Superman vs Thor

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Time Immemorial
Sun dipped Kal

vs

Thor in Warrior's Madness.

Amp's last for whole fight.

No BFR, Bloodlusted.

Stoic
Well first we will need to know how many times stronger the sun amplification makes Superman, and that would probably depend on how long he was in the star, or very close to it?

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Stoic
Well first we will need to know how many times stronger the sun amplification makes Superman, and that would probably depend on how long he was in the star, or very close to it?

Close and say 10 hours.

Star428
Superman still wins. Warrior Madness only makes Thor stronger. It doesn't make him faster. Superman would still outclass him in speed especially with the extended sun amp.

pym-ftw
Why wouldn't he be faster? His speed is directly linked to his strength.

Supes probably wins, his amp in Owaw was pretty massive.

ZenGardenOP
Originally posted by Star428
Superman still wins. Warrior Madness only makes Thor stronger. It doesn't make him faster. Superman would still outclass him in speed especially with the extended sun amp. I noticed your sig, you know that Batman has recently beaten Superman and the Justice League right? They were jokerized but a win is a win smile

Reflassshh
Considering that a tiny blast of sunlight made him went from being pimpslapped by Apollo to stomp him I'd say confidently that with ten hours he'd lolstomp Thor.

Star428
Originally posted by ZenGardenOP
I noticed your sig, you know that Batman has recently beaten Superman and the Justice League right? They were jokerized but a win is a win smile


Yeah, I've heard about it. I haven't read any of the new stuff after the reboot though.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Considering that a tiny blast of sunlight made him went from being pimpslapped by Apollo to stomp him I'd say confidently that with ten hours he'd lolstomp Thor. ...did you just call Apollo trying to kill Superman with a concentrated blast a "tiny blast?"

Star428
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Why wouldn't he be faster? His speed is directly linked to his strength.

Supes probably wins, his amp in Owaw was pretty massive.



He might get a little faster but not nearly enough to make much difference to Superman who would be even faster than usual with an extended sun amp.

LordofBrooklyn
The biggest impediment is Thor's diminished mental capacity as the Madness grows.

His warrior skill wouldn't be as a great a factor in his favor.

quanchi112
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The biggest impediment is Thor's diminished mental capacity as the Madness grows.

His warrior skill wouldn't be as a great a factor in his favor. Based on ?

Golgo13
Superman.

abhilegend
Balder directly said that warrior madness hampers Thor and he could be beaten by a lesser opponent.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Balder directly said that warrior madness hampers Thor and he could be beaten by a lesser opponent. Post the scan.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Post the scan.

You don't need a scan if you actually know Thor's canon.

You speak about writer's intent, what did you think BLOOD AND THUNDER indicated when everyone thought Thor was in Warrior Madness?

quanchi112
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You don't need a scan if you actually know Thor's canon.

You speak about writer's intent, what did you think BLOOD AND THUNDER indicated when everyone thought Thor was in Warrior Madness? Thor was more effective in Blood and Thunder. He was doing things previously he was unable to do yet you use that as some kind of point which hurts your case. You can't prove it.

Wait until Abhi posts the scan so I can explain it to him.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor was more effective in Blood and Thunder. He was doing things previously he was unable to do yet you use that as some kind of point which hurts your case. You can't prove it.

Wait until Abhi posts the scan so I can explain it to him.

You make this too easy.

Thor displayed MORE POWER, and in equal terms displayed LESS skill and tactical ability.

That would be his undoing as I've stated numerous times.

quanchi112
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You make this too easy.

Thor displayed MORE POWER, and in equal terms displayed LESS skill and tactical ability.

That would be his undoing as I've stated numerous times. He was more effective in blood and thunder. Look at how he took on the surfer and look at how he fared against him more recently.

Thor from blood and thunder was extremely formidable. He'd break OWAW Superman.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by pym-ftw
...did you just call Apollo trying to kill Superman with a concentrated blast a "tiny blast?" Been awhile since I've read it, but I don't remember that being the case, could be wrong though.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was more effective in blood and thunder. Look at how he took on the surfer and look at how he fared against him more recently.

Thor from blood and thunder was extremely formidable. He'd break OWAW Superman. laughing out loud

abhilegend
http://i.imgur.com/4VmtOvM.jpg

Thor fought Adam Warlock in Warrior Madness and didn't look any stronger than usual.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim01165.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim04Thor166.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim05.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim06.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim08.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim09.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHim10.jpg

Thor fought Merged Hulk in warrior madness and still looked same as always.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk36Hulk440.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk37.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk38.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk39.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk40.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHulk41.jpg

Not to mention Zeus in Warrior Madness was restrained by Thor and She-Hulk. I doubt either Thor or Zeus were ten times stronger than usual when they went in Warrior Madness.

http://i.imgur.com/qgdku1S.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kjaNv1Y.jpg

krisblaze
Superman gets a boost to everything.

