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I did not make this, credit belongs Thepsacelord from Narutoforums. Just posting to see if you guys agree or not, also the characters within each tier are not ranked from strongest to weakest:




Top Tier
Beldam Spirits
Abeloth
The Father
The Son
The Daughter

High Tier
Luke Skywalker
Yoda
-
Darth Sidious
Lord Viliate
Darth Caedus
Exar Kun
Darth Plaeugis

High-Mid Tier
Revan
Jedi Exile
Hero of Typhon
Galen Marek
Mace Windu
Kyle Katarn
Nomi Sunrider
Thon
Anakin Skywalker
Cade Skywalker
Satele Shan
Kao Cen Darach
Obi-Wan-Kenobi
-
Marka Ragnos
Darth Nihilus
Darth Tenebrous
Ulic-Qel-Droma
Darth Zannah
Darth Bane
Darth Treya
Darth Vader
Darth Malgus
Darth Malak
Tulak Hord
Ajunta Pall
Karnass Muur
XoXaan
Freedon Nadd
Naga Sadow
Darth Tyranus
Darth Nox
Scourge (Emperor's Wrath)
Ludo Kreesh
Darth Kyrat

Mid-Mid Tier
Ven Zallow
Kit Fisto
Plo Koon
Quinlan Voss
Bastille Shan
Qui-Gon-Jinn
Ki-adi-Mundi
Shaak Ti
-
Vincidan
Darth Sion
Darth Maul
Darth Bandon
Savage Opress
Asajj Ventress
Xanatos
Adraas
-
General Grievous

Low-Mid Tier
Luminara
Barriss Offee
Ahsoka Tano
Aayla Secura
Kazdan Paratus
Rahm Kota
Saesee Tiin
Agen Kolar
-
Maris Brood
Aurra Sing
-
Durge
Pre Vizsla
Boba Fett
Jango Fett
Cad Bane
Magma Guards/Run of the Mill Jedi, and Sith

Low Tier
Jace Malcom
Captain Rex
Commander Cody
Han Solo
Chewbacca
Droideka (Destroyer Droids)

High-level Fooder
"Fully Trained" Military Troopers (Mandalorians, Republic Troopers, Clone Troopers, Rebel Army, and Stormtroopers)
Stronger Droids (Super Battle Droid, Commando Droids)

Low-level Fooder
Regular Battle Droids
"Untrained" Person

Luminara should be Mid-Mid tier, and Asajj Mid-High tier. Maul should also me Mid-High tier.

I was making a response to this, but damn it's long. Overall consensus: It's on the whole fairly solid, with some noticeable errors.

Horrible. Dude doesn't even know what mangaguards are called.

I only read the first couple tiers, does it get go off the deep end from there?

EDIT: It seems so.

...I feel like Solo and Chewie were badly underestimated. They're not heroes for nothing.

Bane should be middle or low tier

Aside from disagreeing with plenty of them, the tiers are each massively broad.

I noticed that as well.

Zannah, Bane, Adraas, Nomi, Malak, Satele, Thon, Darach, should all be mid tier.

Tulak and most of the Exiles are featless.

Maul, Grievous, and Plo need to be moved up

I do wonder why they put Exar in high tier when almost every other major sithlord was lower. I'd put him and Plageuis and probably Caedus down with the rest.

Originally posted by carthage
most of the Exiles are featless.

With the exiles, we have direct feats of 2 of them, and the big 5 were all supposed to be close rivals, so lumping them all together works for me.

It's mostly because of how he performed against DE Luke and how he did it as a Spirit and Thon's Ambria feat being applied to him.

Your lists sucks, don't do it again.

And who is Darth Kyrat?

Top Tier
Beldam Spirits
Abeloth
The Father
The Son
The Daughter

This tier should not exist.

First off tiers are fictional bullshit for fans who like to overly categorize

Second the list is so out of wack that my mind is hurting.

