I meant his return in the new expansion, not TKing the dark temple.

Gotta be the most pathetic "nuke" I've ever seen TBH.

Wait, Marr states that Vitiate's return killed a large amount of his forces. Do you guys need a quote for this?
I'm assuming that if Marr says that, similar is stated from Shan in the Republic version of the battle.

I'd like to see it. Depending on the context, he could just as easily be talking all those who died to fuel Vitiate's return rather than Vitiate personny killing them.

Okay hold on, doing a Flashpoint atm.

Originally posted by ares834
Gotta be the most pathetic "nuke" I've ever seen TBH.

Its only a spiritnuke. Lower your expectations and you'll like it.

Originally posted by ares834
I'd like to see it. Depending on the context, he could just as easily be talking all those who died to fuel Vitiate's return rather than Vitiate personny killing them.

20.05

Yep, that is what I was referring to.

Banzing on Yoda V.Z Revan and Revan V.Z Vitiate.... Vitiate win....

But the place allowz Yoda to attack Vitiate with light zaber that'z the problem...

Originally posted by Stigma
Besides, Vader collapsed a cathedral well before his prime and Starkiller practically atomized a frigate. All without a nexus amp.
Darth Vader did collapse a Cathedral but risked his life in doing so, ending up mortally wounded and unconscious after the effort. In comparison, Darth Malgus prevented debris of buildings from crushing him beneath in his worst day.

Starkiller didn't atomize a frigate. He blew apart a portion of it, the rest had disintegrated earlier during the descend towards the surface of the planet.

Your knowledge of stuff is really limited. Become my apprentice and I will teach you well.

Originally posted by Stigma
Not at all. Nexuses grant additional power, power unavailable for Vitiate here.
Nexus don't make a significant difference. Emperor soundly defeated some of the finest Jedi of the Order on a Space Station, he doesn't needs a nexus to be potent, he is naturally supremely powerful in the ways of the Force.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yoda can do as much, easily.
Prove it.

Originally posted by Stigma
Yoda can speedblizt Vitiate, or one-shot him with TK.
Utter nonsense

Originally posted by Stigma
In sabers it's a pure bloodbath with Vitiate hugging a saber with his rectum.
Yoda have edge only in this aspect.

Well, I figured if Sidious could force Yoda to retreat, Vitiate should have the same opportunity to stand where Sidious stood and see if he can make Yoda do the same.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well, I figured if Sidious could force Yoda to retreat, Vitiate should have the same opportunity to stand where Sidious stood and see if he can make Yoda do the same.
You mean, if Vitiate is on a hight platform?
Sidious blasting lightsaber out of Yoda's hand is a combination of good timing and luck. It would be rather unlikely for Vitiate to achieve the same.

Vitiate's combat speed is pretty insane. He did the entire Revan fight in a mere "few seconds."

Yoda wins, simple matter of exposure, Yoda has countless top tier feats, same can't be said for Vitiate.

It's a very very close fight but Yoda is the most powerful warrior of the light ever seen till the Order is purged.

Vitiate casually. Revan could directly challenge Yoda, yet was insignificant to Vitiate even in a weakened state.

Yoda is the second most powerful light sider of all time, bar none.

Don't underestimate the green old man, he could have held off SIDIOUS in a stalemate for a very very long time in more even ground. Never beat him of course but definitely stalemate him.

Vitiate will always be secondary among the Sith to Sidious and that is certainly enough for me.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yoda wins, simple matter of exposure, Yoda has countless top tier feats, same can't be said for Vitiate.

It's a very very close fight but Yoda is the most powerful warrior of the light ever seen till the Order is purged.
Yoda is not good enough to defeat Emperor in most situations. Emperor have relatively superior combat feats under his belt, which bodes well for his competence and power in comparison.

Yoda have failed to live up to the hype he gets from some authors.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yoda is the second most powerful light sider of all time, bar none.

Don't underestimate the green old man, he could have held off SIDIOUS in a stalemate for a very very long time in more even ground. Never beat him of course but definitely stalemate him.

Vitiate will always be secondary among the Sith to Sidious and that is certainly enough for me.
I don't see how holding off Sidious is more impressive then being far more powerful then Sidious.

Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever, so canon it may as well be in the Chuck Norris book of facts.

Everything Vitiate can do, Sidious can do better and without any amps/rituals whilst he's at it.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever, so canon it may as well be in the Chuck Norris book of facts.

Everything Vitiate can do, Sidious can do better and without any amps/rituals whilst he's at it.
Traditional rankings do not have much credibility.

Absolutely wrong.

Also, this thread is about Yoda and he lost to Sidious.

@kunsbuttboy. Except he isn't, and at this point I would hardly consider Vitiate a Sith.

People conveniently forget that Emperor Vitiate have been evaluated on all accounts; Sith Lord; Dark Side Master; Force-user. On all accounts, he is stated to be supreme.

...perhaps, but does that mean he can stand in the Senate Chamber where Sidious stood and take Yoda? Hence, this thread.

Its not a bad environment for Vitiate imo.

Originally posted by Angelalex242


"At an end your rule is, and not short enough it was."

lol this is more accurate in this case.

The amount of bias from TOR wankers is like watching the Westboro.

Sidious is the most powerful ever, not in any actual doubt at all.

He has done so much more than Vitiate will ever do in terms of feats and accolades it's just ludicrous to argue otherwise.

Vitiate gets blitzed

And Ith an oppen ground with a large amount of diztance???? Yoda get ripped....