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We argue about who's stronger, but there's no doubt The Hulk and Superman are at the high end of the Class 100 scale.
What i'm looking for ate characters at the LOW end of the scale. The ones on the bubble, that just barely make the Class. The ones you only grudgingly accept as being eligable, the ones you think may not even BE Class 100 despite official stats.
As an analogy, by high/low end i mean, people who can bench 600lbs are JUST making the elite Class 100. Hulk and Supes would be those freaks who are in the 900+lbs range.
So, the low enders, then...

Mostly second stringers like thing, colossus

A lot of people (here) dont think Ben actually IS Class 100. Good choice.

Iron Man and War Machine.

We should separate the CL100 tier from the Herald Tier.

Let's face it, Heralds basically have unlimited strength. From busting planets, to lifting planets, to holding black holes, etc....

The Cl100 Tier should be for characters that are beyond high meta but below herald strength wise.

Examples :
Namor - lifted Hydrobase, supported Utopia, lifted a WWII era battleship/destroyer, stopped a city sized ship in it's tracks, etc..
Wonderman - helped IW balance Hydrobase, lifted the equivalent of 50000, lifted that giant pyramid structure Hulk hurled at him, etc..
Thing - supported a collapsing oil rig, lifted a Brownstone, held together a collapsing suspension bridge, lifted that glass pyramid structure in Paris, etc..

You get the idea. The difference between Cl100s and Heralds is huge.

Yeah, you need define what is "class 100".

Agree with Zop. If i had to choose for the thread it would be Colossus and Thing. If i had to go lower than that, it would be Groot.

Red Hulk (if Thing or Colossus are to weak).

Red Hulk isnt even close to fitting the description of this thread. He is an elite strength wise.

Originally posted by carver9
Agree with Zop. If i had to choose for the thread it would be Colossus and Thing. If i had to go lower than that, it would be Groot. I agree. What are Colossus' greatest feats in your view?

Originally posted by carver9
Red Hulk isnt even close to fitting the description of this thread. He is an elite strength wise.

I dont think so. He is the same tier as Namor and Wonderman, IMO.

Sasquatch- Tossed 250 ton airplane, lifted battle ship out of water are two I have off the top of my head. Those are better than or equal to Namors imo.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatch- Tossed 250 ton airplane, lifted battle ship out of water are two I have off the top of my head. Those are better than or equal to Namors imo.
Namor's lifted submarines out of the ocean and carried them to land. He's lifted commercial class fishing boats. He's lifted Hydrobase. He's supported an entire island. He's lifted a WWII era battleship/destroyer.

Stop lowballing.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I dont think so. He is the same tier as Namor and Wonderman, IMO.

No he is not and another thing, Namor and Wonderman isn't close to being in the tier you are trying to place them in either. I disagree entirely with your opinion. You might want to look at the time Osborn absorbed his power or his last fight against Thor. The list goes on and on and on. He's an elite physically.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I agree. What are Colossus' greatest feats in your view?

Assisting in lifting the shield hellicarrier.

Grey Hulk

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Grey Hulk
Grey Hulk busted an object twice the size of planet Earth. He doesn't belong in this group.

Originally posted by carver9




Was hoping I could slip that one by you.

Originally posted by carver9
Assisting in lifting the shield hellicarrier. When was this? Can't say I saw that.Originally posted by zopzop
Namor's lifted submarines out of the ocean and carried them to land. He's lifted commercial class fishing boats. He's lifted Hydrobase. He's supported an entire island. He's lifted a WWII era battleship/destroyer.

Stop lowballing. Why do you get an attitude when somebody disagrees? Chillax son.

Sasquatches feats at the very least match those.

If we use XYZ logic, no one is even close to 100. Guys like Thing have been shown in the same league - if only for brief periods - with legit high heralds in strength alone. It's a big reason handbooks are such shite.

But if we're ignoring such faulty reasoning, I'll throw in Death's Head II. He's got a good showing against the Hulk, among a few others, but didn't do enough to really put him too much higher than low-end Class 100. His chief advantages lie elsewhere.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatches feats at the very least match those.
Proof? The items I've listed as things Namor has lifted sh|t on the items you listed for Sasquatch.