Spirits above the ones
Abeloth above the father
Kun in a higher tier than Nihilis
Maul among people like bandon and xanatos.

Those are just a few of the grievances that I saw

> Complains that tiers are bullshit for people who are too meticulous about fictional characters

> Begins re-organizing the tiers

Reorganization doesnt make it any less bullshit

How anyone can put Maul a whole tier below Obi-Wan is beyond me.

Almost every guy from the tier below Obi-Wan is arguably his superior.

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Almost every guy from the tier below Obi-Wan is arguably his superior.

Ehhhh not really. Maul is the only one I'd actually back winning a majority against him out of ten, maybe Asajj or Savage too.

Oh and Bandon of course, Bandon kicks his ass.

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Almost every guy from the tier below Obi-Wan is arguably his superior.



The only who who is arguable is Maul.

Might be missing a few hmm

carthage- You should bump my tier thread with your objective listings for Bane and Zannah.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
How anyone can put Maul a whole tier below Obi-Wan is beyond me. because Kenobi soloed Dooku

Ehm, I do not recall anything of the sort, but regardless that's not really something Maul isn't capable of doing.

Disgusting.

You really think that Kenobi > Vader, Kenobi > Nihilus ?

Originally posted by Nalaniel
You really think that Kenobi > Vader, Kenobi > Nihilus ? no to both. And Dooku isn't either

Originally posted by Nalaniel
You really think that Kenobi > Vader, Kenobi > Nihilus ?

Well the tier list doesn't say that so...

Originally posted by Nalaniel
You really think that Kenobi > Vader, Kenobi > Nihilus ?

Good thing that they're not in the tier below him.

Even him being in the same tier as most of those guys is ridiculous.

He's definitely better than Bane and Zannah

Then what does the dot between Obi-Wan and Marka Ragnos mean?

Sith and Jedi.

Oh. -_-

Originally posted by WildBantha88
because Kenobi soloed Dooku

Hahaha

Good one

Oh nice. Just like in rankings in my country. Dooku is below Kenobi. Now I'm waiting for Anakin and Maul being below Kit Fisto. And Nihilus above everyone because his drain >>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole universe.

KMC becomes worse and worse...

Originally posted by McP
Oh nice. Just like in rankings in my country. Dooku is below Kenobi. Now I'm waiting for Anakin and Maul being below Kit Fisto. And Nihilus above everyone because his drain >>>>>>>>>>>>> the whole universe.

KMC becomes worse and worse...


But on the other hand, youtubers aren't better. Vader is better duelist then Yoda, Smoke-Tholme can beat Zannah and Shaak Ti and Plo Koon are better then Dooku and Maul.


I have no words...

Why isn't Mara and Ben in this list?

More Skywalkers, damnit!

Zannah really would lose to most of the people on the list barring non force sensitives, Ancient Sith spirits, and low tier TOR fodder

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Oh. -_-

LOL

Okay, the NJO is WAY underrepresented. They need to be brought up to par.

Originally posted by ILS
carthage- You should bump my tier thread with your objective listings for Bane and Zannah.

I'm still butthurt and I've been crying into my pillow nightly that you have Tiin >> Malgus, Bulq, Savage, Krayt, and Katarn. I can't in good conscience bump it, forgive me..

High Tier
Luke Skywalker
Yoda
-
Darth Sidious
Lord Viliate
Darth Caedus
Exar Kun
Darth Plaeugis

High-Mid Tier
Revan

Exar Kun and Revan are between thoze 2 categoriez....

ANd zome Rhand zorcererr are in thiz category too.. Or in the top tier...

