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Well, i think this is a good match up.

Assuming this is Wrecker at his best, non power sharing self, i'm giving him the win here.

Kalibak hands down.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Kalibak hands down.
That IS how they surrender on Apokolips.

All kidding aside, while not low ending Kalibak, 90% of the time we see Wrecker, he's got his power spread out. I really think at full strength, this'd be fairly even.
After that, its choosing between two guys with more potential than wins, and i think Wrecker is the better of the two.

I'm the guy who made the wrecking crew respect thread. Issue is wrecker is all over the map powerwise. He even has abilities he hasn't used in 20 years. At his very best he has given thor a hard time, but that was many many many years ago

Kalibak is stronger, more durable and not sure if he has his pre 52 upgrade or not..... If he does then it's a stomp

All well and good, you're definitely not just picking a name out of a hat.
I'm agreeing on the all over the map, in regards to Wrecker, too.
But, if we pin him down in Istanbul (was Constantinople), he does indeed have a WIDE range of powers, (absorbing and projecting energy; creating illusions, force field, minor earthquakes, teleportation, and can mentally control any weak-minded individual -cough-Kalibak-cough- touching the crowbar). Plus he can straight up go toe to toe, uh, hoof.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I'm the guy who made the wrecking crew respect thread. Issue is wrecker is all over the map powerwise. He even has abilities he hasn't used in 20 years. At his very best he has given thor a hard time, but that was many many many years ago

Kalibak is stronger, more durable and not sure if he has his pre 52 upgrade or not..... If he does then it's a stomp

I think both Kalibak and Wrecker suffer from the same, endless jobber, syndrome

Kalibak's a shit character, so that's okay though

The Wrecker that fought the Avengers, I would give him the win here.

Originally posted by carver9
The Wrecker that fought the Avengers, I would give him the win here. which avengers team was this?

Originally posted by deathslash
which avengers team was this?
I think he means the New Avengers team consisting of : Cage, Spiderman, Wolverine, Spiderwoman.

Originally posted by -K-M-
I'm the guy who made the wrecking crew respect thread. Issue is wrecker is all over the map powerwise. He even has abilities he hasn't used in 20 years. At his very best he has given thor a hard time, but that was many many many years ago

Kalibak is stronger, more durable and not sure if he has his pre 52 upgrade or not..... If he does then it's a stomp

This

Here's Kalibak's upgrade I mentioned. Even without it I would give him the nod

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In the next issue he KO'ed Orion, chumped Firebird and was badly beating Firestorm till Firestorm did a point blank nuclear explosion which KO'ed him.

Thanks, KM....!

He didn't keep that upgrade though and we always use the current versions.

Originally posted by deathslash
which avengers team was this?

This.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/NewAvengers7_14.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/NewAvengers7_15-16.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/newavengers8_p16-17.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/newavengers8_p18.jpg
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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/newavengers8_p20.jpg

Thanks for the scans KM.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't keep that upgrade though and we always use the current versions.

We don't know that. Besides if we go by current version this thread is pointless as nu52 kalibak has no showings. He's only recently appeared in the dcu.

Go carver, school KM on the Wrecker!!!

Kalibak wins.

Honestly carver do you think kalibak couldn't replicate that feat? I'll give you a hint.....he could.

Originally posted by -K-M-
We don't know that. Besides if we go by current version this thread is pointless as nu52 kalibak has no showings. He's only recently appeared in the dcu.

This should be the key to all thoughts on this subject. It is too soon to really argue for Nu52 Kalibak. Too many ifs, and buts.

We're using average portrayals and pre-flashpoint Kalibak.

Originally posted by Golgo13
We're using average portrayals and pre-flashpoint Kalibak.

Average portrayals? Then definetly kalibak. Majority of his low showings are against the big dogs, while wrecker has been humbled more frequently by much lower characters.

What?

Originally posted by -K-M-
Average portrayals? Then definetly kalibak. Majority of his low showings are against the big dogs, while wrecker has been humbled more frequently by much lower characters.

Like who?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Like who?

Iron fist a few times, cage, invisible woman going melee, thing a few times, spider-man, rhino, etc.

Average portrayals of both is an obvious answer. Kalibak wins. You know this since it was already mentioned in this thread. The purpose of making threads is by making the fights competitive, not landslides. Your threads doesn't last long because they always end up in DC stomp/spites. You do extremely well when you make DC vs DC threads but you fall extremely short when you make Marvel vs DC threads because you try too hard to make the battle lean in DC favor, and yes, we can tell you are doing this. Making threads, equal threads, isn't hard to do. Hell, even though the tier thread is jacked up, you can still use that or ask a friend what tier this person is in (Marvel characters) before making a thread. We know you want DC characters to win but at least make the battle challenging.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Like who?

Like the runaways or spidey or even the punisher...

Originally posted by carver9
Average portrayals of both is an obvious answer. Kalibak wins. You know this since it was already mentioned in this thread. The purpose of making threads is by making the fights competitive, not landslides. Your threads doesn't last long because they always end up in DC stomp/spites. You do extremely well when you make DC vs DC threads but you fall extremely short when you make Marvel vs DC threads because you try too hard to make the battle lean in DC favor, and yes, we can tell you are doing this. Making threads, equal threads, isn't hard to do. Hell, even though the tier thread is jacked up, you can still use that or ask a friend what tier this person is in (Marvel characters) before making a thread. We know you want DC characters to win but at least make the battle challenging.
This is worth quoting, if only to say i've never really found Golgo to be spiteful about things.