Give examples and scans. I've done this over multiple threads (and abhi's even supplemented the ones I couldn't find).

If you believe lifting a 250ton plane or a battleship is as good a feat as supporting en entire god damn island, I don't know what to say to you.

Originally posted by zopzop
Proof? The items I've listed as things Namor has lifted sh|t on the items you listed for Sasquatch.

Give examples and scans. I've done this over multiple threads (and abhi's even supplemented the ones I couldn't find).

If you believe lifting a 250ton plane or a battleship is as good a feat as supporting en entire god damn island, I don't know what to say to you. He didn't just lift the plane he threw it 1000ft......against the thrusters. And somebody stated that they thought only the Hulk was capable of such things.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
When was this? Can't say I saw that. Why do you get an attitude when somebody disagrees? Chillax son.

Sasquatches feats at the very least match those.

Will get the scan for you but I think this is even better. Wolverine claws, Doctor Strange Magic and Storms lightning bolt combined couldn't break through the ice prison, but guess what Colossus does.

http://rs31.pbsrc.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusannual_4.jpg~320x480

Originally posted by carver9
Will get the scan for you but I think this is even better. Wolverine claws, Doctor Strange Magic and Storms lightning bolt combined couldn't break through the ice prison, but guess what Colossus does.

http://rs31.pbsrc.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus/Colossusannual_4.jpg~320x480 Ok thanks. But I've never heard of that feat you mentioned involving the SHIELD ship.

Originally posted by carver9
No he is not and another thing, Namor and Wonderman isn't close to being in the tier you are trying to place them in either. I disagree entirely with your opinion. You might want to look at the time Osborn absorbed his power or his last fight against Thor. The list goes on and on and on. He's an elite physically.

Red Hulk without absorption cosmic power is not impressive. He was defeated by Angrir (with ease) and Wonderman.

I think Namor/Wonderman/Red Hulk are in a tier below heralds, and ahead Colossus/Thing.

That is why i said " if Colossus/Thing" are too weak to this, then Red Hulk.

I think Grey Hulk destroying the asteroid is a big outlier.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
I think Grey Hulk destroying the asteroid is a big outlier.
But he also beat Abomination multiple times and schooled Doc Samson easier than Savage Hulk ever did. He crushed the West Coast Avengers.

What happened in this contest?

https://eoinvahey.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/hulkan18.jpg

Grey hulk had to get multiple times stronger to beat abomination. He was class 90 on average.

Meh....people are cherry picking. I think for the most part all second string strong men are in the same class

Thats a lot of reading gor not caring.

Ignore carvers post. He doesnt know that colossus is especially effective against magic :-)

For the record, Class 100 is the ability to lify 100 tons. I saw the posts on page1 dealing with definition.
5, 10, 50, 85, 100. The Thing was mentioned in the first response. I've always believed he was Class 85. Can lift 85 tons.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Red Hulk without absorption cosmic power is not impressive. He was defeated by Angrir (with ease) and Wonderman.

I think Namor/Wonderman/Red Hulk are in a tier below heralds, and ahead Colossus/Thing.

That is why i said " if Colossus/Thing" are too weak to this, then Red Hulk.

I think Grey Hulk destroying the asteroid is a big outlier.

Combat ability is often great to have in a fight, it just doesn't show how much the character can lift. I think Ikaris should be on this list as one of those barely making the Class 100 characters.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Ignore carvers post. He doesnt know that colossus is especially effective against magic :-) So is Dr. Strange, and he couldn't get passed it.

Originally posted by riv6672
For the record, Class 100 is the ability to lify 100 tons. I saw the posts on page1 dealing with definition.
5, 10, 50, 85, 100. The Thing was mentioned in the first response. I've always believed he was Class 85. Can lift 85 tons. I thought he was bumped up to actually being stated as Class 100 in a comic.

Like i said on page1, people here dispute it.

Since i'm asking for opinions, thats not bothering me. I personally LIKE Ben at Class 85. He's a better fighter than stronger opponents, which fits him better.

Originally posted by riv6672
For the record, Class 100 is the ability to lify 100 tons. I saw the posts on page1 dealing with definition.
5, 10, 50, 85, 100. The Thing was mentioned in the first response. I've always believed he was Class 85. Can lift 85 tons.