Thor gets a strength boost.

Spite smile

quanchi112
Thou MIGHT fall.

Or Choose to slay.

I never said all writers acknowledged the ten times amp but one writer clearly did. Just like some writers have given Superman a breathing apparatus green lantern construct to breathe in space while others have not. The scan is indeed canon whether you like it or not.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
laughing out loud I cited evidence to support my claims. Laugh at logic and evidence, smile.

abhilegend
So a statement is now taken over actual in combat scenes? Its a contradicting statement and is not supported by anything remotely in canon.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149643/3925713-2.jpg

But hey, Thor said Hyperion hits harder than mangog. That must be true too.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
So a statement is now taken over actual in combat scenes? Its a contradicting statement and is not supported by anything remotely in canon.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149643/3925713-2.jpg

But hey, Thor said Hyperion hits harder than mangog. That must be true too. You just chose one statement and ignored he might choose to slay from the same comic showing bias.


The scan is canon just like Superman needing a green lantern construct to breathe in space. You can disagree but the scan is still in continuity.

smile

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
I cited evidence to support my claims. Laugh at logic and evidence, smile. Logic and evidence? In your post!!!??

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Logic and evidence? In your post!!!?? Yes, as canon comic clearly stating and reaffirming my claim. Your claim of infinite weight is not supported by your scan.

smile

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, as canon comic clearly stating and reaffirming my claim. Your claim of infinite weight is not supported by your scan.

smile Guess someone needs new glasses sad

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Guess someone needs new glasses sad It never states infinite weight.


Feel free to point it out.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
It never states infinite weight.


Feel free to point it out. What do the 'infinite pages' stands for to you?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
What do the 'infinite pages' stands for to you? The book violates the laws of physics so attaching infinite weight isn't logical. My claims are proven word for word. Yours are not.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
The book violates the laws of physics so attaching infinite weight isn't logical. My claims are proven word for word. Yours are not. facepalm2

If it bothers you so much, why don't you make a fan fic where superman doesn't lift the book and voldemort beats fully grown-up men?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
facepalm2

If it bothers you so much, why don't you make a fan fic where superman doesn't lift the book and voldemort beats a fully grown-up man? He lifted it with an alternate version of Marvel. Ultraman did it alone. laughing

Voldemort kills men in the film and beats Harry as well. Facts, how little they mean to you.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
He lifted it with an alternate version of Marvel. Ultraman did it alone. laughing

Voldemort kills men in the film and beats Harry as well. Facts, how little they mean to you. He still lifted it laughing out loud

Glad you brought it up, superman has beaten that ultraman multiple times so your point is...?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
He still lifted it laughing out loud

Glad you brought it up, superman has beaten that ultraman multiple times so your point is...? superman is more formidable than he is but clearly half as strong in this story anyways.

He lifted it with another man lifting half of it.

No infinite weight mentioned.

laughing out loud

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
superman is more formidable than he is but clearly half as strong in this story anyways.

He lifted it with another man lifting half of it.

No infinite weight mentioned.

laughing out loud Okay they lifted a book with infinite pages (thus infinite weight going by logic), stated in the comic.

As logic doesn't seem to go along with you and viceversa, I'll leave it at that thumb up

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Okay they lifted a book with infinite pages (thus infinite weight going by logic), stated in the comic.

As logic doesn't seem to go along with you and viceversa, I'll leave it at that thumb up The book did not have infinite size thus it broke the laws of physics.

My claim was stated word for word. Yours was not. Undeniable.

You are slain.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
Theook did not have infinite size thus it broke the laws of physics.

My claim was stated word for word. Yours was not. Undeniable.

You are slain. Theook??

So you're saying something that's stated to have infinite pages somehow doesn't have infinite weight? Like I said, illogical.

krisblaze
Seriously, this is a non-fight.

Hell, I'd give WM thor worse odds than regular Thor.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Theook??

So you're saying something that's stated to have infinite pages somehow doesn't have infinite weight? Like I said, illogical. The book.

It has to have infinite size as well. It didn't. You continue to avoid that and ignore the fact the scan never once alludes to infinite weight and that Marvel needed to aid him.