----------Tier 10----------
Father (top)
Son (mid)
Daughter (mid)
Abeloth (mid)

----------Tier 9----------
Luke Skywalker (top)
Darth Sidious (top)
Yoda (top)
Darth Plagueis (mid)
Darth Vitiate (low)
Mother Talzin (low)

----------Tier 8----------
Mace Windu (top)
Count Dooku (top)
Darth Cadeus (top)
Galen Marek (top)
Darth Tenebrous (top)
Hero of Tython (top)
Darth Revan (top)
Darth Vader (mid)
Darth Bane (mid)
Darth Nihilus (mid)
Anakin Skywalker (mid)
Exar Kun (low)
Darth Venamis (low)
Darth Traya (low)
Lumiya (low)
Darth Malgus (low)
Darth Maul (low)
Satele Shan (low)
Darth Nyriss (low)

----------Tier 7----------
Obi-Wan Kenobi (top)
Darth Zannah (top)
Barsen'thor (top)
Vodo-Siosk Baas (top)
Meetra Surik (mid)
Scorgue (mid)
Nomi Sunrider (mid)
Ulic Qel-Dorma (mid)
Sora Bulq (mid)
Savage Opress (mid)
Plo Koon (mid)
Raskta Lsu (mid)
Darth Malak (mid)
Darth Baras (mid)
Kao Cen Darach (mid/low)
Asajj Ventress (mid/low)
Qui-Gon Jinn (mid/low)
Shaak Ti (low)
Agen Kolar (low)
Saesee Tiin (low)
Kit Fisto (low)
Darth Sion (low)
Kas'Im (low)
Kyle Katarn (low)
Ven Zallow (low)
Vandar Tokare (low)
Cin Drallig (low)
Anoon Bondara (low)
Depa Billaba (low)

----------Tier 6----------
Ki-Adi-Mundi (top)
Quinlan Vos (top)
Jerec (top)
Dessan (top)
Atris (top)
Adi Gallia (top)
Luminara Unduli (top)
Even Piell (top)
Yaddle (top)
Dark Woman (top)
Tholme (top)
Eeth Koth (top)
Oppo Rancisis (top)
Vrook Lamar (top)
Kavar (top)
Zez-Kai Ell (top)
Darth Bandon (top)
Lonna Vash (mid)
Coleman Trebor (mid)
Stass Allie (mid)
Coleman Kcaj (mid/low)
K'Kruhk (low)
Orgus Din (low)


I'm wondering about Grievous. Top Tier 6 or Low Tier 7

Originally posted by McP
I'm wondering about Grievous. Top Tier 6 or Low Tier 7 Originally posted by ILS
I think at this point it should just be illegal for certain people to talk about Grievous

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Why?

He's already killed/defeated some of the people you ranked him alongside, for a kick off.

cold war Jedi era eazly beat grievouz by a more laxizt uzage of their force power at direct attack....

Tartakovsky's CW? Not this again...

LoE, ROTS and TCW are somehow consistent: Grievous should be ranked below Kenobi, Ti or Drallig on neutral ground. But with some advantages on his side, he may even defeat them.

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Bane shouldn't be above any high tier PT Jedi, powerful Sith like Maul, Krayt, Kun, Malgus, and that list is all over the place imo

Bane isn't important right now Grievous is being mistreated and that's not okay

Was Bane really that bad...?

He would lose to everybody who is ranked low in his tier and most in the tier below him.

For a rough gauge, Adi Gallia would oneshot Bane.

If she was having an off-day.

Bane in all honesty is probably Gallia/Drallig/Luminara level skill, and in the force his best feats are with lightning. Most of his feats take place on nexuses, so it's next to impossible to determine his true powerlevel. He's never beaten anyone of note either, with his orbalisks he beat featless Jedi and Sith assassins but he had a nexus amp as well when he fought Raskta. He isnt very skilled

In all honesty not a bad list McP, Ulic, Kolar, Bulq, Kenobi Mundi, Plo, and Kyle should all be tier 8 and Kas'im, Bane, Satele, Zannah, tier 6 or low tier 7

Does anyone want to make a community Tier list like the Comics subforum? It would make it so people could stop getting reported for stupid reasons, and Bada can make it a sticky as well. Is anyone up for it? Honestly?