You differentiate between class 100 and class 100+

Lifting 100 tons and lifting evertyhing in excess of 100 tons.

Hyperion, Hulk, Thor, etc are 100+ not 100

I differentiated in that i said the guys you mentioned are high end. Plus sign or high end, its not that big a deal to get stuck on is it? Or IS it?

Ares marvel, strong guy I could be wrong, colossus, iron man. I think namor is in upper mid tier of class 100 dude got some crazy strength feats. Breaking the brands of crytorak or wat evea, pounding on the seafloor causing earthquakes. Lifting ocean liners etc dude is a heavy hitter. Colossus dont have namor feats never will stop grouping then.

Iron-man is a good candidate, he'd get manhandled by a variety of the strong guys mentioned before.

He'd humilliate Colossus though.

Originally posted by Bentley
Iron-man is a good candidate, he'd get manhandled by a variety of the strong guys mentioned before.

He'd humilliate Colossus though.

Not too sure about Iron Man (2014-15) any longer. He may be stronger than ever before.

I was wondering about IM. I figured it depended on the armor he might be wearing at any given time.

What about the Vision and maybe Black Bolt. They tussle with the big boys, but are they truly on their level?

Booster Gold.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/bg3.jpg

Based on the capacity (243 people) and that it looks pretty full, I am guessing it is an Airbus A330. Which has a max takeoff weight of around 230 tons )http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A330).

Originally posted by riv6672
A lot of people (here) dont think Ben actually IS Class 100. Good choice.


Ben is mid CL100

Are we asking who the weakest class 100 is?

It's Ben, not sure why people are posting Uber feats

If we are asking who the strongest non HH is it's obviously Abomination.

Originally posted by Bentley
Iron-man is a good candidate, he'd get manhandled by a variety of the strong guys mentioned before.

He'd humilliate Colossus though.

He has a lot of options to deal with Colossus, but in a straight brawl things wouldn't look good for Tony.

Carol Danvers

Iron man would beat the shit out of colossus in a fist fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron man would beat the shit out of colossus in a fist fight.

Why am I not surprised you'd say that? Lol.


What has IM done recently in his standard armor that makes you think he'd beat Colossus in a fist fight?

Originally posted by KingD19
Why am I not surprised you'd say that? Lol.


What has IM done recently in his standard armor that makes you think he'd beat Colossus in a fist fight? Oh come on man! Didn't you know Aunt May would beat Colossus in a fist fight?

Originally posted by KingD19
Why am I not surprised you'd say that? Lol.


What has IM done recently in his standard armor that makes you think he'd beat Colossus in a fist fight?
I dunno, not get his ass handed to him by venom on fire. And fight hulk several times and holding his own.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I dunno, not get his ass handed to him by venom on fire. And fight hulk several times and holding his own. Venom stated that the fire isn't doing anything other than pissing him off. Context is your friend.

She does do Kegels.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I dunno, not get his ass handed to him by venom on fire. And fight hulk several times and holding his own.

He didn't get his ass handed to him by Venom. Venom didn't even hurt him. He jut had to deal with Venom being a f*cking huge blob in comparison to pretty much every other time he fought someone.

Colossus held his own against WWH for a bit, got a nod of respect that no one else got. Hulk basically said if I was normal, you'd be a good fight for me, but I'm not normal so you're out of luck.

Younger, much weaker teen Colossus fought Hulk for a bit. He lost, but he did okay for the time and came away from the fight with no injuries to speak of.


Which Hulk did Iron Man fight against?

I see you are back to making excuses again. Good.

And tony fought WWE far longer and didn't get his arms bended. But it's hilarious how some lip service is supposed to be something beyond everything. Tony has actually koed savage hulk.

Tony has fought virtually every hulk. He has actual victories over him too.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
If we are asking who the strongest non HH is it's obviously Abomination.

Wendigo is better

There is no way Wendigo is not class 100+

Who is the weakest class 100?

I'd probably say one of the heralds. Terrax displayed some super-strength and is supposed to be class 100, but he's been punked so many times.