Thor his his own feats he doesn't need some other man to help him lift something.

laughing out loud

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
The book.

It has to have infinite size as well. It didn't. You continue to avoid that and ignore the fact the scan never once alludes to infinite weight and that Marvel needed to aid him.

Thor his his own feats he doesn't need some other man to help him lift something.

laughing out loud Where in the comic it is stated or at least implied that the book doesn't have infinite weight? Everything leads to the opposite in fact.

That's because he never lifted infinity I guess. smile

Superman wins no matter how hard you try to get my approval.

krisblaze
^Superman winning has nothing to do with the feat in beyond....

Star428
Originally posted by krisblaze
Seriously, this is a non-fight.

Hell, I'd give WM thor worse odds than regular Thor.


Yeah, me too.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by krisblaze
^Superman winning has nothing to do with the feat in beyond.... I know, just clarifying smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
Where in the comic it is stated or at least implied that the book doesn't have infinite weight? Everything leads to the opposite in fact.

That's because he never lifted infinity I guess. smile

Superman wins no matter how hard you try to get my approval. Your claim. Onus is on you. I don't have to disprove your claim you need to prove it.

laughing out loud

I disagree but a feat he needed another man to help him achieve is kind of ridiculous imo.

Reflassshh
Originally posted by quanchi112
Your claim. Onus is on you. I don't have to disprove your claim you need to prove it.

laughing out loud

I disagree but a feat he needed another man to help him achieve is kind of ridiculous imo. I don't have to prove anything since the comic does that very well.

When you lift infinity you can't take any risk. That's something Thor will never know since if the opportunity raises they will probably call Hyperion or Sentry smile

9jaboy
i think superman just stands there and lets thor do his thing.....when thor gets tired,superman then leaves him to find and rearrange thanos teeth for him.

Khazra Reborn
This isn't really a fair fight, Superman had a pretty solid amp in OWAW, and Thor in B&T wasn't actually amped, until he got the power gem of course.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
This isn't really a fair fight, Superman had a pretty solid amp in OWAW, and Thor in B&T wasn't actually amped, until he got the power gem of course.

It's more then fair.

Thor gets 10x amp

Supes gets 10 hours of sun.

It's only not fair if Warriors Madness is not as impressive as people have led on.

Khazra Reborn
Thor has never been in Warriors Madness on panel, we have no idea what he'd be capable of.

h1a8
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sun dipped Kal

vs

Thor in Warrior's Madness.

Amp's last for whole fight.

No BFR, Bloodlusted.

Spite! Superman is already stronger than WM Thor and insanely faster (which makes the fight spite just because of speed).

Sun dipped Kal is astronomically stronger than Thor. This is spite of the highest level.

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by h1a8
Spite! Superman is already stronger than WM Thor and insanely faster (which makes the fight spite just because of speed).

Sun dipped Kal is astronomically stronger than Thor. This is spite of the highest level.

Quit crying

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Thor has never been in Warriors Madness on panel, we have no idea what he'd be capable of.

Right..... laughing laughing

krisblaze
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
It's more then fair.

Thor gets 10x amp

Supes gets 10 hours of sun.

It's only not fair if Warriors Madness is not as impressive as people have led on.

Haha, what?

Thor's amp is to his strength alone, which is something he rarely needs.

iceman24567
Originally posted by h1a8
Spite! Superman is already stronger than WM Thor and insanely faster (which makes the fight spite just because of speed).

Sun dipped Kal is astronomically stronger than Thor. This is spite of the highest level. LOL no

Khazra Reborn
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Right..... laughing laughing

All right then Mr. know it all, go ahead and tell me all the times Thor has been in Warriors Madness on panel.

zom1967
I would have to go with supes here,even though i have been a marvel zombie for 42 years.And thor is one of my faves,supes is just too fast and strong.And i have mad respect for him for being the original and best super hero of all time!

quanchi112
Originally posted by Reflassshh
I don't have to prove anything since the comic does that very well.

When you lift infinity you can't take any risk. That's something Thor will never know since if the opportunity raises they will probably call Hyperion or Sentry smile Ultaman did so himself so your point is Superman doubted himself which is awesome.

You still have not proven your claim.

Sabro
Thor wins as always between these two

Time Immemorial
Originally posted by Sabro
Thor wins as always between these two

Hmm and what gives you this opinion other then spaying words down on a keyboard?

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by zom1967
And i have mad respect for him for being the original and best super hero of all time!

WELCOME TO THE HOUSE OF EL!

naurtoisbeast
i think superman will win here

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