Narutoforums really has Exar Kun high. Like they think Kun's Amulet Blasts are at least equal to 200 Gigatons of TNT because of Turbolasers hitting the Massassi Temples and barely damaging them. Problem with that is Turbolasers hitting other parts of Yavin and just causing Forest fires. Like srsly.

Originally posted by carthage
Does anyone want to make a community Tier list like the Comics subforum?

Sure. But it will be impossible for me to agree, that Plo, Kenobi or Mundi shlould be in the same tier with Dooku, Mace or Vader. They are at least a tier below.
I really have no idea, why you want to place loosers and cowards like Mundi in the same tier with powerhouses like Vader.

I never stated Mundi, Plo, or Kenobi are in the same tier as Mace, Dooku, or Vader. The latter (Mace) honestly is a bit overrated, but skillfully speaking those three are both a tier or so above the duelists you listed.

See the newest thread I made for more details.

Originally posted by carthage
In all honesty not a bad list McP, Ulic, Kolar, Bulq, Kenobi Mundi, Plo, and Kyle should all be tier 8 and Kas'im, Bane, Satele, Zannah, tier 6 or low tier 7

Since I place Dooku Mace and Vader in Tier 8, I thought that you want place those guys in the same tier with them.

Dooku, Mace, and Vader are all more or less equally skilled (tier 9 duelists), I said that guys like Plo, Bulq, Mundi are all at least half a tier to a full tier beneath them.

Lmfao to Vader being skilled as Mace and Dooku. Vader does not have any lightsaber dueling feats to suggest that he is that good, Anakin yes, Vader no.

You can see how skilled Maul really is with this comparison here ;

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http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114474/3874491-battle5.png

You're forgetting the three panels Maul spent fighting them prior to that page, making the time of Maul defeating them roughly equivalent to Anakin's.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114474/4223557-battle4.jpg

It's better than Anakin's feat. He didn't get any shot from them, and destroyed them easier.

Too bad for you, it contradicts with your ''skill tier'' where Anakin one tier ahead of Maul.

You're totally right.

Not really. As I remember, every Magnaguard as it's own skill. Depends of how many Jedi it's fought etc.

I don't know how someone can put Mace at the same level with Asajj and Sora in the Force, or Shaak Ti, Mara and Plo is more powerful than Mace ?

He is at least powerful as Darth Maul and Dooku at TK, and he has also shatterpoint.

Originally posted by McP
Not really. As I remember, every Magnaguard as it's own skill. Depends of how many Jedi it's fought etc.

I don't remember that, still they are same level and TCW Darth Maul did better than Anakin.

So, is Nahdar Vebb aboce Anakin as well?

Originally posted by McP
So, is Nahdar Vebb aboce Anakin as well?

Nahdar Vebb fought against 4 magna at the same time ? I don't remember that, I remember when he defeated them one by one, even though that is irrelevant to the subject since clearly Nahdar is not in high level duelists tier.

Originally posted by Marco1907
I don't know how someone can put Mace at the same level with Asajj and Sora in the Force, or Shaak Ti, Mara and Plo is more powerful than Mace ?

He is at least powerful as Darth Maul and Dooku at TK, and he has also shatterpoint.

Additionally, y'know, the freaking Palpatine fight!

He had some help from the B-team to absorb the initial rush, but no-one did that well again against Sidious until Dark Empire, and a lot of it was his force defense. He could block lightning better than Yoda could.


Oh, and from the first CW, the Grievous chest crush.

Originally posted by Q99
He could block lightning better than Yoda could.



Let's not go overboard.

I don't remember Yoda screaming from the pain of Sidious's FL. And Yoda was deflecting it with his bare hands no less.

But as for the rest of your post, yes it's pretty obvious Mace > Maul in the Force just looking at their fights with Palpatine.

The Op's list is better than anything you guys are saying.