Well officially neither sasquatch or wendigo are.

black bolt would not be on this list...

Originally posted by -K-M-
Well officially neither sasquatch or wendigo are. I thought Wendigo was. They are sometimes called to have Hulk like strength.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I thought Wendigo was. They are sometimes called to have Hulk like strength.

Yes he is, but handbooks say sasquatch and wendigo aren't class 100 when they clearly are. For decades even when sasquatch was doing countless class 100 feats he was only listed as class 70. Only recently they changed his entry.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes he is, but handbooks say sasquatch and wendigo aren't class 100 when they clearly are. For decades even when sasquatch was doing countless class 100 feats he was only listed as class 70. Only recently they changed his entry. Didn't they say Wendigo was as strong as the Hulk in the World War Wendigo arc?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Didn't they say Wendigo was as strong as the Hulk in the World War Wendigo arc?

Yes. But in the handbooks he's sub class 100.

Never saw a Wendigo handbook entry.

Originally posted by leonidas
black bolt would not be on this list...

Eh, I wasn't sure. I know he throws down with anybody, but I was just thinking strength feats. He is a tough customer.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Never saw a Wendigo handbook entry.

Check the wendigo respect thread I made. All there.

Just checked my collection of hard cover handbooks. There it states Wendigo can lift 85 tons. That's way off.

Wow, 85 tons?
I guess its possible. Maybe he gets props because of claws, savagery, and damage resistance...

Super Skrull's strength is at a set 100 ton.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Are we asking who the weakest class 100 is?

It's Ben, not sure why people are posting Uber feats

If we are asking who the strongest non HH is it's obviously Abomination.

We were asking who are Class 100s, despite being seen as weaker.

Hence, I'd argue Wendigo/Sasquatch are not applicable, as we all see them as Class 100s.

I stand by Booster, in the spirit of the thread

Rage. He's kinda like Hulk as More Anger = More Power, and he's a legit class 100 but he's so rarely used you don't get to see him do anything. Also nobody can get mad quite like Hulk.

^He's listed as a class 100 sometimes, but his feats are all over the place.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We were asking who are Class 100s, despite being seen as weaker.

Hence, I'd argue Wendigo/Sasquatch are not applicable, as we all see them as Class 100s.

I stand by Booster, in the spirit of the thread You don't think Sasquatch is Class 100?

Yeah. He's technically Class 100 as he can get to that point. But the amount of anger it takes for him to build up and the amount of panel time he's given means his feats do get everywhere.

He's never really gotten the chance to truly shine as a legit CL 100 so I think it's safer to put him on the low end.

Originally posted by krisblaze
^He's listed as a class 100 sometimes, but his feats are all over the place. I think Rage is listed at 70 tons iirc.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think Rage is listed at 70 tons iirc.

He's listed at 70 tons like Gray Hulk is listed at 70 and Savage is listed at 90. They're supposed to be base level, but they usually start higher and can amp really fast so it doesn't make sense to start so low.

Rage is one i wouldnt have thought of. Excellent.

Korg and his brothers seem to fit the 100 ton bill.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's listed at 70 tons like Gray Hulk is listed at 70 and Savage is listed at 90. They're supposed to be base level, but they usually start higher and can amp really fast so it doesn't make sense to start so low. I think Rage has fought Hulk once and Namora but don't recall much from it.

What's Cage listed at these days?

Originally posted by tkitna
What's Cage listed at these days?

Cage is still billed at Class 30-40 I believe. However, he has long hit way above his weight class. Lifting feats I'm not really sure on as he mostly just punches people.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
You don't think Sasquatch is Class 100?

I see him as Class 100.

This thread is for the losers who nobody would believe are 100s.

Ouch

This is tough,because you can go by bio`s or feats of strength.And they usually contradict themselves.Going by bios,the characters that jump out at me are-The thing(85 tons),Namor(I think 95 tons)She Hulk was at one time (75 tons)But I know she is class 100 now!Some others I can think of off the top of my head would include.Titania,Orca,Rhino,Charlie27,Adam Warlock,the Vision,and that`s about all I can think of unless i start breaking out the bio`s,Thanks good question!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I see him as Class 100.

This thread is for the losers who nobody would believe are 100s.

nice summation.

attuma maybe? mammoth in dc?

Originally posted by zom1967
This is tough,because you can go by bio`s or feats of strength.And they usually contradict themselves.Going by bios,the characters that jump out at me are-The thing(85 tons),Namor(I think 95 tons)She Hulk was at one time (75 tons)But I know she is class 100 now!Some others I can think of off the top of my head would include.Titania,Orca,Rhino,Charlie27,Adam Warlock,the Vision,and that`s about all I can think of unless i start breaking out the bio`s,Thanks good question! Namor is listed at 100 tons while in contact with water and 85 ton land. Which makes sense if you look at his fights with Thing.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Namor is listed at 100 tons while in contact with water and 85 ton land. Which makes sense if you look at his fights with Thing. Good point,in fact his power drops quickly when out of the water.It`s been a while but I remember reading he gets down to the 40 ton range in as little as 5 or 6 hours,unless he can get access to a pond or something?

Originally posted by leonidas
nice summation.

attuma maybe? mammoth in dc? My friend I haven`t posted here in a long time.I am what is known back in the day,as a Marvel zombie.Nothing against D.C,Ijust never got into there characters after watching super friends,I thought it was to childish and was a child at the time.I know it is different know,but that`s where my bias of D.C came from.

Namor's a great pick in that his power fluctuations can actually be explained.

Doc Samson?

I might be over-estimating quite a bit here though.

See i've never considered him Class 100.

Yeah he's around 60 probs.

Has some sick feats but don't they all...

Rage matched strength with Thor in Avengers.

He's got some great feats, but some really, really low ones as well.

I suppose we'll never get to see much due to lack of popularity/being a shit character

Originally posted by leonidas
nice summation.

attuma maybe? mammoth in dc?

Yes! Maybe Mammomax. Because I think he looks stupid.

Sounds like something that should be done monthly as a health precaution...

Originally posted by zopzop
But he also beat Abomination multiple times and schooled Doc Samson easier than Savage Hulk ever did. He crushed the West Coast Avengers.
He hasn't fought Abomination more than 3 times IIRC. And lost once. And then another feat, Fixit has totally humiliated Yellowjacket and one-shotted Renassaince/Post-Heroes Reborn/Heroes Return Iron Man

Originally posted by riv6672
Rage is one i wouldnt have thought of. Excellent.
I thougt he was class 100when fighting and class 85 while not fighting or wrecking anything.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Rage matched strength with Thor in Avengers.
WUT?

WUT indeed.
Abhi is either giving Rage mad props, or suggesting Thor isnt all that powerful, owing to Rage not being considered top tier....

It happened in Avengers the 326.

Dont think HulkisHulk or i said it didnt happen.
And, i just wondered at your reasoning for mentioning it, in regards to the subject being discussed.

Doop
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140313234920/marveldatabase/images/f/f0/All-New_Doop_Vol_1_1_Granov_Variant_Textless.jpg

So cute!

Danger
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061219212604/marveldatabase/images/9/92/Dangerroomhumanoid.jpg

Originally posted by complexbrother
Danger
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061219212604/marveldatabase/images/9/92/Dangerroomhumanoid.jpg
She's a bit difficlut to classify

Grace Choi
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3dzj7984Y1qbgsmko1_400.jpg

Originally posted by complexbrother
Grace Choi
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3dzj7984Y1qbgsmko1_400.jpg
whose that?

She was in the Outsiders revamp several years back.

http://www.comicbreak.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Invincible_sale.jpg

Air Walker
http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/4/42/Air-Walker.jpg

Colossus is class 100+ 7/7, Sasquatch 7/7 and Namor is class 100 6/7 who's still stronger than The Thing class 90, Captain Brittan class 95, I would consider them low tier and I believe She Hulk to be stronger than the people above

Originally posted by the Darkone
Colossus is class 100+ 7/7, Sasquatch 7/7 and Namor is class 100 6/7 who's still stronger than The Thing class 90, Captain Brittan class 95, I would consider them low tier and I believe She Hulk to be stronger than the people above

She Hulk is definitely not stronger then all those you listed... unless your talking about Jupiter Suit era but she lost that upgrade. She capped out recently as class 85 when she was in a weight lifting competition with Thing and even the Mayan Gods said Sasquatch > She-Hulk

Good point on the She-Hulk/Thing deal. As I remember they were pressing 85 tons and She-Hulk said that was enough but Ben wanted more iirc. Though that could have been bravado.

Ben at 85 is how i prefer him.
She-Hulk at the same with the occasional spike is understandable.

Her saying that's enough doesn't mean that was her cap.

Originally posted by carver9
Her saying that's enough doesn't mean that was her cap. Wasn't her body language suggesting it though?

Okay, this She-Hulk exchange is too much like my prom night for comfort...

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Wasn't her body language suggesting it though?

No. She wasn't even straining with the 85 tons.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120293/4015413-the+thing+and+she+hulk+weight+lifting+1.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
No. She wasn't even straining with the 85 tons.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120293/4015413-the+thing+and+she+hulk+weight+lifting+1.jpg
This can be settled by listing some of her best lifting feats. I can't recall even one. Any She Hulk fans out there?

She tore through the advertisements in a comic to get from one scene to another.

Pretty decent strength ft.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/37620/791402-0shehulkrex.jpg

And this helps. Classic planet destroying and sun core ripping out Drax said that She Hulk is stronger than him.

http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-13.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media-full/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-14.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media-full/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-15.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
Pretty decent strength ft.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/37620/791402-0shehulkrex.jpg

And this helps. Classic planet destroying and sun core ripping out Drax said that She Hulk is stronger than him.

http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-13.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media-full/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-14.jpg.html
http://s764.photobucket.com/user/panthergodII/media-full/Marvel%20Cosmic/Drax%20owned/AvengersAnnual16-15.jpg.html
Lifting feats Carvster, lifting feats.

Is that a T-Rex? They weighed at most 9-12 tons no?

Damn i loved Byrne's take on Shulkie...

Originally posted by zopzop
Lifting feats Carvster, lifting feats.

Is that a T-Rex? They weighed at most 9-12 tons no?

If someone is said to be stronger than another person and in the same comic, overpower said person, that should be enough. Everything doesn't thrive off of lifting fts.

Wait, so when She-Hulk says 85 tons is 'it' for her, we disregard it.

But if Drax says She-Hulk is stronger than him, we totally regard it?

Originally posted by carver9
If someone is said to be stronger than another person and in the same comic, overpower said person, that should be enough. Everything doesn't thrive off of lifting fts. I agree. There is also narrative stating She-Hulk was as strong as the Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait, so when She-Hulk says 85 tons is 'it' for her, we disregard it.

But if Drax says She-Hulk is stronger than him, we totally regard it?

Never said that was her max.

She overpowered Drax twice in the same comic. I think that scene was pretty obvious iyam.

So what is your interpretation when working out at the gym, and your brah says 'Whew! 10kg. That's it for me.'

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So what is your interpretation when working out at the gym, and your brah says 'Whew! 10kg. That's it for me.' I'd say he was close to his max.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I agree. There is also narrative stating She-Hulk was as strong as the Hulk.

Don't know about that.

Here a calm Hulk holds up a mountain twice the size of the Appalachian. She Hulk tries to help but does nothing. Look what Hulk tells her.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259420/Hulk8.jpg.html

She's the second strongest there and guess who was there with them?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259411/Hulk5.jpg.html

This Ironman was pretty got darn strong during that era. Know he was above 85 tons.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So what is your interpretation when working out at the gym, and your brah says 'Whew! 10kg. That's it for me.'

She didn't want to test it to see if she could push forward. Looking at the scene, she was handling the 85 tons with ease. No trouble at all. Didn't look like her max to me.

Here is another weight lifting scene. Despite Cains words his body language was telling a different story. That was Cains bravado talking, he wasn't ready to admit that his power was fading.

http://i.imgur.com/HbgG9vys.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R9cBfE6s.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Don't know about that.

Here a calm Hulk holds up a mountain twice the size of the Appalachian. She Hulk tries to help but does nothing. Look what Hulk tells her.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259420/Hulk8.jpg.html

She's the second strongest there and guess who was there with them?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259411/Hulk5.jpg.html

This Ironman was pretty got darn strong during that era. Know he was above 85 tons. She-Hulk don't appear to be at 100%. Is that a rehash of Secret Wars?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Here is another weight lifting scene. Despite Cains words his body language was telling a different story. That was Cains bravado talking, he wasn't ready to admit that his power was fading.

http://i.imgur.com/HbgG9vys.jpg http://i.imgur.com/R9cBfE6s.jpg

His body language is different than hers though. He's straining whereas she was smiling and talking casually.

Also, yes, they redid secret wars. She was 100%.

Originally posted by carver9
His body language is different than hers though. He's straining whereas she was smiling and talking casually.

Also, yes, they redid secret wars. She was 100%. There is another scan from the 90's showing She-Hulk lifting 75 tons, I think she did 3 reps of it. There is also another one showing Thing doing 85 tons and even one with Rogue repping 47 tons.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
There is another scan from the 90's showing She-Hulk lifting 75 tons, I think she did 3 reps of it. There is also another one showing Thing doing 85 tons and even one with Rogue repping 47 tons.

Yeah, there's scenes of each but all of them became stronger after that. Including Rogue. Those are the classic days.

She Hulk strength will be settled this week. She is about to fight Doc Sampson.

Originally posted by carver9
She Hulk strength will be settled this week. She is about to fight Doc Sampson. In their last fight She-Hulk trashed him iirc. What issue are they fighting in?

Captain America and the Mighty Avengers #3.

Originally posted by carver9
She Hulk strength will be settled this week. She is about to fight Doc Sampson.
Beating someone in a fight doesn't necessarily mean they are stronger than them.

An MMA fighter or Boxer would beat the living hell out of a powerlifter. But I don't think any MMA fighter or Boxer could lift anywhere near the weight that a powerlifter could.

Originally posted by zopzop
Beating someone in a fight doesn't necessarily mean they are stronger than them.

An MMA fighter or Boxer would beat the living hell out of a powerlifter. But I don't think any MMA fighter or Boxer could lift anywhere near the weight that a powerlifter could.

So what advantages would She Hulk have over Sampson to give her the win since you're telling me stats doesn't have a thing to do with the fight between both?

Originally posted by carver9
So what advantages would She Hulk have over Sampson to give her the win since you're telling me stats doesn't have a thing to do with the fight between both?
She's the better fighter. Plain and simple.

Before he died, Samson admitted he held back/doubted himself throughout his hero career and it hindered him. Will writers remember this? Or just ignore it and do what they usually do?

Knowing Marvel, they'll ignore it and job him out.

Originally posted by zopzop
She's the better fighter. Plain and simple.

Before he died, Samson admitted he held back/doubted himself throughout his hero career and it hindered him. Will writers remember this? Or just ignore it and do what they usually do?

Knowing Marvel, they'll ignore it and job him out.

Better fighter. What are you basing this off of?

Sampson is more powerful than we know since his strength comes from his hair but what hero doesn't hold back? She Hulk holds back as well. Hell, I would say she held back when she punched Sampson across states.

Originally posted by zopzop
Lifting feats Carvster, lifting feats.

Is that a T-Rex? They weighed at most 9-12 tons no?
Idk, it's still pretty impressive that she's basically shotputting 10 tons. No way someone like Luke Cage, Spider-Man, or Venom could do that.

It's not on its own enough to suggest 100 ton+ strength, but it's nothing to dismiss.

Originally posted by carver9
Better fighter. What are you basing this off of?

Sampson is more powerful than we know since his strength comes from his hair but what hero doesn't hold back? She Hulk holds back as well. Hell, I would say she held back when she punched Sampson across states.
You see her fight with Abomination? She's definitely the better h2h fighter.

And regarding the punching across the state thing, wasn't that during her Jupiter Suit phase (because she trained in her Walters form and her She Hulk form got buffed). She was stronger than Hercules and she beat up Champion too. She doesn't have that level of strength anymore.

@Omega Vision
Low end CL100s use 50+ton tanks as frisbees. That's why her T-Rex twirl isn't all that impressive IMHO.

Any scans of low end Class 100's tossing tanks like Frisbees?